Swinefleet
Taken from Rivers, Rectors and Abbots, David Lunn - Bishop of Sheffield, 1990...
A History of Swinefleet
The historians of villages make a clear distinction between 'closed' and 'open' villages. The 'closed' village is the Estate Village. All or nearly all the land is owned by one man; there is a uniformity in the cottages (and they may well be of a much higher quality than elsewhere); and the village is 'closed' because no-one can live there without the goodwill of 'the Squire'. The 'open' village is exactly the opposite; a multiplicity of landowners, a free-for-all in building and the chances - if there is a demand - of a lot of poorly-built small cottages and a welcome of some sort for anyone who cares to come and live there. Open villages can have a lot of people living in them and not much history. For it is the rich with their inherited estates and titles who keep documents. Sadly the poor can leave behind few traces of the lives they have lived. The History of the People of Swinefleet needs to be written by someone close to this township and also able to interpret the evidence of the records.
That George West, the author in 1884 of 'Methodism in Marshland' lived at Swinefleet and preserved in manuscript (now in Goole Library) the memories of the old people of his day, would be a help and encouragement to such a historian. For example he tells us that 'in 1745 the fishermen were one day very much alarmed by the tide rising for the third time in 24 hours the day of the earthquake at Lisbon' and that 'Hardy's Barn was fired by Hill and Atwick the year Grandmother Taylor was married. She having been married between the fire at the Barn and the Assizes at which they were tried'. That was written in 1862 about the events of 1796.
The facts we do have
The name is a disappointment: the experts tell us that 'Swein' never existed; and that pigs were no special part of this town's history. They tell us that 'swin' = 'creek, channel' and that 'fleet' in Old English means 'an inlet' and in Old Norse means 'river, stream'. It seems to be generally agreed that the Marshland 'fleets' refer to particular channels of the river.
Swinefleet started late and appears neither in Domesday or the Poll Tax lists. But by the 1300's it was certainly a flourishing place. The name comes up from time to time in the various disputes between the Abbeys about lands and tithes and notably in the 1306 agreement between Thornton and Selby about 'certain places, property and animals of the said Abbot and Convent of Thornton in the vills and estate of Swynflet and Rednesse now lying on the east side of a certain place which is called the Quay'. But it is in 1359 that we get some evidence that Swinefleet had grown into a real town for then the King (Edward III) grants to the Earl of Lincoln 'a market on thursday at his Mannor of Swynflete. And one Faire there for 4 dayes, viz. on the day after the Exaltation of the Holy Crosse and 3 dayes following.'
Soon after in 1370, the growing town gets its Church. 'The Townesmen and Inhabitants of Swynflete had liberty to erect and build on Chappell in the foresaid town of Swyneflete and to have a Chaplaine to celebrate divine service there for ever because the town of Swinflete is distant 2 miles from the Mother Church or poplar Chappell, which is scituate in the towne of Whiteguift, which way betwixt is deepe and durtie and especially in Wintertime by the vehement Inundations of water hapening more than ordinary, is so waterie and dangerous that you cannot come to the said Church or Chappell to heare service without hurtful labour and great danger.'
Church and Chapel in Swinefleet
Surprisingly Swinefleet Church doesn't appear in the 1546 Survey of Chantries. This was probably good news and proves that it was well established as a Chapel of Ease to Whitgift. Indeed around 1621 there is a reference to a 'perpetual curate' of Swinefleet and it would seem that there had been some movement towards becoming a separate parish.
The Civil War Parliamentary Commissioners - sensible as always - proposed that Swinefleet, 'with two hundred families', be made a parish but again, as always, their advice was not taken.
George West in his History of Methodism in Marshland tells us that 'previous to the grant from Queen Anne's Bounty.... the service at the Chapel of Ease at Swinfleet was once in six weeks'. Queen Anne's Bounty played an important part in building up the endowments of the various 'Chapels-of-Ease' in the Marshland area so that they could maintain a resident minister. For the accidents of history had seen the diversion of the resources that should have been used for the support of the ministry diverted to other uses. This had begun in the 12th and 13th Centuries when the tithes that should have supported the parish churches at Snaith and Adlingfleet were diverted to Selby Abbey and then at the Reformation to lay landowners. The modest financial provision eventually made for the Vicars of Adlingfleet and Snaith wasn't sufficient to be shared with those who were caring for the various Chapels of Ease. Queen Anne helped. She returned to the Church a tax on clerical incomes known as 'first-fruits and tenths'. In a complicated way this was used to purchase land with which the poorest livings were endowed. Rather oddly the livings to benefit first were chosen by lot. Swinefleet benefited on more than one occasion by Queen Anne's Bounty and so Swinefleet grew into a proper parish with a stipend (still modest) for a full-time resident Vicar. (By 1901 the stipend was £145 which certainly didn't make Swinefleet a rich living).
The first half of the 19th Century saw the population of Swinefleet double from 632 in 1801 to 1,152 in 1851. There was a new burial ground in 1858 and when the Revd. EC. Haynes was appointed Vicar in 1872 he was determined that there should be a new church and a new vicarage. He immediately sent out an appeal to all his friends seeking £2,000. 'The Church' he said, 'with little or no accommodation for the poor is an old brick building formerly used as a Chapel of Ease to Whitgift. So unsafe are the Timbers that Divine Service must shortly be held in the School Room'. The Vicarage was 'a mere dilapidated cottage'. History doesn't record how successful the Vicar's appeal was. The new church does not seem to have been completed till 1882. But the new Vicarage was built and Mr. West tells us that by 1884 the Stocks had been moved and were now 'placed at the end of the lock-up opposite the present vicarage near to the Horse Pond.'
By this time Methodism had been strongly established in Swinefleet for more than a century. 'Methodism in Marshland' makes a strong claim for Swinefleet being the first place in Marshland to have a Methodist Society. And certainly it was in October 1772 that 'the lately erected Building, commonly called the Preaching House, situate in Swinfleet, upon a piece of Ground the property of Theos Laverack, in the parish of Whitgift' was licenced 'as a place of publick Worship of Almighty God for Protestant Dissenters, commonly called Independents'.
'Methodism' had been growing in Swinefleet since at least 1764, and there is some evidence that the then Vicar of Whitgift was not unsympathetic to the new movement. Three men have the honour of bringing Methodism to Swinefleet: two farmers, Jonathan Dunn and Thephilus Laverack and a butcher, William Dealtry. On the 24th April, 1766, John Wesley made his first visit 'through heavy rain' says his Diary, 'to Swainfleet. I supposed, as the rain kept many from coming, the preaching house would contain the congregation, but it would not. However as doors and windows were open, I believe most of them could header, and the eagerness with which they heard made me hope they will not be forgetful hearers'. This was the first of a number of visits to Swinefleet and the laying of firm foundations for Wesleyan Methodism in Marshland - so close to Wesley's birthplace in Epworth.
Visitor Comments
Posted by J Robertson at 21/10/2006 06:01
I have learned that my grandmothers brother in law the Reverend William James was the vicar at Swinefleet church Goole in the year 1903. He was married to her sister Victoria Gertrude (Coates)
I am interested in geneology, and tracing my grandmothers English roots. Any information would be appreciated.
J.Robertson
Nanaimo BC.Canada
I am interested in geneology, and tracing my grandmothers English roots. Any information would be appreciated.
J.Robertson
Nanaimo BC.Canada
Posted by Dave Heyworth at 16/06/2007 19:33
We are dave, Karen, Marcus, Luke, Joel, Connor and Kian - We have recently moved into Swinefleet and live at the White House (Rose Cottage) on Church Lane. Since moving in we have heard a number of the local people call our house the 'Murder House'. Naturally we are curious (scared). Can anyone help?
Yours nervously awaiting,
Dave, Karen and the boys...
Yours nervously awaiting,
Dave, Karen and the boys...
Posted by Nigel Boatman at 28/06/2007 21:24
I understood from my uncle, Mr Ernest Pepper of Low Street, Swinefleet, that the name derived from it being a base for the maurading king, Swayne.
He also mentioned that many historical records had been collected in the late 1800's by a 'black' curate but sadly these were all destroyed in a fire at the Rectory in Old Goole.
He also mentioned that many historical records had been collected in the late 1800's by a 'black' curate but sadly these were all destroyed in a fire at the Rectory in Old Goole.
Posted by Peter Battley at 15/08/2007 20:23
For Dave Heyworth. Referance : The Murder House on Church Lane. My wife (Sadie) was born in Swinefleet. She recalls crossing over the street as a child so as not to walk past the front door of your house in the early 50's. The house got its name from the murder of a sister by her brother because she nagged him so much.He hit her with a hammer. He was sent to prison, where he died of old age. My wife thinks this occured in the late 40's.
Hope this answer query.
Peter Battley
Hope this answer query.
Peter Battley
Posted by ouuhwaite at 24/09/2007 23:54
hello i,ve justdiscovered my great great grandfather was born in swinefleet 1817 hjs name was john outhwaite who married mary jackson? they also had a son edwin who became fireman in the alum works if anyone has further info i,d be happy to hear from you thanks
Posted by Richard Potts at 22/03/2008 17:33
Re: William Dealtry
My great great grandmother called Elizabeth - maiden name Dealtry. I would have thought that she was born sometime between 1830 and 1860 (only approximate).
According to the Swinefleet chuch records, a butcher called William Dealtry was one of the men responsible for bringing Methodism to the town. Does anybody know or can anybody put me in the right direction as I would like to know if Elizabeth Dealtry was any relation to the William Dealtry.
I have also found details on the 1871 Workhouse register details of a agricultural labourer called William Daltry. This is how Dealtry was pronounced and I wonder if this is also a relation and that Daltry was a mis-spelling of the name Dealtry.
I would be really grateful if you could e-mail me with any details on rick.potts@tiscali.co.uk.
Many thanks
Richard Potts
My great great grandmother called Elizabeth - maiden name Dealtry. I would have thought that she was born sometime between 1830 and 1860 (only approximate).
According to the Swinefleet chuch records, a butcher called William Dealtry was one of the men responsible for bringing Methodism to the town. Does anybody know or can anybody put me in the right direction as I would like to know if Elizabeth Dealtry was any relation to the William Dealtry.
I have also found details on the 1871 Workhouse register details of a agricultural labourer called William Daltry. This is how Dealtry was pronounced and I wonder if this is also a relation and that Daltry was a mis-spelling of the name Dealtry.
I would be really grateful if you could e-mail me with any details on rick.potts@tiscali.co.uk.
Many thanks
Richard Potts
Posted by Ceri Matthews at 17/08/2008 01:33
My Grandfather, THOMAS JAMES, had an elder brother, WILLIAM JAMES who was said to be the vicar at Swinefleet. He qualified at St.Bees College, Cumbria in 1881 and gained a 2nd.class in the Preliminary Examination of Candidates for Holy Orders. I have a short letter addressed to my grandfather from the vicarage.
Thomas and William also had another brother, SHEM JAMES, who travelled to Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, BC, but unfortunately he died in Wellington BC. He was one of Nanaimo's Pioneers.
Thomas and William also had another brother, SHEM JAMES, who travelled to Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, BC, but unfortunately he died in Wellington BC. He was one of Nanaimo's Pioneers.
Posted by Ceri Matthews at 17/08/2008 18:57
Re: Rev.WILLIAM JAMES, Swinefleet, 1903.
How do I contact J. Robertson, Nanaimo BC, Canada ?
Posted query on 21/10/2006.
If anyone can provide ANY details on the Rev. WILLIAM JAMES, where was the vicarage? How long did he serve the community etc, I would be glad to hear from them - Thank you - Ceri.
How do I contact J. Robertson, Nanaimo BC, Canada ?
Posted query on 21/10/2006.
If anyone can provide ANY details on the Rev. WILLIAM JAMES, where was the vicarage? How long did he serve the community etc, I would be glad to hear from them - Thank you - Ceri.
Posted by B. Campbell at 09/09/2008 19:57
To Peter Battley, I too was a resident, as a child until the age of twenty. I can confirm his information re "the murder house" is quite correct. The murder occurred in the early fifties. The house adopted this name from then onwards.
Posted by elizabeth simpson nee cowling at 15/09/2008 14:42
am tracing the cowling family tree and have discovered my father, grandfather, great grandfather and great great grandfather all lived in swinefleet the earliest 2 being farmers John and William my fathers name was Percy grateful for any info
Posted by Polo at 21/04/2009 19:35
Re Elizabeth Simpson
Hi, loads of Cowling families around Swinefleet, mainly farming related.
Try John Cowling, Common Farm, Swinefleet Common who will be pleased to help if he can. Bye hope it helps.
Hi, loads of Cowling families around Swinefleet, mainly farming related.
Try John Cowling, Common Farm, Swinefleet Common who will be pleased to help if he can. Bye hope it helps.
Posted by malcolm edward mcgowan at 28/06/2009 18:54
my father George edward mcgowan was born in swinefleet in 1907 and lived at SISC Square, swinefleet. is there anyone who can help me in my trace for my father's family tree. His family was said to have come from ireland in the 1800s. thanks for any help.
Posted by Polo at 29/06/2009 15:03
Re Sisc Square Swinefleet
Could you mean Fisk Square ?
Could you mean Fisk Square ?
Posted by Patricia Jones nee Scutt at 05/08/2009 19:48
My g.g.g.grandfather William Scutt was born in Swinefleet in Solhearns cottage 1788 and later lived at Solhearns farm until his death in 1863. Does anyone know where these places were because I do not think they exist now unless the farm has changed its name.
Posted by John Morley at 15/08/2009 12:44
In my late fathers possessions I have discovered an envelope bearing the seal of the INCORPORATED CHURCH BUILDING SOCIETY addressed to The Reverend JWS de Cobam or De Coham
Swinefleet Vicarage Goole. Bears penny purple stamp and stamped on the rear 5.30am JY23 98, so it relates to July 1898
(old fashioned S which looks like a modern 7 crossed through)
Is this name known to anyone?
Swinefleet Vicarage Goole. Bears penny purple stamp and stamped on the rear 5.30am JY23 98, so it relates to July 1898
(old fashioned S which looks like a modern 7 crossed through)
Is this name known to anyone?
Posted by Patricia Jones at 18/09/2009 14:17
I have just found a note in the transcription of parish records available from the Doncaster and District family history society that states in 1897 John William Fletcher DeCobain was the vicar.His children are listed as : Gwynneth,Eric Edward St.Lawrence, and Dorothy Isabel Spofforth.His wifes name was Dora Georgiana.The eldest child was Eric and he was born in 1887 when is father was already Clergyman and vicar.
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 21/09/2009 11:33
Can anyone provide background on Thomas Hill, a builder pre 1900?
One of his apprentices built housing in Goole early 20th century.
One of his apprentices built housing in Goole early 20th century.
Posted by Patricia Jones at 23/09/2009 19:29
Do you think that would be Thomas Hill son of William and Elizabeth baptised 26 May 1855 at St Margarets,Swinefleet.He had several siblings and his father was a labourer
Posted by Patricia Jones at 25/09/2009 19:49
William James .,clerk in holy orders ,married to Victoria Gertrude.children :William Lloyd born 27 Oct 1903 baptised 30 Dec. Ifor Darcy born 24 Nov 1905 baptised 22 Feb 1906.
William and Victoria are not mentioned in the 1901 census, Hope this is useful Ceri
William and Victoria are not mentioned in the 1901 census, Hope this is useful Ceri
Posted by Bob Packwood at 11/10/2009 17:52
Pleased to hear from anyone knowing anything of my ancestors with surnames of: Duckles, Hope, Furniss, Brigham from around this area.
Posted by Patricia Jones at 25/10/2009 19:28
Bob ,I have some parish records for Swinefleet and Whitgift in which several Duckles are mentioned but no Hopes .If you could contact me I will give you what records I have.
Posted by Barrie P Spink at 24/11/2009 23:06
To Shuffleton Streets,
Hi There
I posted some information on the Railway part of the site as you had been enquiring about Oakhill Junction and my friend was the signal man at that box till it closed.
As a matter of interest my father spent many years in a "old peoples home" in Swinefleet but the name escapes me for the moment.
Kind regards
Barrie P Spink
Hi There
I posted some information on the Railway part of the site as you had been enquiring about Oakhill Junction and my friend was the signal man at that box till it closed.
As a matter of interest my father spent many years in a "old peoples home" in Swinefleet but the name escapes me for the moment.
Kind regards
Barrie P Spink
Posted by Wilf Brown at 25/11/2009 10:00
For Bob Packwood. I was brought up in Swinefleet being born 1932. I remember there was a Billy Hope lived in the village I would think he would be born in the early 1900s. He was well known as a collecter of wild mushrooms cycling all round the area. I can't remember exactly where he lived or worked. Regards to all. Wilf.
Posted by DEBRA CORBETT at 25/01/2010 09:27
We have recently purchased 'The Park' Reedness Road, Swinefleet. Does anybody know any of the early history of the property, we believe it was built approx 1760.
thank you
thank you
Posted by Ceri Matthews at 05/04/2010 23:20
Thank you Patricia (Jones) for your information re REV. WILLIAM JAMES and his family. I believe he was vicar at SWINEFLEET in 1903+-. I wonder if SWINEFLEET was his last 'calling'? Could he be buried there? Can anyone confirm this?
I am pleased to say that I met the ROBINSON's in Victoria BC, where coinsidentaly SHEM JAMES, WILLIAM's brother is buried in nearby NANAIMO BC. (see above)
I am greatful to them for saying a prayer at his graveside.
Sorry Patricia for not replying sooner - Ceri Matthews
I am pleased to say that I met the ROBINSON's in Victoria BC, where coinsidentaly SHEM JAMES, WILLIAM's brother is buried in nearby NANAIMO BC. (see above)
I am greatful to them for saying a prayer at his graveside.
Sorry Patricia for not replying sooner - Ceri Matthews
Posted by Melanie Chase (Nee Fisk) at 15/04/2010 13:48
In reference to Polo's comment 2009.
Yes it was Fisk Square, it was owned by our family who lived in Swinefleet. As far back as my Father can remember My Great Great Grandad David Daniel Fisk owned Fisk Square and he was a dentist who lived in the square as well. Previous to that there must have been other Fisk's but my Father can not recall their names.
My Great Grandad John George Fisk, aslo lived in Swinefleet and set up Fisk & Sons painting and decorating firm established in 1840. This was passed down to my Grandad Herbert William Fisk but later liquidated in the sixties.
If anyone can help me with the Fisk's before David Daniel Fisk, I would be very greatful.
Thank you!
Yes it was Fisk Square, it was owned by our family who lived in Swinefleet. As far back as my Father can remember My Great Great Grandad David Daniel Fisk owned Fisk Square and he was a dentist who lived in the square as well. Previous to that there must have been other Fisk's but my Father can not recall their names.
My Great Grandad John George Fisk, aslo lived in Swinefleet and set up Fisk & Sons painting and decorating firm established in 1840. This was passed down to my Grandad Herbert William Fisk but later liquidated in the sixties.
If anyone can help me with the Fisk's before David Daniel Fisk, I would be very greatful.
Thank you!
Posted by Patricia Jones at 27/04/2010 19:56
For Ceri Matthews
I have found this memorial inscription for plot 298 St Margarets cemetery. In loving memory of the Rev William James vicar of Swinefleet died Dec 7th 1906 aged 54 years.Bound in the bundle of life with the Lord my God 1 Sma xxv 29.And of Victoria Gertrude his wife who died Feby 22nd 1940 aged 74
I have found this memorial inscription for plot 298 St Margarets cemetery. In loving memory of the Rev William James vicar of Swinefleet died Dec 7th 1906 aged 54 years.Bound in the bundle of life with the Lord my God 1 Sma xxv 29.And of Victoria Gertrude his wife who died Feby 22nd 1940 aged 74
Posted by Patricia Jones at 28/04/2010 11:32
For Melanie Chase
David Daniel Fisk is listed in parish records as a painter and had several children Hannah Mary 4Apr 1867,Elizabeth 22 Sep 1869 Ada 21Mar1875, Dennis 18 Feb 1877, John George 14 Aug 1881.David Daniel was born in Hull ,and his father David was born in Lexfield Suffolk.His mother was born in Knottingley and the other children Thomas 1832 Yarmouth,Mary 1836 Yarmouth,George 1845 South Cave, Rebecca 1846 Swinefleet.
Where full dates are given they are baptismal dates.
David Daniel Fisk is listed in parish records as a painter and had several children Hannah Mary 4Apr 1867,Elizabeth 22 Sep 1869 Ada 21Mar1875, Dennis 18 Feb 1877, John George 14 Aug 1881.David Daniel was born in Hull ,and his father David was born in Lexfield Suffolk.His mother was born in Knottingley and the other children Thomas 1832 Yarmouth,Mary 1836 Yarmouth,George 1845 South Cave, Rebecca 1846 Swinefleet.
Where full dates are given they are baptismal dates.
Posted by Patricia Taylor at 09/07/2010 14:34
Dear Ceri (Mathews)
If you are interested the church at swinefleet are having a patronal weekend on the 17/18 July 2010.
The church is open from 12-4pm on the 17th with a concert at 7pm.
If you care to come along and make yourself known to me (churchwarden) i may be able to supply you with more information regarding Reverend James.
Wishing you well and hope to meet you soon
Pat
If you are interested the church at swinefleet are having a patronal weekend on the 17/18 July 2010.
The church is open from 12-4pm on the 17th with a concert at 7pm.
If you care to come along and make yourself known to me (churchwarden) i may be able to supply you with more information regarding Reverend James.
Wishing you well and hope to meet you soon
Pat
Posted by David Hardcastle at 12/07/2010 20:31
Would be interested if anyone has any recollections of my grandfather (Michael O'Donnell/O'Donald) and family who moved from County Mayo in Ireland around 1863/64 and lived in Swinfleet until the mid 1880's. They lived in Moors Cottages and he died in 1878 from sunstroke, I believe. Would also like to know if Moors Cottages are still standing.
Posted by Patricia Jones at 26/07/2010 11:41
I came to Swinefleet a couple of years ago hoping to photograph the grave stones of my ancestors.I know they are their and I know the plot numbers but the churchyard was so overgrown I was unable to find them.
Posted by Ceri Matthews at 02/08/2010 00:55
To Patrica Jones and Patricia Taylor.
It is only today, 2nd.August, 2010, that I have picked up the postings from you both. I wish to thank you both.
It is sad that the Rev James died at 54 years, so it seems he had not been vicar at Swinefleet for too many years. Up to the age of about 20 years he had been a coal miner in South Wales, then graduating at St.Bees college in 1881. I do not know when he arrived at Swinefleet.
I would have loved to have visited the Church at Swinefleet but I have missed the date of the 'patronal weekend'. It is also a long way from Swansea (Mynydd Buchan), the early home of the JAMES family.
I have found a small 'snapshot' of the Rev.William JAMES, sitting with full suit and waistcoat - as they dressed then - on the seashore sands of Swansea Bay, with his wife, Victoria Getrude JAMES and a young boy in a cap.
THANK YOU both again. CERI
It is only today, 2nd.August, 2010, that I have picked up the postings from you both. I wish to thank you both.
It is sad that the Rev James died at 54 years, so it seems he had not been vicar at Swinefleet for too many years. Up to the age of about 20 years he had been a coal miner in South Wales, then graduating at St.Bees college in 1881. I do not know when he arrived at Swinefleet.
I would have loved to have visited the Church at Swinefleet but I have missed the date of the 'patronal weekend'. It is also a long way from Swansea (Mynydd Buchan), the early home of the JAMES family.
I have found a small 'snapshot' of the Rev.William JAMES, sitting with full suit and waistcoat - as they dressed then - on the seashore sands of Swansea Bay, with his wife, Victoria Getrude JAMES and a young boy in a cap.
THANK YOU both again. CERI
Posted by technobrit at 27/08/2010 13:46
For David Hardcastle
It looks like they lived at Common Piece - I found the widow at 1881 Census. My ancestors the Finns also from Co. Mayo also lived at Common Piece, so perhaps they knew one another...
Phjoto of cottage at Common piece avl by a web search on "Geograph"
Brgds tb
It looks like they lived at Common Piece - I found the widow at 1881 Census. My ancestors the Finns also from Co. Mayo also lived at Common Piece, so perhaps they knew one another...
Phjoto of cottage at Common piece avl by a web search on "Geograph"
Brgds tb
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