The Railway
Rise of the Railways
In the early days, Goole did not want a railway as this would have meant competition to the canal. However, to stop railway traffic going to Hull, the Company Directors decided not to oppose a railway to Goole, but to plan it so it helped the town. In the 1830's there were eleven proposals for railways to the town, this was reduced to six and finally the Wakefield, Pontefract & Goole Railway Co. was chosen as the successful line. Railway Dock was built to accommodate the new line and both opened in 1848 by which time the WP&GR had been taken over by the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway.
The 'Lanky' has its origins in 1825, the year when the Stockton & Darlington Railway opened, with the forming of the Leeds & Manchester and Liverpool & Manchester railways. The M&LR had to cut across the Pennines and followed the traditional transport route between the old West Riding and Manchester following a twisting, winding course through two deep valleys cut at the end of the ice-age. After a lot of arguing with the Rochdale Canal Company, the construction finally got Royal Assent in 1836. Constructing the M&LR was hard with thousands of navvies building the tunnels, bridges, viaducts and embankments. The line was finally opened in 1841 and became the North's most important means of communication.
Victoria Station in Manchester was the impressive main station on the L&YR network. Despite years of grime, neglect and a Luftwaffe attack during WWII, it has a magnificent air of dignity and has two items of interest to Goolies. There is a huge mural still inside the station showing how powerful the L&YR had become at its peak. By the late 19th Century, it served every major town in the industrial north, or it had links to other towns with other railways. The mural shows the importance of Goole to its operations (look at the size of its circle and shipping destinations compared with Hull)
Outside the station, is a list of the major destinations served by the company. Goole is shown rated above London and only below Ireland and Scotland in importance.
The Humber Ports competed with each other to export coal and this led to races from rival train companies to reach the sea. The Selby & Hull Railway opened in 1840. This became part of the York & North Midland Railway in 1845, and part of the North Eastern Railway in 1854. By the end of the railway building rush in the 1860's, the ports of Goole, Hull and Grimsby had their own railway networks. The L&YR catered for collieries between Leeds and Barnsley sending coal to Goole. The NER handled coal north of the River Aire for Hull. The Manchester, Sheffield & Lincolnshire Railway handled coal south of Barnsley for Grimsby.
The NER came to Goole in the 1860's to link Gilberdyke to the South Yorkshire Railway at Thorne. This created a new railway station on Boothferry Road which is still used today. The Hull & Barnsley Railway opened in the 1880's to provide a link from the Barnsley coalfields to Hull. A link was established between the H&BR and the L&YR at Hensall, allowing the L&YR to promote a Liverpool to Hull service. In 1910 the NER built a line from Selby to Goole.
The Axholme Joint Railway was originally promoted by two companies, the Goole & Marshland Light Railway and the Isle of Axholme Light Railway. The L&YR and NER took over the project and completed it in 1909 to link Goole to the Trent valley. Regular passenger services were operated on the 27 mile system until 1933. Freight services continued afterwards with the last section retained until the early 1970's
Heyday of the Railways
The original L&YR station was built alongside Railway Dock and had two 100ft platforms adjacent to St John's Street. In 1881-82, the docks were expanded and the L&YR station closed down with all passenger trains using the NER station in Boothferry Road. They also built a large Goods Office across from Stanhope Dock. When the Selby to Goole Line opened, a spur was built between Rawcliffe Bridge Junction and Oakhill Junction for all passenger traffic. The line between Rawcliffe Bridge Junction and West Junction was always very busy with freight traffic to the docks. The branch lines led to a high-level coal drop and other parts of the docks.
Railway freight always played an important part of the development of Goole. As well as the coal traffic, general goods were loaded onto ships and the L&YR took over the Goole Steam Shipping Company in 1905 to aid this growth. Up to 20 years ago most goods were loose and handled in the open air by a large number of men. Today everything is stored in containers or on pallets. A container service was first introduced by British Railways in the 1950's on their service between Goole and Copenhagen. Goole also had a Renault car terminal which transported cars by rail until the late 1980's
Decline of the Railways
Railway traffic was always busy up to the war years, but in the 1950's traditional freight began to fall away. The Beeching Cuts of the 1960's saw the closure of all lines around Goole except for the lines between Doncaster & Hull and Knottingley to Goole. The Wakefield to Goole passenger trains were withdrawn in 1967 and a Leeds-Castleford-Knottingley-Goole service introduced. The flat Yorkshire countryside saw the construction of huge coal-fired power stations at Ferrybridge, Eggborough and Drax, this led to the re-opening of part of the H&BR line.
Visitor Comments
Posted by Geoff Depledge at 23/03/2006 19:22
My mum (nee Storr) tells me her granddad on her Mums side (Smith) drove the first passenger train to leave from Goole station. Can anyone confirm or add to this
Posted by pedro at 29/03/2006 22:30
some one told me about a Ken Hoole from doncaster who researched over 170 years of local railway history maybe he has a website
Posted by Richard Wood at 21/05/2006 08:50
In 1950s I attended Alexaner St Primary. Some days I used to cut through Goole station go onto Hull bound platform, through the shute into adjoining coal yard and out onto main road. It cut nothing off the walk home but it was exciting
Posted by MIKE PEEL at 08/06/2006 15:19
Re the person asking about Ken Hoole from Doncaster having a website - he died some years ago but the North Eastern Railway Association have a collection of his books, paperwork, etc. in Darlington Railway Museum - suggest Pedro looks at the NERA website.
Posted by pat lazzerini at 05/07/2006 18:52
Can anyone please help with research into John Arthur Parker Toulson of Skipwith, railway director in mid 1800s??
Many thanks
Many thanks
Posted by Danny@OutsideGoole at 16/10/2006 21:03
Does any one know of any body who worked for the LNER or LYR? Is there a web page prehaps?
Thanks
Thanks
Posted by Michael Piper at 07/11/2006 09:14
I am researching the Glassby family history and I am trying to locate a photograph of Richard Glassby (1842-1897) who was Station Master at Crowle between 1871 and 1891 when he retired. He had 4 children (Victoria Mary Elizabeth Glassby b. 1868, William Gladstone Glassby b. 1870, Percy Livingstone Glassby b. 1873 and Robert Wilberforce Glassby b. 1876) and I would be interested to hear from their present day descendents
Posted by Elaine Jones at 10/11/2006 00:10
Jones (who is into railways) on seeing the bottom postcard, produced The Observer's Book of Railways (1958) which describes the engine as a Lancashire and Yorkshire railway "B7" Class 0-4-0Saddle Tank, introduced 1891 and designed by J.a.f. Aspinall for dock shunting duties.
Goes on to state "Several are stationed at Bank Hall and may be seen along the waterfront in the Liverpool dock area. Others are to be found at such widely scattered places as Goole and Bristol."
Also, the loco in the post card above is the same type.
Goes on to state "Several are stationed at Bank Hall and may be seen along the waterfront in the Liverpool dock area. Others are to be found at such widely scattered places as Goole and Bristol."
Also, the loco in the post card above is the same type.
Posted by tom pudding at 30/01/2007 11:34
goole rocks
Posted by Goole Library at 17/03/2007 15:36
You may be interested to know that Goole library is hosting a free "Goole Railway" event, entitled "chatter, chatter, choo, choo" on Wednesday 21st March, 2007. It's a chance for all train enthusiasts and anybody interested in Goole's railway history to come along and chat, compare memories, share your photographs and information and re-live Goole's glorious railway past. The event starts at 7.30pm and there will be free refreshments - though not in a buffet car! All welcome.
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 04/05/2007 19:43
Who can give me more info on Oak Hill Junction?
I am interested in the "social" history as much as the "local".
I am interested in the "social" history as much as the "local".
Posted by pedro at 12/05/2007 09:56
Oakhill Junction in the 1940s my late brother was signalman here I used to spend school holidays with him at work in signalbox. We would cycle down the track side from bridge St past the railway sheds to reach oakhill.The railway wagons with coal and other goods would be diverted from here directly to goole docks finally crossing bridge St to access the docks.
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 16/05/2007 16:17
Pedro, thanks for your long memory - and your family links to all things Goole!
Do you remember whether the Oakhill Junction was near the former Oaks Hill Farm (in Airmyn parish - on Percy Estate landholding), or had the farm and buildings been demolished when the Signal Box etc. was built and the Selby line laid c.1912?
Do you remember whether the Oakhill Junction was near the former Oaks Hill Farm (in Airmyn parish - on Percy Estate landholding), or had the farm and buildings been demolished when the Signal Box etc. was built and the Selby line laid c.1912?
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 16/05/2007 16:21
Looking again at your route to the signal box, I wonder if it was Potter Grange junction that you remember, Pedro?
I knowthat diverted dock wagons but would have thought Oakhill too far distant, being the connection from Selby that ran on the NE line, I believe. See the article on this page of the web for a diagram showing these junction boxes.
I knowthat diverted dock wagons but would have thought Oakhill too far distant, being the connection from Selby that ran on the NE line, I believe. See the article on this page of the web for a diagram showing these junction boxes.
Posted by pedro at 17/05/2007 17:31
It was deffinately Oakhill signal box my bro was in. The only communication between boxes was telephone (no outside phone)Just a line between signal boxes the type where you lift off the ear piece and turn the handle.I remember how amused I was when a call came in my bro would answer with AYE OAKHILL. then commence to pull the levers putting the train on the right track.My attempt with these levers was a dismal failure (didnt have the strength).Also remember thick smoggy nights he would have to walk up the line putting explosive devices on the track when the train passed over one it would then stop directly outside the signal box before proceeding.
Posted by pedro at 17/05/2007 17:40
I hasten to add none of these trains were passengers but solely goods wagons to goole docks. Sadly my bro passed away last year another case of (if I had only asked)
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 18/05/2007 08:55
Thanks for confirmation, Pedro. I know the phones you mean, they were used in the first office I worked at c. 1955. As for Oakhill, found a site with photos at http://www.goole-steam.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 that is particularly interesting about the engine sheds, and how they backed on to the Haunted Orchard. Enquired whether this may have been part of the old farmstead I am researching. Do you have any views on the siting of the Junction Box at OH and the area generally with the engine sheds?
Posted by pedro at 18/05/2007 14:47
Memory fading my recollection in the 40s we would enter bridge st from stanhope st a set of gates here where the traffic lights are now situated gates used to close bridge st road traffic and enable goods trains access across to railway dock.the signal box here operating the gates.This is where we got on the track side with our bikes cycled past the railway sheds crossing the lines various times.We then had a straight run approaching Oak Hill signal box on our left (methinks).Oakhill Box was a two story building downstairs somesort of tool store and coal store.Up a wooden staircase to enter the work area heating was a coal burning stove.My brother previously walked to work here until our elder brother returned from the war in the pacific and bought him his first bike.
Posted by pedro at 18/05/2007 14:59
Viewed the photos with interest especially the one replacing the station crossing gates in the 50s.Wondered if this was because of the accident when the gates were open to traffic and a train crashed through killing a police cyclist PC Turner I believe.Also crashed into a road roller towing a tar boiler driver Mr Krebs escaped unhurt unlike the policeman.Or was this earlier time?I witnessed this accident
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 04/06/2007 17:49
Thanks Pedro, I recall those Stanhope Street/Bridge St. junction rail crossing and gates, also a footbridge over the line. Have been researching folks who lived at Oaks Hill Farm, the various cottages described as "Canal Cottages" (2 of these), "Canal Bridge Houses" (2), "5 Swing Bridge - Canal-side", "Orchard House", "Rose Cottage - Dutch River Side", "5 Old Bridge House", and "Earl Beverley's Sidings".
Another useful site, but you do need to peer closely, is www.old-maps.co.uk. If you click on Airmyn, and then laboriously move south by south-west and south-east, you can see the engine sheds, oakhill, etc. in relation to Dutch River and to the Canal.
Another useful site, but you do need to peer closely, is www.old-maps.co.uk. If you click on Airmyn, and then laboriously move south by south-west and south-east, you can see the engine sheds, oakhill, etc. in relation to Dutch River and to the Canal.
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 10/06/2007 10:16
Took opportunity to visit Oakhill with the Friends Group on their pond-dipping activity - was given a guided tour by Jamie, finding site of the engine sheds, the "junction" and Lord Beverley's Siding. At this time of year vegetation hides much, but it was a really interesting experience to be down there among the glades and woodland and water. Shall return later in the year, but for now I have had at least this reccie, and can return to the maps and Goole Steam photographs with a better idea of this area. Have been put in touch with a Goole Steam contact and hope more details will emerge in time of life down there as it used to be. The one solid point of reference is the Old Drain that marks the boundary of the industrial site. Otherwise a lot of paths and tracks can disorientate the casual visitor. Problems with off-road bikers (without permits) and the potential loss of New Potter Grange farmstead is on the cards if Tesco has its way.
So much more history to be bulldozed.
So much more history to be bulldozed.
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 10/06/2007 10:19
Should have given website info for above - see www.Oakhillnature.org for a developing site committed to Goole's natural history.
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 16/06/2007 09:09
Some detail to flesh out the Canal Cottages in 1901 - No. 5 Bridge House was home to Thomas Stones and his wife and 4 children. TS born Rawcliffe and was a labourer working on the Canal at this time.
No. 6 Bridge House occupied by Fred Roughton by then 60 years of age and Foreman Repairs on Canal. His wife and an adult son who was a Hydraulic Crane Driver, and a daughter aged 11. This family had birthplaces across the country - indicating that they had travelled with their industrial experience as jobs demanded.
Dutch Riverside (north bank) had three cottages - occupied by Oxendale, Ward and Gibson households. First two were platelayers on the railway.
Does this information strike anyone about their roots?
No. 6 Bridge House occupied by Fred Roughton by then 60 years of age and Foreman Repairs on Canal. His wife and an adult son who was a Hydraulic Crane Driver, and a daughter aged 11. This family had birthplaces across the country - indicating that they had travelled with their industrial experience as jobs demanded.
Dutch Riverside (north bank) had three cottages - occupied by Oxendale, Ward and Gibson households. First two were platelayers on the railway.
Does this information strike anyone about their roots?
Posted by Goole Steam at 16/06/2007 19:34
Just been reading with interest Suffelton and Pedros comments re engine shed and oak hill sites. As you say the best ref point above the old sheds site is the drain adjacent to what was Beverley Sidings, as youngsters we used to play under the bridge here, there is a walkway under the bridge and swallows and housemartins used to nest there, the water was pristine with sticklebacks, newts and the like. I went back there after 40 odd years whilst researching for my web site www.goole-steam.com and it was very depressing, full of burned out moterbikes, bits of car and the like. It is hard to imagine now what the place looked like in the 1950s and 60s, it was a real rural location, not like now with industry encroaching to the very door. I hope the area can be preserved but I doubt it, the glass factory and huge Tesco building have seen to that. Progress at any price?
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 19/06/2007 07:58
Really interested in memories of Oakhill as recounted by Goole Steam. The proximity of those looming giants called G. Glass and The T Shed is a visual intrusion, but I was surprised how easy it was to escape them - once you pass by. But I can understand how the place has been ruined, when you have memories of that undisturbed wildness, you always see surroundings as they were in unspoiled days. It's the same with all the old paths, down the cattle arch for instance, dykes culverted, houses built and now that spare land grubbed up and developed, houses in every direction and some folks want to put in a tarmaced path for dog walkers. There's nowhere left to adventure!
Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 19/06/2007 08:59
Maybe this link to a superb piece in the G2 yesterday, written by Tristram Hunt ( a historian, I think), will stir folks to see that what he says could be re-considered in the light of our own mud and marshes, waterways and "gateway" - that there needs to be variety, not blandness, and that it is individuals that make a place, not big developments.
See, and read, at http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/heritage/story/0,,2105571,00.html
See, and read, at http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/heritage/story/0,,2105571,00.html
Posted by Eric Rawcliffe at 01/07/2007 22:50
Both of the bottom two postcards show Lanky 'Pugs' as the dock shunters were nicknamed. Two of these have been preserved by the Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway Trust (see www.lyrtust.org.uk). The one numbered 51218 has visited Goole Docks and worked in steam there in March 2003 - it is currently out of tiket, in the queue awaiting overhaul. If anyone has other pictures and is prepared to let us display them on our site, please let us know.
Incidentally, does anyone know why the Goole steamer Rawcliffe was so named (it wasn't after me!)?
Incidentally, does anyone know why the Goole steamer Rawcliffe was so named (it wasn't after me!)?
Posted by pedro at 06/07/2007 18:28
Try ships page Re ship Rawcliffe can only suggest its named after the village I/E same as Blacktoft etc.
Posted by phil at 05/09/2007 21:40
and ousefleet-swinefleet -faxfleet etc
Posted by Mark Crawley at 21/11/2007 13:07
I too,have seen with interest,the photo's of the level crossing gates at Goole station.One of the accident involing a locomotive and the one showing maintainance work replacing track etc.and wondered the same as Pedro.
Having looked long and hard,have come to the conclusion the maintainance one is later as on the "accident" scene,the roof over the stairs down to the underpass on the right of the pic is there,but in the maintainance one,the roof over the right-hand stairs is no longer there.Unless of course they were removed at the same time!!
Had many a happy time C1962 hanging around the station and saddend to see how most of it has gone.Sic Transit gloria Mundie!
MC
Having looked long and hard,have come to the conclusion the maintainance one is later as on the "accident" scene,the roof over the stairs down to the underpass on the right of the pic is there,but in the maintainance one,the roof over the right-hand stairs is no longer there.Unless of course they were removed at the same time!!
Had many a happy time C1962 hanging around the station and saddend to see how most of it has gone.Sic Transit gloria Mundie!
MC
Posted by john storey at 22/02/2008 09:23
Re: Lanky 'Pugs' message from Eric Rawcliffe 01/07/2007
I have a photo of loco number 1153 - if you would like a copy - let me know.
I have a photo of loco number 1153 - if you would like a copy - let me know.
Posted by zoglodyte at 16/04/2008 22:46
re: Posted by Danny@OutsideGoole at 16/10/2006 21:03
Does any one know of any body who worked for the LNER or LYR? Is there a web page prehaps.
I know its a long while posted but a man i know worked on the railways round here. He was a "lanky" fired on the left.
Does any one know of any body who worked for the LNER or LYR? Is there a web page prehaps.
I know its a long while posted but a man i know worked on the railways round here. He was a "lanky" fired on the left.
Posted by Robert Ward at 17/04/2008 16:57
zoglodyte - look at Goole Steam http://www.goole-steam.com/
Posted by Eric Rawcliffe at 20/04/2008 17:11
Re message from John Storey about pic of L&Y Pug - copy of pic would be much appreciated, along with permission to reproduce it on our website. Please send to the webmaster via www.lyrtrust.org.uk or direct to me at ericrawcliffe@fsmail.net
Many thanks, Eric
Many thanks, Eric
Posted by Eric Rawcliffe at 23/04/2008 20:16
Thanks to John Storey for image of the very first Aspinall Pug. This will appear on the L&Y Trust's website at www.lyrtrust.org.uk
Posted by corby bunting at 27/08/2008 12:59
I am trying to find information about NEGO HOUSE Rawcliffe. In the 1901 census my wifes G Grandfather Ralph Morris and his family lived there. Ralph was Nego Firelighter foreman. His sons Walter and Henry were Railway engine cleaners. Sons, John, Albert and Arthur were firelighter makers.The rest of the family were Mother Sarah (nee Wood) also Lilian and Rose.My question is ,were and what was Nego House?
Posted by Ed Pollard at 14/02/2009 17:24
Anyone know what happened to the Goole steam site
Posted by Goole Steam at 21/03/2009 17:28
Re Goole Steam, never fear it will be back, I am retiring in a couple of months so will have more time to dedicate to it, I have literaly hundreds of pics to put on the new site and will post here to let you all know when it is back on the net. Many thanks to you all who are continuing to send me photos and stories. I will get around to putting them on. Thanks, Dennis Goole-Steam.com
Posted by Barrie P Spink at 05/04/2009 21:31
Oakhill Junction.
In 1951 I had become a Railway and a Radio enthusiast. I became friendly with the signal man at Oakhill Junction and his name was Frank Fairclough. He had been at the box since he came out of the services which I believe was around 1947 and I think that he would be about 25 years of age when I knew him. He was engaged to a young lady from Forge Valley near to Scarborough and around 1953 he actually married the lady and took up residence in Goole.
Oakhill Junction box was located on the passenger line which ran from Rawcliffe Bridge Junction to join the North Eastern railway at Boothrferry road Signal box. The Selby branch joined this route at Oakhill Junction and the signal box was a Lancashire and Yorkshire box.We used to use the LMS bell code for all our signaling communications and Boothferry Road (a North Eastern box)had the inconvenience of using both bell codes.
I spent many happy hours down at the box as an unofficial guest of Frank and living at the Woodland Avenue (North) end of Goole used to cycle down the farm road to the signal box after school but on returning later in the evening I would follow Frank on his bike and we would cycle down the side of the track to the Dunhill Road area where we join the road. Occasionally we would go across the tip next to signal box and pass canal cottages coming out in bridge street near to the docks
In 1951 I had become a Railway and a Radio enthusiast. I became friendly with the signal man at Oakhill Junction and his name was Frank Fairclough. He had been at the box since he came out of the services which I believe was around 1947 and I think that he would be about 25 years of age when I knew him. He was engaged to a young lady from Forge Valley near to Scarborough and around 1953 he actually married the lady and took up residence in Goole.
Oakhill Junction box was located on the passenger line which ran from Rawcliffe Bridge Junction to join the North Eastern railway at Boothrferry road Signal box. The Selby branch joined this route at Oakhill Junction and the signal box was a Lancashire and Yorkshire box.We used to use the LMS bell code for all our signaling communications and Boothferry Road (a North Eastern box)had the inconvenience of using both bell codes.
I spent many happy hours down at the box as an unofficial guest of Frank and living at the Woodland Avenue (North) end of Goole used to cycle down the farm road to the signal box after school but on returning later in the evening I would follow Frank on his bike and we would cycle down the side of the track to the Dunhill Road area where we join the road. Occasionally we would go across the tip next to signal box and pass canal cottages coming out in bridge street near to the docks
Posted by Chris Ingleby at 17/06/2009 22:36
Interesting site, I was born in Goole 1950, and still use this fact as a claim to fame even now. I have an uncle, Gerald Tighe who lived in one of the cottages on the Dutch River where the railway crosses over. I remember visiting in the late 1950s and been surprised how basic they were. Also a friend of my maternal grandmother, Ivy Rowley, was a shunter driver, probably a pug, he would give me and my gran a ride on the docks lines in the 50s , his name was Freeman Orange, happy days. Why do you have a need to talk to all these characters when they are long gone! cheers to all goolies
Posted by Wilf Brown at 18/06/2009 00:01
Hi Chris I knew your dad Ken, we worked at Goole shipyard at the same time and also later at Brough. Regards.
Posted by Chris Ingleby at 18/06/2009 10:40
Hi,Wilf,wonderful to hear from someone with a connection to the Ingleby s .Ken died 1998,he had long term kidney problems.I hope you had good memories of him cos I think he upset a few people along his way.I am his eldest son(59).Please write me with any stories you have.Regards,Chris
Posted by Phil Ward at 25/06/2009 17:43
I wonder if you can help with some info on Hensall Junction. My father was a platelayer there in the 1950s. There is a old spur there that used to connect to the ECML. Do you know its purpose and when it closed? Also there is still an engine shed and turntable pit at Hensall Junction, were any locos ever based there? I assume they were L&Y or maybe H&B. Regards, Phil Ward
Posted by Patricia Spink at 25/08/2009 21:55
FAO Chris Ingleby. You mentioned Ivy Rowley. Any relation to Watson Rowley? My Granddad Frederick Arthur Watson was the man who trained Freeman Orange.No pun intended.
Posted by Chris Ingleby at 13/09/2009 21:19
F.A.O.Patricia Spink.My maternal gran Ivy Rowley was married to Albert,who died in the late 50s quite young.I must admit the name Watson does not ring any bells.Interesting comment about Freeman Orange though.How I wish I could talk to all these characters now with all our modern technology to record and remember .Best wishes Pat and all Goolies past and present.
Posted by Chris Ingleby at 18/09/2009 20:01
FAO Patricia Spinks.dear Pat,I made some enquiries about Watson Rowley.Apparently he was the father of Albert,my grandfather who died late 1950s.The surviving relatives are a bit hazy about any more info,but he may have married twice.Any info would be interesting.Regards,Chris
Posted by Patricia Spink at 20/09/2009 14:05
Hi Chris,
Watson Rowley married my GGrandmother Mabel Watson, it was her second marriage. I have a picture of him. If you would like a copy email me at Tish130671@aol.com.
Tish
Watson Rowley married my GGrandmother Mabel Watson, it was her second marriage. I have a picture of him. If you would like a copy email me at Tish130671@aol.com.
Tish
Posted by David Lloyd at 21/09/2009 19:12
I have many happy memories of standing on the Hull bound platform at Goole waiting for a (very) early excursion train to Hull, changing there for the East coast resorts of Filey, Bridlington and Withernsea. We never had a 'proper' holiday but my dad Richard (Dick) Lloyd worked on the docks and was able to get 'privilege' tickets which gave us cheap fares on the railway several times a year. This was the 60's and steam trains were still widely used but diesel trains had started to make an appearance. The small diesel multiple units were a disappointment as they were just like buses but what a fantastic experience when a mighty Class 55 Deltic pulled into the station with a rake of corridor coaches and the whole platform shook! I have just completed a working scale model of the Guisborough Railway where we now live and have started looking around for my next project. Goole Station came to mind but it would very much depend upon the overall size and how much research information is available. Has anyone any ideas where I can start to get more information on the railway - particularly the station/goods yard area - during the 1960's?
Posted by Patsy Gill at 29/09/2009 20:10
Write to the Goole Times and ask about the Railway Station. I remember direct excursion trains going to Bridlington, Filey and Scarborough from Goole on a Sunday. These were in the early 1960s and I got on at Saltmarshe with my parents and my friends joined me at Staddlethorpe Station.
Posted by David Lloyd at 01/10/2009 16:16
Thank you Patsy for the idea of contacting the Goole Times. Since my last message I have managed to obtain a good map showing the railway - unfortunately it is far more extensive than I realised and just to make a scale model of the station itself (extending from the Monkey Bridge to Kingsway Bridge) I would need a 40 foot room to get it in!! Back to the drawing board for other ideas I think.
David
David
Posted by shaun whaley at 21/10/2009 18:22
phill the old spur at hensall junction was never used the railway companies fell out about money and it stood idle ever since.the old engine shed was a stop off point for crews to rest and change over but but when the lms took over the h&bly in 1922 this stopped.my mate dave bell worked at hesall junction till 1959 i will ask him if he remembers your dad.
regards.
shaun whaley
regards.
shaun whaley
Posted by frankie spowart at 30/10/2009 22:02
Please visit my site to see Haxey Jn - where the line from Goole went to Bawtry and Doncaster.... www.signalboxes.com Thanks.
Posted by Barrie P Spink at 16/11/2009 23:10
Hensall Junction.
One of my friends Colin Batty lived in Snaith and his mother worked either the Hensall Junction box or Gowdall Junction box for most of the war years. I think that she would have been in her twenties then, there was an acute shortage of labour due to the war and alot of women were employed in jobs that were traditionally mens work.
I also wonder if Patricia Spink is related to Neville Spink, my mother was called Ida Spink and there was another lady with the same name who also lived in the west area of Goole. Prescriptions were easily mixed up and medical records could be difficult too. My family originated from Leeds so I dont think that we are related
Regards
Barrie
One of my friends Colin Batty lived in Snaith and his mother worked either the Hensall Junction box or Gowdall Junction box for most of the war years. I think that she would have been in her twenties then, there was an acute shortage of labour due to the war and alot of women were employed in jobs that were traditionally mens work.
I also wonder if Patricia Spink is related to Neville Spink, my mother was called Ida Spink and there was another lady with the same name who also lived in the west area of Goole. Prescriptions were easily mixed up and medical records could be difficult too. My family originated from Leeds so I dont think that we are related
Regards
Barrie
Posted by Patricia Spink at 23/11/2009 22:16
Any news on the opening of the Goole Steam site?
Thank you
Thank you
Posted by Michael Kaye at 15/12/2009 14:39
the footage you have, of entering Goole (from Engine Shed Junction and of Goole station was filmed by me on the 12.07 Leeds - Goole in November 1989, Walter Britton was the Driver and was out and about with the camera, we were both Drivers of Holbeck Shed, the unit was 141 114. Walter a great person has retired and i'm now at Leeds after Holbeck closed.
Posted by jackie haines at 16/01/2010 09:06
I wonder if anyone can help me find dtails about my Grandfather Fred Potter, all I know about him is that he worked for the Railway, and when he retired he sold Newspapers at the entrance of the Railway Station at Goole. He stood outside there all weathers , well into his 70's,always with a happy disposition.
He lived in the 'Railway house' opposite the Station, the site now operates an Indian Restaurant and a Charity shop I believe.I believe he died in the 70's. Anything about him would be most appreciated.
He lived in the 'Railway house' opposite the Station, the site now operates an Indian Restaurant and a Charity shop I believe.I believe he died in the 70's. Anything about him would be most appreciated.
Posted by Patricia Spink at 06/07/2010 10:59
FAO Barry Spink
I have seen your name on this site and wondered if we shared a relation somewhere. I have no Neville Spink's in my tree. My Grandparents lived in Broadway, in Old Goole, and was called William and Hilda Spink. Two of their children Sabina and Hilda moved to Leeds in the 1950's. I would be interested to see if you have any links.
Still no news of Goole Steam?
Patricia Spink
I have seen your name on this site and wondered if we shared a relation somewhere. I have no Neville Spink's in my tree. My Grandparents lived in Broadway, in Old Goole, and was called William and Hilda Spink. Two of their children Sabina and Hilda moved to Leeds in the 1950's. I would be interested to see if you have any links.
Still no news of Goole Steam?
Patricia Spink
Posted by Barrie P Spink at 29/07/2010 23:49
Hi Patricia,
I was actually born in Leeds and my parents moved to goole in December 1948. my father Kenneth Spink was one of the emplyees that came to Goole to start up the clothing factory of Montague Burton in Rawcliffe road. It would be around the end of 1946 when he first came to Goole.
My father came from a large family in Leeds and his father George Spink originated from Newport near to Gilberdyke, I believe that his father had a saddlers business near to the Market Weighton Canal Bridge.
I believe that George Spink had brothers and sisters but I do not know what became of them. It is quite possible that they would seek work and that could have been in the Goole area although communications would be by Rail over the Ouse bridge.
Neville Spink will be the same age as me and I am sure that his family came from Old Goole.
Ida Spink is my mothers name and there was another Ida Spink whom I believe lived in the Westfield Ave area. My mother always maintained that there was the occasional mix up with medical records and prescriptions.
It is nice to hear from you Patricia and keep in touch.
Barrie P Spink now in Dumbarton Scotland
I was actually born in Leeds and my parents moved to goole in December 1948. my father Kenneth Spink was one of the emplyees that came to Goole to start up the clothing factory of Montague Burton in Rawcliffe road. It would be around the end of 1946 when he first came to Goole.
My father came from a large family in Leeds and his father George Spink originated from Newport near to Gilberdyke, I believe that his father had a saddlers business near to the Market Weighton Canal Bridge.
I believe that George Spink had brothers and sisters but I do not know what became of them. It is quite possible that they would seek work and that could have been in the Goole area although communications would be by Rail over the Ouse bridge.
Neville Spink will be the same age as me and I am sure that his family came from Old Goole.
Ida Spink is my mothers name and there was another Ida Spink whom I believe lived in the Westfield Ave area. My mother always maintained that there was the occasional mix up with medical records and prescriptions.
It is nice to hear from you Patricia and keep in touch.
Barrie P Spink now in Dumbarton Scotland
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