In response to the mention of cross country runs in the section on GGS.
They usually took place in snowy or icy weather when the school pitches were unusable for alternative forms of torture. There were a variety of routes: Airmyn crossings, fever hospital path, Mad Dog Lane. We once got chased by a farmer with a gun when an enterprising student teacher invented his own route across the fields from Rawcliffe Road to Airmyn.
But as you say, people used to find ways to make it easier. Richard Jennings, who lived in Western Road, just used to pop home in his running clothes and then go back to school at around the time he thought it would have taken him to do the whole thing, taking care of course not to be amongst the first back which could have risked being selected to represent his House in some sporting event or other.
The games teacher, Ellis Postill ("you silly willy nilly"), eventually suspected something and one day greeted his return "Ah Jennings! Nice to see you. Did you enjoy your cup of tea?" The reply "Coffee actually Sir" did not help. As a result Richard then had to do a cross country run all on his own to Boothferry Bridge one evening after school. He had to report back the height shown on the plate at the top of the bridge. Anyway, he got a little way along Airmyn Road when someone, it could have been Steve Kelly, came along on his bike, so Richard just had to wait while* whoever it was came back with the required information.
At the time I attended the Secondary Modern School the houses were Durham (blue), Chester (red), York (yellow) and Lincoln (green, of course) - I was in Chester house. This was 1964 - 1968.
Belated response to Robert Ward's 2001 comments about GGS cross country runs. I'd forgotten about the wonderfully named Mad Dog lane. I do remember that sadist Mr Postil very well. In winter we had to start the runs by climbing over the series of snow covered air raid shelters that used to exist at the rear of the school and on return we were chased through the showers by Mr P wielding a slipper. We also used to stop off mid run at a pupils house to drink tea and smoke cigarettes. Well maybe it was character building.
I went to the Grammar school from 1963 to 1970 and have many memories....good teachers and great atmosphere. Remember the cross country very well...bad move though, trying to run across the ice on the Park boating lake! I was the first pupil ever to walk the length of the gym on my hands...got a Mars Bar for that at the time, and arthritis in thumb joints because of it now. Sorry to hear the science block has gone but I suppose it is progress.
Does any one remember Gwalia Prep School on Hook Rd. I attended the school run by Ms Rhodes from 1949 to 1954. As the school was near to Richard Cooper st all the kids from there referred to the school as Goole Pig Sty. What happened to the school - I moved away from the area in 1955 and have had no contact since
I attended GGS from '54 - '59. Quite a few of us came by (steam) train but towards the end diesels were introduced. I got on at Snaith but other pupils were from Hensall and Rawcliffe. There were also pupils who came on the Hull train, Hessle, Brough, etc.
I well remember my first day in September '54, there was me in crisp new uniform and new brown leather satchel. Whilst waiting for assembly I climbed to the top of one of the air raid shelters and was instantly pushed off by a (new) 2nd former showing his authority. I remember his name but I'm not telling you. I was covered with mud and grass stains and mum was not pleased when I got home! Does anyone remember the goldfish pond in front of the air raid shelters?
Ah yes and the cross-country runs as already mentioned, we all hated them but they were no doubt good for us ultimately.
We had fun, we had discipline and what's more we had terrific education. What's gone wrong in the last 50 years?
I used to love it at the old grammar school.i left in 1986 but they were the best days of my life.i remember Mr plunkett the drama teacher who used to wear eyeliner.Wouldn't be heard off nowadays.it was and still is a good school.even without the old science block. them stairs were horrendous to climb.
what happened to goole high school. i think i was the only one that went, cant seem to find any info on it. my years was 1970 - 1974. I remember being locked in the store cupboard for talking! then forgotten! i had to climb through the window to get out. thanks to our woodwork teacher. still i had many happy memories.
GGS 1950 to 1955. Cross country running enthusiast, since I detested rugby (scared of getting bashed) and never properly knew the rules anyway. We had a strong team for the inter-school sports cross country competition, hardened with many circuits of Westfield Banks in all weathers. In about 1953, we competed with Wath, Mexborough, Thorne, Doncaster, and maybe one other school. One cold and drizzly Saturday morning at Wath-on-Dearne, out of a field of about 40 runners we came 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 14th (me) and about 28th and 29th. At the following Monday morning's assembly we glowed with pride when feared but respected headmaster J L Latimer announced our triumph to the whole school. I think it's the only time I got smile out of Priscus - sorry, Mr. England, Latin scholar.
I remember the semi operas we did in school,
Pirates of Penzance,and others, they were really fun.
The field hockey we played, and the basket ball.
Also the trips to the swimming indoor pool where we earned our certificates, and medal.
I also remember being so scared of the gas mask, until we had to try it on in school and that helped me overcome the fright.
Remember Miss Backhouse ? She was our principal.
I remember I could have left school when I was 14 yrs. old, but my parents and a few other parents aranged for a group of us to remain until we were sixteen yrs. old, so they made a special class for us. If I remember more I will write again, it is so enjoyable to be able to do this. Thank you so very much.
You do realise, that giving ages away like this, at our time of life, is beyond recall.
Somewhere, I have a photo album that proves I did go there.
Abiding first memory was not having a hymn book for morning assembly on first day. I seem to think I called for Marian Knott and my cousin Eileen Houghton sorted me out a locker in Windsor, green.
A mention on one report that I "was quietly effective at back in hockey" also belies my ineptness at sports.
Am sure more of these b.awful memories will surface sooner rather than later - things like showers without curtains springs to mind, too.
What was good was being in School Guides, Miss Caldwell, I recall, and we took off on my first youth hostelling weekend in 1st year - Malton, with a borrowed haversack and school lace-ups.
Reminded recent Easter hols, when me, grandson and daughter stayed over in an Independent hostel at Rogart, Sutherland - believe I am considered a good sport now! Those GGS days were where it began, if not before with parental instructions from age 5 that set the pattern for life.
As for school subjects, I shall come back.
went to the nursery across the road from Alex then to Alex primary, onto Kingsway junior, then High school as it turned comprehensive (1974 ish) then after two years onto the Grammar School till '79, with a year in junior sixth.
don't have that many memories until high school - friends mostly rather than school.
Mr Newton probably the greatest mentor I had in my teenage years - trips to Wales and the Lakes in his landrover with the dog and his family and a few other lads. Mr West - english teacher. Mr Smith - geordie one at that!
A host of memories are coming back as I read your site and other people's comments on school life. I remember having naps in the afternoon at Alexander Nursery school (I didn't like sleeping in the afternoon!); at aged 6 onwards I walked by myself to school, first Alexander Street Infants (lukewarm milk every day), then Kingsway Middle and on to Bartholomew and finally GGS. I sometimes rode my bike the long way round, through Hook over to Airmyn and down the road to GGS -- a long way but if I set off early enough I could get there just in time. Usually it was a last minute dash down Boothferry Rd.
I loved the big windows at Kingsway and my favourite teachers there were Miss Cowling and Mr Hodgson, I also remember Mrs Thompson and Miss Smith. We played netball and rounders and every year the whole school (it seemed) put on a play. At Bartholomew I worked in the library and who was that teacher who smoked cigars all the time? He taught science. Lots of teachers smoked, I remember the staff room being filled with smoke. I remember arguing with Mrs Greensitt that girls should be allowed to wear trousers as well as skirts -- she eventually conceded. And (this was the year of equal opportunities for women) I managed to do woodwork instead of cookery one term (but only because there was a boy who wanted to be a chef so he wanted to cook!). I still have my bookcase!
Crossing the road to GGS was quite a big step and I remember getting lost in all those new corridors. During my years at GGS I spent a lot of time in the music block -- Miss Glover taught music -- singing in the Goole Grammar School Singers and playing in the windband. We had to evacuate the science block once when someone produced chlorine gas. I remember physics on the first level, biology on the second and chemistry at the top. Shame it's gone. Do they still teach all three sciences? I too remember those cross-country runs. Trying to jump over a water-filled ditch is the thing that sticks in my mind because I usually fell in! But I preferred cross-country to hockey! My favourite teachers -- Mr Rinne, Mr Rumney, Mr West and many who's names escape me now but I can still see their faces and while I might have forgotten much of what they taught me I enjoyed the whole experience of going to school in Goole!
Seems quite natural to be going backwards with school memories - in the days of Boothferry where I started aged 5 plus in the January term, I seem to think, anyway the moon was still in the sky when I left home - soon afterwards on a bike more often than not. Rode on the wide pavement if unaccompanied down Airmyn Road, otherwise marshalled by my dad on his shop bike. These were the war years. Taught by Miss Hall, we were fortunate to be under the educational regime of Sir Alec Clegg of West Riding CC.
Not that I knew that then. Classroom had all the stimulus I have since seen in my grandchildren's primaries. Nature table/high window cill, calendar and season charts to be changed daily. Monitor duties. Aged 9 or so, late for school cos I wouldn't clean my shoes and kept at home until I did. Soon learned. Later years going on 11, clubs on a Friday. And reading groups with pupil reading leaders. Sitting 11 plus exam at Goole High School, don't remember any preparation, nor advice about what to do. Wrote my English composition as we called it on my favourite book - these were scarce during the War, but I had read Little Women.
Hated having to do canteen duty, for a three-penny bit I think, weekly. A tin bath full of knives forks and spoons in greasy water. Am certain I answered back and was docked wages by the Chief Cook. Dinners were horrible, like Sago pudding. First banana eaten at school, fruit from USA I think. Had no idea what to do with it until shown. Outside lavs, separate playgrounds for boys and girls, nits and school nurse examinations. Looking back we were probably in better health due to our fatless diets, exercise, and regular check-ups than kids are today.
I too remember being at the Alexandra Street nursery and having afternoon naps (we were aged 3 or 4). We each had an emblem on our blanket, coat peg etc. Mine was a pipe, which upset me immensely as I wanted something glamorous like an apple or strawberry. Story of my life. Talk about forbidden fruit.
Anway, reading everyone's memories is fascinating except that I still don't know what Goole High school is. I went to the Grammar School from 1963 - 1970 (ish) and I only remember the school across the road being called the Secondary Modern. Did the Modern school later become the High school (now Goole College) or was the High school earlier than that? Or is it the Vermuyden, aka GGS, which became known as the High school?
As I now live in Goole again after 35 years away I don't want to commit any local faux pas so please can someone clarify for me? Thanks.
GGS 1962-3, just one year but long enough for those freezing cross country runs to make an indelible impression. Some brilliant teachers and one or two real eccentrics (Bongo!), still fondly remembered. Before that, Kingsway, Mrs Millward, Miss Hall, Mr Hodgson, Mr Millward. Mr Millward loved all things Scottish, teaching us Scottish songs, the Glencoe massacre, the '15 and '45. The headmaster, I think, was Mr Richardson. I remember getting the cane but not what it was for! Before that, Alexandra Street elementary and the nursery, with those compulsory afternoon naps, very boring lying awake in the semi-darkness with the curtains drawn.
Richard, you stirred a few memories for me. 'Bongo' was indeed a lovely man, sadly I believe he took his own life. Mr Millward was very frightening, I remember him slapping the cane down on our desks to help us remember our multiplication tables (it worked!). Kingsway was the only school where I was caned - my crime was writing lines on the wrong part of the page, the teacher was, I believe, Miss Furnace? I was only 9 years old and it was quite brutal in retrospect, but we thought nothing of it then.
High School (formerly the Sec. Modern) was so-named when it acted as a staging post on introduction of comprehensive education - 11 - 13 years -as Junior School pupils from across Goole went there before crossing the road to what was still called GGS.
Looking to contact Jez (Jeremy Nutbean), would like to hear from you again.
The teacher that smoked cigars at Goole High School was called Mr Brandt. I heard he died of a smoking related illness. I can almost smell them now, thirty-five years later. I initially thought the smell was some chemical in the science room. How things have changed, my students are not even allowed to make a cup of tea or use oil paint in the college I work in, but the in 1970s teachers actually smoked in the school science lab!
I went to Kingsway, failed my 11 plus and ended up at the High School. I frequently thank God that the schools went comprehensive, as I do not know what would have become of me had I stayed there.
I was one of the first generation of students in Goole's comprehensive system. I recall it being very experimental with subjects such as Modern Studies where we looked at inner city deprivation first hand in Sheffield. Religious studies entailed dancing with patients at a mental hospital, which seemed very frightening and wrong to me even at the age of fourteen.
So chuffed to see your message. I would love you to e.mail me on firstname.lastname@example.org looking forward to hearing from you Mike. We have so much to catch up on. We often come back to Goole to have a look at our old house, and the hill. Although my brother Mike wants to contact no one from Goole as he hated the lot of ya. (he he)
I never attended Goole grammar school however I have been regulaly attending all my life, why? Goole Amatures. (G.A.O.D.S) For 11 years I have been in shows and for 16yrs before I attended as an audience menber in the wonderfull and only only such venue in goole, The Main Hall. Now to the main reason I posted a comment! It has recently come to the attention of myself and other memebers of the community that this hall is........ I hope your sitting down.......... TO BE DEMOLISHED !!! Im sure most of you out there will have some recelection of the hall and want to help us in our quest to save this iconic area of the school! Please I urge you contact the council, school, papers, myself or use the "facebook" group set up to help us to stop this from happening before its too late!
"Save the Grammer school hall!" remeber "Facebook"!
Is it true then that the Grammar School is due to be demolished?
Can they do this? It is a grade 2 listed building. Has any one looked into this and the STAGE? The back part of the hall had plaster ceilings with a relief of a Viking ship. Will this also be destroyed? Has anyone seen the plans?
ref fiona moae; i think they are doing the school up and mooving everyone to pasture road (temp) they are defanetly not destroying it.
And hopefully provide more english teachers :)
Yes it is indeed planned to get rid of the Grammar School stage. This will be a massive loss to the town. Much of the school is to be rebuilt, and the local authority have decided there is no longer any need for a permanent stage. They say a hall with provision for a temporary platform would be more flexible. I wonder to what extent cost has influenced this decision. The fact of the matter is that this is the last proper stage in Goole, and its loss would put an end to the Goole Amateur Operatic Society's productions. The town would no longer have a stage big enough, sufficiently equipped, or with the necessary changing facilities. These productions are always very well supported, and have for many years been a significant part of Goole's social and cultural life. The stage is used by other groups too, such as ballet schools. All this will end. It seems to me, from my reading of the Goole Times, that yet again (as with the proposed demolition of Phoenix Street and Richard Cooper Street) decisions are being made without proper regard for the needs of the local population. It makes one wonder whether the East Riding local authority gives a toss about Goole.
I attended goole grammer school 1982 to 1985
had miss dean as the form teacher all the 3 years there , my favorite though was miss henderson , kind of a school boy crush , but she looked after me through times of been bullied .
i was well looked after by all the scooter boyz too . now i wish id have done better at school .
if any of my former teachers are still around my regards go out to you also any friends from then to . as for the bullies *******
I went to Goole Grammar School '63-'69. I truly enjoyed my 6 years there. I was in the House of Windsor, for Phys Ed, I kicked booty on the track, becoming the Victrix Ludorum 2 years in a row. I loved field hockey, wish we could get that sport going over here on the West Coast (maybe there would be fewer overweight and angry young females) I'ts a great sport for venting....take everything out on that ball...LOL!!!!
Mr Teed was the headmaster, Mrs Williams was the headmistress. Miss Potter was our Phys Ed teacher, with backup from Mrs Ounsland (I think). She had a daughter my age named Gail...I did have a crush on one teacher...his name I cannot remember, he and Mr Fletcher, Mr Caldwell, lived at the Clifton Gardens Hotel. Of course I did have a schoolgirl crush one one boy that lasted 6 years, his name bless is heart is Charlie..
I want to say thankyou to Sheila, Charlie, Harry and Marjorie and of course my brother Stephen and his wife Angela for being there to help me celebrate in 2001.
I am 80 next month and was taken to Goole at the weekend to search for my roots. We went over the bridges to Old Goole after travelling to Hook, past Johnny Johnson' former home, Hook House.
I started my school days at Pasture Road School and remember telling a teacher my "auntie Amy" my young brother had measles so I could be sent home. I next went to Alexandra School as my Dad Alf Gaskin could take me to school en route to work.
Growing older I went to Boothferry Road School and finally to Goole Secondary School having failed the dreaded eleven plus despite taking a rabbits paw which my friend's father Nobby Clark, had given to me (he was a fishmonger on Pasture Road) - I bitterly resented she went to Goole Grammar School but my parents could only afford to send my brother Leslie, as it was believed boys needed to be trained. Les, joined the RAF when he was 17 and became a Pilot Officer and was killed in 1942.
I find IT has given me a new interest in life and I have enjoyed looking at our genaeology from the comfort of this super nursing home.
I came to GGS in June 1959, having moved up from London about a month before the end of the summer term. The school was celebrating its jubilee (50 years) - remember the story of a pupil who thought that the architect's name was MCMIX?
I used to have a collection of school magazines, "The Viking", but my Mother threw them out during a house move in 1972. If anyone has copies of them (1959-1965 especially), I'd love to see them again.
Does anyone remember Cosh House? It was very remote -I think it was in the Yorkshire Dales. Walking expeditions were made from there each year, but probably only by the senior boys. I remember the Rambling Society and one particularly exhausting walk in Dalby Forest, where we got lost.
Between 1966 (?) and 1972, i've had a pen friend in Goole. He was attending the Goole Grammar School, his name is Clive Arthur Walker.
I'm looking for him. Can you help me ?
Try Bob Watson on Cosh House!
He can be found at Waterways Museum - on the Web.
And Go00ole ramblers - well me and my kids joined up on advice of Clarry Guest, our window cleaner, about 1970 - good old days when walking meant weather and wind and covering the ground, but none of it without effort. Glad to say, my kids still do it. And me too, occasionally, although slower and less of it. Plus poles.
Keep in touch, Kathleen, there are still many of those who were the old club, out there, none more than Gerry T.
But how much of this stuff is going to be OURS? And not ERYC's?
There is little in the museum that Goole Town Council funded, no doubt with Council Taxpayer's contributions, to suggest that photos, donated artefacts, and even these memories, will be available in years to come, without ERYC's say-so? What's the protocol for keeping Goole Memories active and available, at a request, rather than ERYC expecting us to sign legalities for use of these and photographs etc. in the archives?
I had a bad experience, hence the enquiry!
Is that the same Michael Dudding who we use to rib about standing around the piano singing songs with his family during the power cuts in the early seventies?
Thank you Gail for your comment about the Alexandra School, yes, I remember those pictures, as I helped to make them as I was a teacher in that class, helped the youngsters settle down for their naps after lunchtime. Most of the children enjoyed the pictures as they were too young to read so it helped them know where there own belongings were.
I have a group picture of the teachers in the school at that time. I must try and send it to the site, perhaps I can remember most of the names.
Some very interesting reading here, thank you everyone.
Who remembers Miss Bell,the Deputy Headmistress of the Grammar School?Her very scary,though exciting lessons were great-I studied history as a result! I thought she was really old,until I met her after my school days-age is definitely in the eye of the beholder!Bongo's hilarious lessons- we were all a bit naughty...Miss Scurrah's German lessons-so much fun!Miss Charlton's Classical Society-who remembers the Roman Banquet?
I should love to hear from old pals -I live in Manila now,so e-mail is quick! email@example.com
Miss Charlton was responsible for my inexplicably winning the 5th year prize for Latin. I was baffled then and still am now. But what I do remember is that she loved perfume so much, she signed herself Nora Perfumatissima on many documents.
She always wore her cap and gown, as it did many other teachers.
Another lasting memory is of Doc Ramsey (Bud) making us all sing classical songs in sol-fa notation. I can sing several songs as, for example, "mi so so, re so so, mi so la do la re" but I've no idea what the real words are and I still can't read music.
My mum also went to GGS, but it was fee-paying in her day and she won a free scholarship, otherwise she couldn't have gone. By the time I went it was a state school, but I feel very lucky to have been a pupil at that time in its history.
Perfumatissima!You have a good memory.Does anyone remember the trips to the Roman Wall or Housesteads?I have a photograph with Valerie Jensen(Miss Streaky Bacon!),Roy Mapplebeck,Chris Lewis,and Stephen Hoier.It's good to be older-so much fun looking back!We were all sitting on a wall somewhere on the classical trip.
Bud used to get me to accompany the orchestra-I got hopelessly lost in a performance of Haydn's Creation!He looked very pained!My schoolboy crush was Mrs. Thompson,who was heavily pregnant in my first year.Do you remember the costume cupboard at the back of IB?
I should like to hear from anyone of my era-1960-7.I live in Manil
Hi I attended GGS from 1965-70. Anyone still around who was a first former then. Long live the House of Windsor. I now live in China on Hainan Island, very beautiful place.
I remember Miss Bell (Mabel) very well - she was very keen on neatness and conforming. She once made one of our form go and remove all the back-combing from her hair (it was the swinging 60s!) during an English lesson. And brought in the rule about regulation shoes, which was very unpopular with parents. She was a wonderful teacher, though. My own particular memory of her -she once told me, when admonishing me for some youthful high spirits, that I reminded her of herself at a similar age. I was so embarrassed! Now I think I should have been flattered.
I have a photograph of her with the tennis team circa 1963 but don't think I can attach it here. (Why was she on it - have never fathomed the logic of that!)
I remember you Steve Petch...I too was in Windsor House. I live in Howden (haven't travelled far and wide like you). Miss Potter and Mrs Williams also live in Howden and both seem to be remarkably well. Where have all the years gone!
I HAVE FOND MEMORIES OF GOOLE MODERN SCHOOL 1946-1949 THE HEADMASTER WAS MR FIRTH WHO WAS A LARGE IMPOSING FIGURE WHO FRIGHTENED ALL THE BOYS BY HIS STATURE THEN THERE WAS LA-LA MOODY WHO TAUGHT ENGLISH CHARLES DUNVILLE TAUGHT RELIGIOUS STUDIES CHARLIE GREENSIDES TAUGHT GEOGRAPHY FRED AMERY TAUGHT CHEMISTRY POP NORTHEY TAUGHT HISTORY HUTCH HUTCHINSON TAUGHT P.T AND GAMES MISTER REAVLEY TAUGHT WOODWORK DIDDY DAY TAUGHT GARDENING MISTER PROBERT TAUGHT AMATEUR DRAMATICS BIRDIE FELL TAUGHT MATHS MISTER FOSTER TAUGHT METALWORK
IN THOSE TIMES IT WAS NEVER KNOWN TO CHEEK TEACHERS OR ANSWER BACK
I PASSED A SCHOLARSHIP IN 1949 TO GO TO SELBY TECHNICAL COLLEGE FOR TWO YEARS SO LEFT THE MODERN SCHOOL
Interesting information there Brian, you certainly have a good memory. As I have previously mentioned I attended GGS from '54 - '59 and we had a metalwork teacher called Stan Foster and a mathematics teacher called 'Hutch' Hutchinson. I reckon they must have moved across the road don't you?
Hutch Hutchinson was form teacher for 1D when I arrived in 1959. I remember him appointing the class 'window monitor' whose job it was to climb onto the high window sill and open the large sash windows, he advised the monitor not to step back to admire his work!
HUTCH HUTCHINSON PLAYED RUGBY FOR THE OLD BOYS THERE IS A PHOTO OF HIM ON THE WALL AT THE RUGBY CLUB
ANOTHER MASTER I FORGOT WAS RON HOUGHTON WHO TAUGHT MATHS HIS PHOTO IS ALSO ON THE WALL AT THE RUGBY CLUB
Just to confirm what you've been saying. I was at GGS 1951-1956. "Hutch" Hutchinson was the maths master and Stan Foster taught metalwork & geo/enginering drawing. Must say I thought they were both excellent(only two GCE's I managed).
Hey up John Wraith I reckon I went to school with you and your cousin Ian who was in the same year as us. left in 67. I really only attended school for the rugby and a smoke at lunch time over in the gardeners shed near the junction of Centenary road and Airmyn road. Can remember getting caned by Mr Lattimore for not having my cap. the dog had eaten it but couldn't convince him.
Stan Foster was my form tutor in the 4th and 5th year and Gerry Appleyard was in the 2nd year. He checked to see if you had regulation grey socks on every day. I think that a lady called Roesenbruck (or similar was in 3rd year). Her husband had a market garden in Howden. Can remember a teacher called "Hutch" teaching (sorry trying to teach) us physics and chemistry, we didn't qualify for "test tube Taylor". One day he twigged that we were cheating and came along and caught Trigger Tredgitt, Steve Watson and Franksie with books in the drawers on their left hand side. When he came to me the drawer on the left was empty, he didnt realise I was left handed and the book was in the drawer on the right.
Happy day and what do I do for a living well of course I'm a teacher, what else.
Hello Paul Campsell and all.I 'Attended' Goole Grammar School 1951 to 1956.I was out of my depth a lot of the time in the lower classes ,holding the rest of the school up!I only got two GCE.But I have done more learning and studying in my working years in the Police force and other jobs I've had since.I am sure my years at GGS did me good.I now consider myself A Graduate of 'The University of Life' and a very happy family man.My favourite teacher was 'Mr. Hutchinson' who I lived near on Westfield Ave.Goole.He taught us the monologue about Albert Ramsbottom and Sam ,Pick up thy musket.I still recite them to my grand children.Mr. Lattimer didn't like me having an errand boys job,not right for a Grammar school boy?Other great teachers were,Angus Turner,brilliant at art and taught me a lot.Ken Ibbottson,woodwork,Mr. Foster,metalwork.Mr.Kimber our form teacher and French teacher.who was also a Hockey player( For Derby County) I think.Do you remember the 'Staff hockey' matches?I was proud to help make the new flagpole for the front of the school, although I don't suppose it's the same one standing there now.To be serious for a moment ( Unusual for me!) I do think Grammar school education did give one a slightly different outlook on life and it has certainly stood me in good stead.
I have just spent over an hour going through this site of memories and it has brought on some recall of my first 20 years of life in Goole. I have lost touch with all of my school friends and social/drinking mates, but I am ever hopeful I can make contact again.
Born in Dempster Ave, Old Goole and relocated via Dad powered hand cart to Oxford Rd when I was 4. Left Goole just after my 21st and never returned to live, only to visit parents who are now both gone.
Attended Boothferry 56 to 62, then Secondary Modern 62 to 66. Doncaster Tech 67 to 72. School did not work out for me, but College did!
Worked at Jack Petty's then Eggborough Garages in town and moved to Hull.
Memories of Goole are mainly of hours spent with mates in local woods, bike rides and the railways......running from junior school past the shops as the Hull bound steam trains approached the crossing which cut the town in two, racing up the footbridge to catch the full steam blast.
We spent hours fishing in local ponds ("brick pond", "Oakhill" - most near railways!) and as a teenager discovered girls, cars and beer.
I never had school photos and wonder if there are any out there I could have copies of. I did have a camera from the age of 16 and I will dig out some pictures of Goole in the 70's if anyone is interested. I now live in Durham and would like to get in touch with those who I had contact with in the 60's and 70's.
Thanks to the web master for the hard work.
I remember you Mike Taylor, you lived at 48 Oxford road and had an older sister and a younger brother Brian. I can remember travelling in that green Ford Anglia you had put a big bore silencer on it and some big wide wheels. Then I can remember you having a 2002 or something BMW you had painted it the worst coloured yellow I have ever seen.
I saw your sister only today in Market Weighton, shes lived there for about 30 years she said.
I wish I could remember your name!!!Poor old thing,the brain is going!Helena Rosenbroek-do you remember her?That frightful woodwork shop with all that smelly beeswax constantly cooking in a pot!I was always "removed" from Woodwork to Metalwork as my practical skills were,and stillare,nil.If a hammer won't do it,then no good at all!I alwys managed to block the Metalwork Room furnace with clinker,and smoke everywhere...Boiler Wright and his "exciting" maths lessons-I took four attempts at my 'O' Level before I got it-says something about the teaching,I think!Dr Ramsay was a bit eccentric,but a wonderful musician.How about poor Bongo-he really lived his subject.Arnie Chappell seemed nine feet tall,but maybe not!Such alot of fun,not so much work done,but I've been a Head now for many years,at present working in Manila and running Korean Schools,after Mr Teed shook hands on my last day,telling me he thought I would be a success in life,but not in the academic field!A late developer is not in it!!! I would really like to know Willo's name...We certaily knew the same people.
John C Wraith - if I remember right you were in the year above me. I once came on the bus to your place in Garthorpe with a crowd of Belgian and German exchanges. I had one of the more extrovert Belgians called Philippe Antoine. We still send each other Christmas cards.
I also got the "not academic" brush off from Teed, but doubt in the 1960s they appreciated how extensive the opportunities for late developers were starting to become. I could name several who went on to become solicitors, vets, university and college lecturers and so on, and the owner of the Costcutter chain of shops.
Hi Willo, yes my 2002 was the worst colour ever.......it was surprisingly the cheapest 5 litres I could find to respray it with!
There seems to be a lot of school memories based on GGS, but as John C. Wraith and Robert Ward mentions many Sec Mod pupils did go on to do well in their careers despite the 11 plus rejection and the efforts of some of the teaching staff to talk them down.
I would like to see comments from early/mid sixties pupils at the Secondary Modern as to their experiences and how they made it in life despite early branding as "not academic".
Any school photos from that time?
This website is great fun!I remember that terrible party!Smoking oil lamps and and dark corners...My parents were not too thrilled!What are you doing now?I still keep in touch with my Belgain people too-still visiting them.We had quite alot of opportunities at GGS.I am still very fond of the place-would like to visit it one day.We should all get together and pretend we haven't changed at all!I wouldn't mind retiring in Goole;at least I don't think I could get lost!I am really enjoying reading other people's memories,all credit to the people involved.
John - you can cyber-stalk quite a lot of us on the Friends Reunited web site. Stuart has put a link to GGS at the top right of the Welcome page, but in support of Mike, above, it would be helpful to have a link to the Modern School too (school key 6819).
Wonderful to find the FriendsUnited site.I would love to hear from so many people-scary there are so many grandparents amongst us!It is really interesting-I feel back in IIB already...
How come GGS does not have an Old Alumnae Association with website? Haven't been able to find one !!!
Mike do I detect a note of cynicism in your last comments or was it just a celebration of how well kids from the other side of the road could do as well? Come on we all know that being an academic is not the be all and end all. People from both schools have gone on to greater things and believe it or not there has even been inter school marriages.
Re: any cynicism about Modern School as opposed to GGS I would ask those who passed their 11+ how they would have felt if they had been discounted as being second rate at 11; I remember a TV documentary referring to those who failed as "copper grade children" as opposed to "gold" going to the Grammar School.
I still feel anger at being discarded in this way as a child. thank God the schools went comprehensive in Goole when I was 14 as I would never have achieved anything staying at the Secondary Modern. Girls were trained to be married, be a secretary or SEN at best. Boys kept hens, did wood work & metal work.
I went on to get an MA and I work in an FE college.
I dare say there are some posters that still agree with the old 11+ system. It didn't work for me and as a child you are not aware of what's going on to help yourself.
I don't think it matters too much which side of the road you attended. The most important thing is that you were given good education and learned discipline at school and at home. Sadly this appears to be lacking today. Incidentally I attended GGS 1954 - 59.
Wish to contact Mike Dudding and Jeremy Nutbean. We all lived down Oxford Road 46. 48. and i think Jeremys was 51? 55?.
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Would love to catch up with you (been a long time)
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I would really like to hear from my old classmates in GGS.I am now living in Manila,where I have run a couple of schools.I read the entries,here,with great interest.It brings the sixties back to life-I can still remember Arnie towering over everybody!Please contact me on ogbasan@hotmail,com if you remember me-In would be very intererested to hear your news!
Does anyone remember the GGS science teachers Mr.Bennett and Mr.Hutchinson known musically as ' Cliff Bennett and the Rebel Trousers.
My mum is Annie Hall nee Proctor and went to GGS from around 34 to 42. I remember her tales so well: people like Mahalski and Gertrude Leishtman (apologies for spelling) . Priscus the latin teacher. She has such fond memories but many of her year group were killed in the war years. Mahalski went on to be a code cracker - a brilliant man, she recalls. Mother lived in Rawcliffe Bridge at the time - brother Frank, George and Arthur. If any of you do remember her and would like me to pass a message on, I would be delighted to do so. Thank you. Prim
Phil, yes I remember Mr Bennett. At one time he lived in Kingsway where I used to live. I remember him as being a good teacher. Also 'Hutch', who was my form teacher when I was in 1D in '59, another good man.
I went to GGS for only two years, during the mid '50s and I remember our headmaster, Mr Latimer, and art teacher Angus Turner who had no patience with me -- I never was and never will be an artist! Mr Kimber took us took Bruhl, Germany on our student exchange trip -- that was a memorable, but scary time for me. The family I stayed was were very weird -- and Anneliese, the daughter, never did the return visit to Goole. I remember the channel crossing - our cabin was on top of the engine room, and the fumes and the rough seas made us all sick. I remember disqualifying our team (Tudor) in the summer games relay race one year, when I dropped the baton - so humiliated! I hung out with Janet Garner (who moved to Australia later and is now deceased) and Veronica Main. I always hated the uniforms, but now I think young people SHOULD wear them! There were good memories, too!
Rather late in the day I'm afraid, this is for Gail, who wrote in her posting of 26/09/2007 :
".... Doc Ramsey (Bud) making us all sing classical songs in sol-fa notation. I can sing several songs as, for example, "mi so so, re so so, mi so la do la re" but I've no idea what the real words are and I still can't read music".
The music is 'To a Wild Rose' by the American composer Edward MacDowell. I've never seen any words put to it, but I still play it now and again down here in deepest Essex. Bud Ramsay was a hero of mine, since I had a natural inclination for music, and enjoyed his classes. I took my first piano lessons with a Mrs. Sherriff, somewhere near Alexander St. school in about 1950. Incidentally, for years I was lovesick for Bud's breathtakingly beautiful daughter Judith, but shyness and terror meant I don't think I ever exchanged one word with her.
Does anyone know the whereabouts of Jeremy Nutbean or Mike Dudding.
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I have a copy still of the Prospectus which I received just before starting at GGS in 1955. I thought it may be interesting just to take a snapshot of the whole of the staff as it existed in 1955 and maybe provoke some memories.
I have added a nickname where I remember it.
Headmaster: Mr J.L.Latimer (Lennie/The Boss)
Senior Mistress: Miss E.M.Venables
Assistant Masters: Dr G.S.Caffrey, Mr W.Calder, Mr A.Chappell (Arnie), Mr J.A.England (Priscus), Mr S.Foster (Stan), Mr W.K.Geldart, Mr P.A.Glew (Sticky), Mr G.B.Hargreaves, Mr N.F.Hidden, Mr R.D.Hirsch, Mr E.Hutchinson (Hutch), Mr K.Ibbotson (Tacky Ken), Mr F.W.Kimber, Mr R.H.Martin (Reg), Mr N.F.Ollerenshaw, Mr W.K.Petch (Bill), Dr C.E.Ramsey (Bud), Mr G.W.Stones (George), Mr L.Taylor (Test Tube), Mr D.C.Turner (Angus), Mr A.W.Wright (Boilerhead).
Assistant Mistresses: Mrs R.M.Ayello, Mrs B.A.Bean, Miss M.M.Coghlin, Miss D.M.Dean, Miss K.M.Holland (Katie), Miss J. Longhorn, Mrs L.H.Mosley (Minnie Mos), Miss D.J.Robertshaw Miss E.Scowcroft, Miss E.M.Tyler (Tillie), Miss S.M.Woodcock
School Secretary: Miss D.M.Laverack
Assistant Secretary: Miss S.Hill
Interesting to read Barry Parsisson's list of staff from 1955. I came to GGS in July 1959 and many of the names are familiar. Miss Coghlin, who taught English, was Senior Mistress (acting) for a year before her retirement in about 1965. She was known to all affectionately as "Ma Cog".
ln reply to the message posted by 'Prim' on 16.03.08 can l just say that l have contact with a Canadian man called Geoff Boyd on Genesreunited and he has told me that the teacher at GGS that' Prim' mentioned was, indeed, a 'code breaker' at Bletchley Park during World War 2. His name was Norman Mahalski. He married a Goole girl and then emigrated to Canada. He then worked in marketing for Rowntree's and then for Shell Oil. He invented various popular slogans and it was his idea to introduce the concept of the 'self-serve' gas station.
I think it was Hutch who used to do a splendid rendition of Albert and the Lion at the Christmas parties - also of Harold at the Battle of Hastings, "with an arrow through his eye". What simple fun we had!!
Kate Hobson mentions 'Hutch' in her posting of 26.4. 08.I went to GGS 1951to1956 and I had Mr.Ted Hutchinson as a form teacher because I was always in the bottom 'D' classes holding the rest of the school up! as we used to say.I was inspired by his love of rhyming poetry such as Albert and the Lion and others,'Sam pick up thy musket' I still write such poetry when moved to do so !I also lived only a few houses away from 'Mr. Hutchinson', on Westfield Avenue and would watch / help him mend his AUSTIN 7 car.He was a very nice family man.
For Barry Parsisson - I seem to remember an Yvonne Parsisson (GGS, 1950 - 1955). Quite tall, slim girl, wearing specs. Any relation?
Yes, Yvonne is my cousin. Her father Robert and my father Walter, were brothers.
I was born and brought up in goole and old goole. We lived near the police station and went to alex nursery and primery school. my sister was friends with stacey steel and i was friends with billy and lucy steel who were twins. we moved to old goole and we went to old goole first, marshland middle and the grammer school. I moved from goole at the age of 25 and have been in west yorkshire since, i go back when i can to see my family. at the grammer school my form tutor was mr ward i remember all the tutor group putting money together and getting a strip a gram for his birthday and an artical and pic went into the goole times. Mr ward was my maths tutor also he was a down to earth chap and was my favourate teacher.I didnt like lessons much and used to gaze out the windows except in science as it was more practical then just sitting listening to teachers drone on.I still remember a few people like amanda best,sherron preston,heather bennet, dulce raper, helen blewitt,hillary clifford,dawn brown and a few more. I didnt have any grades when i left but learnt more when i left and started working and now work within the west yorkshire police force but not as an officer so ive not done too bad and doing a job i like as each day is diffrent and i meet diffrent people all the time. I used to like the old goole gala's with the floats and the effort that went into it and everyone helping, then ther was the blue angels jazz band we used to go all over on compatitions. at one of the gala's the mums got together and did molly's rejects now that was funny.
I lived at greenawn 1957-1960 i am looking for Stephen Butterworth and trevor milner.I used to go to gsm
I only attended school in Goole for a couple of years in the mid 60's before my family moved to Australia. I also remember the afternoon sleep at the Nursery School that have been mentioned in earlier comments and weren't we given Sunshine Pills as well.
Message in reply to Peter Dootson posted 26/06/2008
Hi Pete, It would be nice to be in touch after all these years. Perhaps this web site will exchange email adresses. Look forward to speaking soon,
Could Peter Dootson leave a message with his email filled in (it can't be seen by the public)? I can then swap his contact details with Stephen Butterworth. Alternatively send your email address to firstname.lastname@example.org
I believe I remember Eileen Houghton, is she still alive?
She was my bridesmaid when I marriedin 1945
Our parents were cousins. She was living in North Yorkshire, Bedale area. No further information, regretfully.
Pete - I've passed on your contact details to Steve. I wouldn't recommend leaving your mobile phone number on any public website as it could be used for spam.
Thankyou for all those memories! The smell of polish in Miss Bell's office... Being terrified to place a laurel wreath on the head of Mr. Latimer for our Classical Society Dinner-Perfumatissima in appropriate garb, perfume behind her knees, I remember! "Hamlet" and "She Stoops to Conquer"-who was in them? Those terrible Cross Country Runs - Mr. Postill checking in his van at the hospital!!! What was the name of the thin tall lady that supervised the Lunches,please? When we gobbled our Lunch on the stage - all very smart!
Message for Peter Dootson
I must have the wrong detail from our contact. Can you contact me through the site again and I will give you my email address
all the best Steve
John Wraith mentions "She stoops to conquer" - my friend Hazel Grimwood played Maria, and I think Tim Plackett was one of the lead males. Festus presumably directed? All the dramatic productions were very good - "Murder in the Cathedral", when Garth Jones came back to teach in the English Department, was excellent. He eventually married Gill Ford, who was in it.
jez nutbean was you in setteringtons class i was in those years john howard yarbo
alexandra st primary i was there in 65 66 time my sweet heart was wendy bratby they had the pub called george next to roundabout at clock tower i used to go to her house she sang little donkey in christmas play one year what a nice school it was fond memories of wendy too wonder what she doing now
is it the same mike dudding has sister called julie used to live in gatesby road in 70s i used to go to his house after school some nights
hi, jez nutbean, pete wright here, yes i remember you getting locked in... believe it was old Mr Wreavley,
Hello, I'm looking for any info on ROLAND and DOREEN MORRIS, last known address Fourth Avenue, Goole. I would be interested in which schools they attended, any friends or relatives that are still around that remember them. Roland left the area in early 40's with the army, Doreen and mum left in the late 50's. Roland sadly died in 1973 in Derbyshire and Doreen died in 2005 in Wales. I would also like to hear of JACK BEAMSON , Roland's best mate and best man at his wedding, if anyone has any info at all it does'nt how small I would be very grateful cheers.... Brenda
For John C Wraith - see above, 6/1/2008 and 7/1/2008
Entries in an old diary.
19th July 1965. School trip with penfriends to Rowntrees, York.
21st July 1965. Broke up from school. Went to party at Wraiths. It was OK.
22nd July 1965. Went to fetch my mac which I'd left at Wraiths.
24th July 1965. Went to Heather Gunsons to tape some records [from memory it was Roy Orbison]. Party at Leonards in Hemingbrough. Not very good.
Thankyou Robert!I went to the Leonnard's party too...We seemed to have parties every weekend!How did we get to them all,without so many cars?We had alot of fun and alot of friends.Is GGS having special events to mark its hundredth year?It would be good to have a massive reunion.There must still be some of the "younger" teachers alive!
Do keep in touch-I have never quite got the place out of my system.When I come back to England for my annual leave,I love a few hours in Goole,wandering the streets-so many changes.I may retire to Yorkshire if I can tear myself away from the Philippines.
Hi Brenda, Jack Beamson was my father in law, died in 1995 in Goole, so cannot ask him for you. I married his only son John Beamson in 1971, and we moved away from Goole to live in Somerset. We have one daughter Joanne, and one son, also called John. We all still live in Somerset,
Reference Brenda Tunniclffe,1.9.08. and Jack Beamson.My father Worked with Jack Beamson for a lot of years at the Government,'Home Office 'Depot at Pollington Airfield,where they prepared, maintained Auxilliary fire Engines and other Emergency equipment.for 'Flood' etc.My Dad was Joe/Geordie Anderson and Jack used to drive the Goole men to Pollington to work each day, firstly in an old AFT/auxilliary fire tender and latterly in a mini bus both painted the usual 'Drab Green'.Jack's wife worked at the Goole Swimming Baths for a lot of years.
With reference to Jack Beamson, did he used to park his mini bus in the fire station yard in Stanhope Street?
To Ivan Tasker.Yes he did park the mini bus there at the Fire Station.I think after he left the 'Home Office' at Pollington he became an Insurance man/collector
Ref.Linda Beamson, Hi Linda many thanks for the info,my dad Roland Morris spoke often of Jack and family, I have a lovely photo of dad,Jack, Jack's mum and kids outside their house,dad and Jack would have been in their late teens I guess,Jack came to mum and dad's wedding to be best man in 1942 before dad went off to India, he came home in 1945, a very changed man, had malaria a great many times, was never really well again and sadly died in 1973 aged just 52 yrs.Mum bless her is still batting, and often remembers going up to Goole to stay with Doreen and dads mum Kate in Fourth Ave while dad was away.
So before it is too late I decided to do the family tree, and am trying to fill in the early years 1918 - 1942, so once again thanks for your help.........Brenda
Message for Alan Anderson, Many thanks for your info Alan on Jack Beamson, any titbits no matter how small all add to the story, if you hear of anything more I would be grateful..... Cheers Brenda
I've been thinking about air raid shelters. There is an old aerial photograph of the Grammar School with the earth-covered shelters clearly visible at the back, worn with footpaths over the top. I never saw those, but at Boothferry Road School the shelters were red brick with concrete roofs. There was one at the Henry Street side of the infants playground, with a dark entrance opening we didn't dare go anywhere near, and another between the infants and juniors playgrounds. Some houses had shelters too. In Dunhill Road two of our neighbours still had them in the 1960s, again brick and concrete. They were great for climbing on to throw muck at children in other gardens.
The shelters at most schools incl Alexandra were Anderson steel sections bolted together covered with sandbags earth and then grassed over.Internally wooden boards like pallets in the walkways with wooden benches along either side.At the sound of the siren grab your gas mask and enter the dungeon or in my case at Alex run like hell home to mum quickly followed by the Air raid warden blowing his whistle trying to stop me.
Those at GGS in the 50's & early 60's will remember the earth covered air raid shelters. As a special sadistic treat Mr Postill sometimes required us to run over them prior to the cross country run. Not a particularly pleasant experience when they were covered with thistles and/or snow.
I don't get back very often, but did visit to show my American wife where I came from (to the poor people at 2 Forth St who had this stereotypical American blonde woman taking pictures, (through the window) I apologize!!
I went to Pasture Road school and then to Alexander Street (which I couldn't find when we did the tour, has it been demolished?). I have find memories (as VERY young kids, we left when I was 9 or so) of running around the docks, stealing turnips form the railway trains at the end of Forth St and wandering far and wide. Amazing to consider given the paranoia of today.
My grandfather owned Cowells pop works and Shorts until late 1957 when they were liquidated. I see both buildings are still going strong. Love to hear form anyone with whom I went to school!
I'm now living in Oakland, California where I have been for 12 years and on Tuesday voted in my first Presidential election - and picked a winner :-))
Yes, how i remember the good old days at Goole school. Oh how i remember them................. Oh god, i went to Rawcliffe school!!!
I remember you Mike Taylor, before I think you became Tinger. Lived round the corner from you in Elsie St. I remember as kids when we did a pushbike ride to Selby, which we did more than once...anyway this one time my tyre went bang on the way back. As it was nearly tea time, you said you had to get home for your tea...I walked it home on my own. I think I got back to Goole in time for Sunday Night at the London Palladium...
Happy days Mike...
This is nothing to do with the previous comments on this page it is just an advert for a school reunion that is due to take place at the Vikings Hotel on 14th March 2009. If you started the Goole Grammar School in 1968 or 1969 and you remember people like Linda Brookes, Andy Longhorne, Graham Canty, Martin Wreakes, Jayne Hendrickson or John O'Neil then you should come to this reunion. If you know of anyone who was in these years then please pass on the message. Tickets are available from Martin Wreakes at £5 each. To get your ticket sead a SAE to M Wreakes. 9 Cecil St. Goole. East Yorks. DN14 5JL.
I am surprised that no one has mentioned yet a charming old gentleman teacher from 4A at Alex...Mr D.B.Craven affectionately known to us all as Pop...
Also, to add, from GGS.
Remembered from the 60's and much missed...
Gareth (Gaz) Heywood...went round the world with...
Steve (Sticky) Bostock...a mate also...
Does anybody out there remember a David Christopher who went to the Grammar school between 1969 and 1976? If you do please let me know. Thanks.
I went to GSM school and hated it except for football and metal work.Mated about with Graham Skinner, Paul Jarvis, Jeryl Ward, Joan Kirk, John Revell.Alan Parish, Turkey Burton, Pud Rice, Bongo Arundal, and John Pettican.
Head master was Mr Patterson, best teachers were Josh England, and David Seven and 'splutts' for double digging plus Miss Finch had a nice pair of legs All stood me in good stead for my life ahead which has worked out ok.
Re Elsie street Hill, I remember 'Sticky' Bostock from near Eastoft he had a fantastic music collection, sorry he went so young. Another from that era was 'Scutch' ie Ian Easthope from Luddington, went to a few music giggs with him, and Charlie Simms from Swinefleet.
Makes you feel old don't it ?
Hi Elsie Street-Hill. I certainly do remember Pop Craven. I'd have been in class in 1962 or 63. He once asked us all to write down what our favourite sweets were, which we innocently did (we were 10 years old). Christmas came and each one of us in his class, at least 35 of us, was given our preferred sweet. What a lovely man.
I also remember him once sending me to the council offices with an envelope of money to pay his rates bill! I'd no idea what a rates bill was, but to this day I'm flattered that he trusted me with his errand.
I did well in his class and regard him as one of the main reasons I loved school.
If I'm right Gail, I think your surname began with an "S", (full name not given to protect your privacy). Didn't I see your dad on Locks and Quays on the telly? Again, if I'm right, I was in Pop's class with you...
There was also a made-up pillar box at Christmas where we could "post" cards to friends. Pop made sure everyone got at least one card by sending us one himself!
Unheard of these days, but do you remember him smoking Park Drive during lessons?
Well spotted ES-H, it was indeed my dad and my uncle doing the Tom Puddings stuff on Locks and Quays, and on several other TV programmes. Who'd have thought their tough old job on the canals would turn out to be a tourist attraction today?
I'd forgotten about Pop Craven smoking in class. Astonishing!
I can't quite remember the headmaster's name though. Was it Geoffrey somebody? He sometimes joined in the songs in morning assembly without using words, just very loud POM POM POMs.
Gail. Wasn't the head's name at Alex... Geoffrey Wood?
Sitting cross-legged on the hall floor singing sea shanties and folk songs. Piles of comics in the hall after dinner when it rained...
How did we pass the 11-plus...?
Sticky Bostock, what a great drummer. Used to gig with him in a band with Dennis Wilburn.
Born in Percy Street 1952 and started life at Old Goole infants school Headmistress was Mrs Higham, I remember a Miss Taylor ? sat next to Stephen Backhouse on my first day.
Then went to the junior school on Cottingham street, headmaster was a Mr Dickinson his wife taught there too along with a Miss Gunhill ?
Kids I remember.. John Clift lived in the school house when his dad Jack became a teacher, Peter Daniels, Brian Burns, James Ward, Joe Ward, Paul Raywood, Janet Whitely, David Sharp, Steve and Malcolm Nichols, Mosser Theakston, Michael Carter,Lillian Taylor, I reckon that was Tinga Taylors sister ? Peter Donague... bike shop folks in Goole? Philip Thomlinson, Stuart Anderson. Audrey Andrews, Peter & Neil Hawksworth. family were decorators.? Good days, good people.
I left Goole Grammar in 1984. I was in the Stuart House (Yellow) and my class teacher was Mrs Lester who was also my English teacher. Friends I remember were Peter King, Jonathon Stafford and Mark Headley. Anybody remember please say hello.
I was at GGS between 1957 and 1961. It was fascinating looking through this website. I well remember Mr Postill, the games teacher, who introduced me to cross country running and he did indeed get pleasure out of making you run through mud and snow. I think his favourite saying was 'sick, lame and lazy'. I also remember Mr Latimer, the head, but did he ever actually teach? Also Miss Bell. Can you imagine those two teaching today!
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This year is the Grammar School's centenary. I was in the first form in 1959 when there were big celebrations for the fiftieth anniversary of the building. Does anyone have any photos from July of that year? Anything planned for 2009?
Yes, we are planning events for the centenary of the school - Vermuyden/Goole Grammar School/Goole Secondary School.
We're going to run events from the centenary of the actual official opening of the school - April 2010 until September 2010.
If you'd like to receive information or ask questions - or just send me memories - please contact me on firstname.lastname@example.org or write to me at Vermuyden School, Centenary Road, Goole DN14 6AN.
For those who attended GGS 1954 - 59, Colin Ransome and I have some photographs of a few people which can be forwarded by e-mail.
hi polo we must have been in the same class,i sat next to pauline garner,after being split up from dave barkham for messing about.i lived in hatfield place then cottingham st.sam skinner and bongo are in my modern school photo.
Hi Steve, nice to hear some of us survived those days. Trying to fit you to Hatfield place ? I remember Pauline Garner well, especially on sports days !!
Another few lads now spring to mind not far from you on Cottingham Street, Arther Walker and Philip Thomlinson, and David Sharpe. If Bongo and Skinner are in your Modern school photo as sure as hell I am, look for the tall good looking one !name of Paul B.
I left that institution as soon as age would allow and have since had a good career in selling tractors, combines etc. It's taken me all over the world and I've met alot of interesting people in my time but you never forget your roots and where you come from. It's funny sometimes to tell someone in a far off place that your a 'Goolie', always makes me smile. Not been back there for 20 odd years, probably get lost now. I always say though we had a good education and at least we were taught to read and write. Anyway Steve it's nice to speak with you and when I get chance I'll visit the site again.
hi polo,yeah i lived three doors down from arthur,i have the school photo here in front of me and i can put names to most of them so you must be one of three left.its a photo of the first year and you must be either stood next to kapper pierce or between bri burns and sam,either way i thought the only old goolies were dave barkham me and bri in the class.unfortunately i had to leave in the second year to be educated elsewhere but came back to goole as soon as i could,and have been knocking around ever since.i keep in regular touch with paul raywood in fact i sent him a link to this site last night,he only lives round the corner and we are godparents to his two kids.i sometimes see the odd old face around carol palmer and bernice bradshaw mostly and a couple of other girls i can't name and who i don't think know me anyway.nice to think back on a gentler time innit.bye for now.
hi polo me again,just spoken to paul ,he knows you but i can't put a face to you .my wife says you may have walked her home from the vikings a time or two ,her name is jean.happy days eh!
Hi Polo, Thought I might find you here. I just replied to you on another web-site and after reading your email (13/3/09) you are in fact who I thought you were. How the hell are you? I was thrown for a while though 'cause I remember you being in my class and "wappy" and all that, but you must have been in the D form as well. I see you haven't lost your sense of humour. If you're still travelling the world be sure to ask for me in Lilydale, 40 kms east of Melbourne (that's the last green bit now before everything turns to charcoal). Graham (Sam) Skinner has my email address. So you were born in Percy street, eh. My granny used to live down there, next door, in fact, to Paul Raywood. Which brings me to you, Steve Annis. I remember you,too. I wasn't in your class but I used to dream of sitting next to Pauline Garner.
I don't remember you, Graham Bird, but I lived in Forth Avenue until I was 8, about 1961, and went to Pasture Road and Alexandra Street schools as well. We lived at the railway line end which is ofcourse now a car park. At least the last time I was there it was. My neighbours were Steve Foster, David Jackson, Michael, Paul and Chris Andrews, Raymond Alcock (or Elcock),keith and Russell Noon and my cousins, Richard and Clive Ellis. They weren't turnips in those train carriages they were sugarbeet and Mr Huby had the shop at the corner of St Andrews Tce. There was also a woodmill type place next door to the Baths Hall. I remember running up to the Baths Hall clock and back to see the time, because we couldn't afford a clock of our own. Now I live in Australia and can afford many clocks.
And to Gail and Elsie Street-Hill (27/1) I feel I should know you both. I was in Pop Craven's class In about '62-'63. What a character he was, eh, they don't make them like him anymore. And he was a marksman with a piece of chalk, or a board-rubber, or whatever he happened to have in his hand at the time if he heard you talking in class. I swear, my mate John Pettican would be brain damaged I reckon. If he hadn't have lifted his desk lid up when he did the board-rubber would have hit him between the eyes. And there was the time when John ducked, and the chalk hit David Caldicott sitting behind him. There was a soft and playful heart though, underneath that formidable exterior. I remember Pop chuckling to himself one day upon over-hearing Richard Kay, who was in the washroom off the classroom at the time, doing Bill and Ben impersonations. A great teacher and an unforgetable man.
Just happened on this site and saw some names I recognised.
Ivan Tasker, Colin Ransome and Paul Campsell.
I lived in Westfield Sq. and attended Pasture Road School then
Boothferry Road and then Alexandra Street.
I remember Don Craven but don't remember him giving us sweets
at Christmas. It was more likely to be the cane as my friend
Norman Robinson found out one day.
Anyway, from there I went, much to the surprise of the
teaching staff at Alexandra St., to the Grammar School.
I remember Ivan and Colin from those years. We also had with
us Gavin Bryars, Hazel Dunderdale, Mick Jackson, Fred Marsh.
Sheila Quarmby, Peter Parker, Pat White to name but a few.
As far as teachers went I liked Norman Hidden and Mr. Petch (History) who kept things interesting. Something Pongo Smith
Finally on Sat. 14th March there was a reunion for some old pupils at the Vikings which my nephew attended. Some weeks
prior to that the Goole Times showed a photo with my nephew on. My sister sent me the paper and I threw it away by mistake.
Does anyone know which week the photo appeared? My email
address is email@example.com
Well Polo the nickname really has me baffled. I had a drink or two with D. Sharpe and he can’t remember you. Hs your surname got a political ring to it and have you a brother called david? If so we may have spent a few hours fishing up at the wells on Swinefleet Drain or am I barking up the wrong tree!
Re Steve Annis
Hi Mate, nice to know that your still around, I didn't click you at first, thinking Steve who ? still there werent many Steve's in the posh part of Old Goole ! I remember asking your dad to buy me some pellets from Seltzers in Boothferry Road for my air gun as I wasn't old enough to get them myself !! now how did that stick in my mind ? Good to here that Paul Raywood is still around. Your right they were good days, bit tough at times but stood us all in good stead I recon. I got the nickname Polo many years ago so stuck with it. You will know me as Paul B.
You have me beat with your wife though Jean ? still had some good nights at the Vikings. As I said it's years since I was in the Old part of Goole. My sister still lives there though, somewhere at the back of where Paul Raywood lived and Morley Street I think there is now a road across from Percy Street to there and all built on.You mentioned Carol Palmer,& Bernice Bradshaw I remember them well. Another lass I recall was Janet Whitely from Dempster Av, hell she could run on sports days. Life goes by quickly when you start looking back, you lose a bit or, a lot of hair but the memories are still there. Good to talk to you Steve, stay lucky regards to Paul. Polo
Have just read the site again, a little more slowly this time. I saw the name Arthur Kendall ex GGS. Are you the Arthur Kendall that lived down Rutland Road, sister Christine? If so, I used to come to your house for Christmas parties.... Incidentally I seem to remember the schools involved in the Inter School Sports were the Grammar Schools from Goole, Thorne, Wath, Mexborough and Maltby. I remember Judith Ramsay being at the Grammar School and we had her sister Annabel in our year.
Re Steve Annis.
Hi again, trying to think of the name Jean ? is it short for Jeanette and her maiden name began with B ?
Hi Ginner, your not barking up the wrong tree. yes we did do a bit of fishing down the drain good simple days, fishing has stuck with me and I go when work allows, sometimes I think it keeps me sane !!. Your name last came up yonks ago when I was doing some biz at the coop farm. Don't get to Swinefleet very often usually just to the churchyard. I have been trying to remember your sisters name I think it was E ? she mated about wit Pat H. her dad had coaches ? give them both my regards we had some good times around Swinefleet in the days before computers and DVD's. Things sure move quickly when you leave school and even faster when you start to think back. Nice you had a beer with Dave Sharpe a good lad. It is good to hear that your still around. The nickname Polo was given to me by Sagie Woolass at the garage years back, why I don't know and I use it when need be. It has been good to talk to you, stay lucky, Polo
hi polo,sad to say i can't put a face to you.tried looking you up on facebook to see if you had a photo on but no luck.anyway you have the wrong jean,and she says she may have the wrong paul anyway.yes i remember janet alright she could run like the wind.she was in my class at junior school as well .most of my early memories seem to be centred around playing on the white tips which are sadly gone now.along with the albert rocks great places for kids to play.summer holidays stretching on forever,playing out till late without any worries .taking my dad his dinner between two plates when he worked at the gasworks.there seemed to be a lot more apple trees about then just right for raiding.its only 45 years or so but gone in a flash.getting all nostalgic now!keep taking the tablets mate..steve.
Hi Gary, I remember members of YMCA at Goole railway station on the (Sunday?) night singing 'for he's a jolly good fellow' as the train pulled away at the start of your journey to Aus. (think you were 15 or 16??) not a dry eye on the platform, also remember years later someone with a beard calling at my house - thought you were a double glazing rep. at first - Also remember Pop Craven and the flying chalk, saw him many years later in the British Legion club at Goole, must have been in his 80's and quite frail which betrayed my childhood image of him, but he remembered all his old pupils. Names like Terry Broughton, Dave Bryers, Richard Kaye Cynthia Clarke, Pud Rice. and many more. - With ref to (much) earlier comments regarding 11+ was too early to assess kids, our kid failed that exam but ended up a wing commander in the RAF. Web site brings back a lot of memories and names from the past.
Has anybody heard about vermuydens big change, it's getting new buildings, a new uniform,a new curriculum and belive it or not, a new name. It is going to be called Goole high school so it has links to the town and the uniform is going to be black trousers, white shirt, black and gold striped tie and a black V- neck jumper. And as for the new buildings, well you will just have to wait and see, I have seen the plans and it looks pretty impressive and very modern.
Hi again, Just for those of you that think that the hall is going to be demolished well, you're wrong. the hall in which the murial of the viking longship in the ceiling is staying but the area where the brown floor and the stage is, is going to be demolished and rebuilt with a bigger stage(as i think i remember) but if that isn't the case I think i remember hearing that it is just going to be restored. I hope that put you're minds to rest.
In reply to the last caller regarding alterations at Goole Grammar School, I'm sorry, I can't think of it as under any other title, but that was our time... but something I've always wondered is....whatever happened to the Head's chair on the stage.... is it still there? The one with the mouse carved running up the leg? An artisan's trademark. Was Dr. Latimer such a forward thinker? The new Head obviously now has a mouse on his or her computer, as do we all....
Hi attended GGS from 1963 to 1970. remember that teacher Mr Postill, who remembers Miss Potter? Was sorry to hear only today that Arnie had passed away, sympathy to Anthony, David and their mum. Is Mr Bennett still around? Would love to hear from anybody who remembers me. Lynn.
Yes Lynn, I remember you very well. We were in the same B-stream all the way through GGS, right through to Gerry Appleyard's class. Don't let the pen-name throw you, I sat firmly on the other side of the classroom, near Fanny Gray, Dave Blackburn, Snecky Bacon, Mike Clayton, Peter Hardy, Tank Collins and yes Tony Chappell. I add my condolences to the Chappell family.
As I recall, you sat near the window in Gerry's class just in front of Elaine Elson from Brough, I think.
Cynth Potter....unforgettable. Postill....unforgiveable, after a conversation I had with him and a slipper (in shorts). I deducted the leg to Airmyn on the cross-country to Boothferry Bridge....truth will out...
I'm also sad to hear that Arnie Chappell has passed away.One time when I had the affrontery to say I wanted to go to college, he looked down his nose and sneered 'Stewart, do you really think you are university material' -which was fair comment as I'd spent most of my time through school in the D stream. I think it was his remark that made me determined to prove him wrong -which I did. At which point he was very gracious and gave me wise advice about choice of college.
I,too,was sorry to read about Arnie-that towering man! He told me much the same.I asked to do "A" Level geography,even when I failed "O" Level!he was really a very kind man and was interested in his students.I think Mr. Postill gave me up as a bad job in the sixth form.He used to check the Library to see those who missed Double Games- normally those revolting Cross Countries!Always seemed to be foggy,too!He often saw me pretending to read,but just left me alone-maybe more of a liability outside than in...Do you remember the dancing lessons-much better fun,on a frozen day...
So many of us were fairly late developers-Mr. Teed told me I would be a success,but not in anyway academic-I have been a Headmaster,Lecturer,and whatever,all my working life-all thanks to GGS,really,even if I didn't really work there...Still remember the school lunches-those steamed puddings and custard!Blow all this healthy living!
Hi LINDA BEAMSON or anyone else who might know this.
I have never been to Goole but my father was (or is - as I havnt seen him since I was 5) REGINALD LESLIE BEAMSON.
to hear everyone on about memeries of alex,&modern school.a bit miffed that no-one mentions either me or joe.i can remember alan appleby,graeme ash ann bristow,denise bellwood.i can remember me ann bristow,greame ash,alan appleby,climbing up the old water tower for a dare, god it was scary the wooden stairs were swaying about!still see steve annis,teacher,s i remember at modern school miss finch mr evens, mrs mcallister who took 3d on when nobody else would she was a great teacher.must go now this remenising is getting all too much.
'The best days of your life' and why not. 'Soppy Stuarts' against the Tinny Tudors, Nutty Normans and Weedy Windsors. Happy days indeed even if you hated cross country runs.
Stricty come headmaster Latimore put the fear of God into everyone, discipline as it still should be but would never be allowed now.
Teachers fondly remembered Doc Ramsey my piano teacher who took me through my last Royal Schools of Music Exams and selected me to play the piano in the school production 'The Mikado'.
Tilly Tiler was it biology or something similar? Stan the man Foster for metalwork (what ever happend to Yvonne his daughter?)plus many more and last of all Gerry Appleyard my maths teacher. Would you believe still alive and come across him regular at Selby indoor bowls!.
Glad to hear the uniform is coming back to whatever they decide to call the good old grammar school.
Is there anyone out there from the period 1935 to 1940?
Hi Mally Bristow. Your name comes to mind every time I hear the name Tottenham Hotspur. Which, as I am an avid watcher of the English Premier League, is quite often. Are you still a Tottenham fan? I'm a Liverpool man, myself but Tottenham is my favourite London club. I remember watching my first ever Cup Final with you in 1963 or 4 at my place. Tottenham and Burnley, I think, or was it Leicester. Anyway, I remember Spurs won it two years in a row back then.
And I remember when you and Richard kay went to see Freddie Truman get his 300th Test wicket at Lords, and that Goole Times reporter who kept you, me and Richard in the rain while he wrote down his story, in the dryness of his car.
When I first met you, at Alexandra Street School, you were a good mate of Steven (Pud) Rice. And I seem to recall you becoming a cool dood soon after your leaving school. The girls then thought you were a snappy dresser, with your trilby hat.
So you were there at Goole Station on that memorable night of 5th January, 1969, eh, when everybody had a whip-round for me. I must have looked like I needed the money. I still remember from 3 am the next morning waiting around for 7 hours at Waterloo for a connecting train to Southamton with well over a pound in my pocket, in pennies and halfpennies. That was a lot of coins. That night there were you, Mally Abbey, Steve Gelder, Pete Walker, I think, that short bloke who used to live in Halifax Ave, was it David somebody, and a whole host of others whose names and faces unfortunately escape me. You all came down from the YMCA to see me off. It was a wonderful gesture.
I knocked on your door in 1987. I was last in Goole for a week in 1991, so I'm overdue for a visit. I'll knock on your door again next time I come. Promise I wont try to sell you any double glazing. Kindest regards to you and your family.
Hi again Sue Collins. Though I remember you more when you lived down my street I also remember you at the Modern School and years later, 1973 or 1976, meeting you and Joe in a pub in Goole and feeling really pleased upon learning that you were both married, to each other, that is. Joe, of course was in your class at school. The only other person I remember in your class was Paul Teather, I think, or was he in Phylis Jackson's class? I remember too, your sister, Maureen and Joe's brothers Geof and, a younger brother who was in my brother's year at school. Was it Michael? Anyway, I remember feeling jealous of them 'cos they all had Beatle-like hair cuts. And wondered, more than once, how they were allowed to grow it so. Between Mr England and my Dad they always made sure my hair never reached that length. Quite frustrating really.
Hi Gary, yes for my sins I still follow the Spurs, those results were (1961) beat Leicester 2-0, (1962) beat Burnley 3-1.
You mentioned Russ Noon earlier, did you know his son (Jamie) is an England International rugby union star?? In the mid 80's
me and Rich got 2 TV appearances out of the Freddie Truman escapade, one with Noel Edmunds and the other with Harry Carpenter - our 15 minutes of fame. Remember too the trilby although my recollection is more Wally than Mally. Also recall 'grenade wars' with uprooted corn stems on Woodland Road field after the harvest, using hay bales as bunkers, the double decker bus near Westbourne Grove and getting chased by coppers for trying to chop a tree down on the riverbank near Boothferry Bridge.
All the best to you and yours mate and give us a buzz next time your back to your roots, if you've time you can buy me a pint!!
Gary - some readers may think it a bit cheeky of me to say you can buy me a pint next time your up this neck of the woods, just to put things in perspective consider it payback for the 19s 6d I put in the kitty on 5th January 1969.
Whilst on Hi also to Sue and Joe, you may not remember me but I think you Sue lived down Woodland Road (near Gary?), remember also Joey and Geoff and the haircuts, terrific guys, also the scooters, Jimmy Osborne on a brand new Vespa 200, John Almond(?) on a new lammy 175, I had a wreck of a lammy 125 which I paid 8 quid for in September 1968 and was always envious of their pulling machines.
Memories of Goole
I lived in Goole from 1949 to 1955 and attended Goole Grammar school from 1950 to 1955.
I have see a letter on here from Arthur Kendall and would like to get in touch with him again, perhaps he could give me an Email if he reads this.
I have also read the correspondence from "Shuffleton Streets" and did wonder if she would remember my father Kenneth Spink as he was a member of the Rambling club in Goole. He worked at Montague Burton for most of his life and he would know alot of people on this site.
Hi again Mally Bristow, so many memories you stir. My first recollection of Russsell Noon was as a toddler with a running nose in the back lane of Fourth Avenue, and was a favourite of the weekly dustman who thought he was a "rum lad". Pleased to hear about his son. Russ must be very proud of him. Russ's older brother, Keith was in my brother's class at school. You're right, Joey and Geof were terrific guys. Jimmy Osbourne was a nice fellow, too. I met up with John "Almond" again in 1991, great character. Like everyone I thought his name was Almond, too, but it's Harman or Harmen. I only know this because he married my cousin, Janet.
I"d forgotten you were with us when we tried to chop that huge tree down with a hatchet (we were nothing if not optimistic in those days). Mally Abbey and I ran all the way home only to find that the coppers had already been around to our houses. Sam Skinner, the smoker and therefore the slowest, got caught and was compelled to dop us in.
Yes, I remember freezing my arse off and trying to learn how to smoke in that double decker bus, when I could have been in a nice warm house watching The Fugitive. Obviously the company of you, Mally Abbey, Sam Skinner, David Gill (I think I remembered his name now-17/4/09), and not forgetting ofcourse, Vallery Howard and Susan Littlefield, held more appeal that David Jansen. I remember corn fields and bale huts, but I'd forgotten about the stubble grenades. I once hit David Jackson on the top of his head. I don't think it hurt him though. He laughed as much as I did.
I'm just trying to think how much interest 19s 6d would incurr over 40 years. I can't work it out, but I recken I might owe you 2 pints. By the way did my Dad ever pay you that 10 bob for helping him deliver all those leaflets in Hull in 1965. I didn't think so. He's still alive and in good health if you want to chase him for the money. If it's any consolation he still hasn't payed me either.
I was at boothferry road first school from 1980, and remember the house colours being red, blue, green and yellow, we all had to wear our house colour badges at all times and at the end of the week the house with the most points recieved the holding for the trophy with their colour band around it for the next coming week.
I loved that school so so much and was wondering why hardly any people have mentioned it.
There was one teacher that used to keep a jar of sweets in her cupboard for pupils that had achieved good work (mrs Bellamy).And on recognition she would hand out one dolly mixture for that person, she was so strict and was there for years.
Just one other thing does Mrs Newtons shop still exist opposite the middle school?(sorry used to be).
I think i remember you Lynn barker.Were you Lynsey Hewitts cousin? If so your mum was Bessie Barker who went to teacher training college with my mum Jean. I think we all went to the swimming club together when we were 'little'.
I well remember Ellis Postil and his slipper( a size 12 plimsol).He once used it in the gym to help us vault the horse.I think it was Pete Daniels from old goole who was so nervous,he launched himself at the horse, Postil whacked him and he cleared the horse without touching it, breaking his arm as he touched down on the mat.Good job there was no parent power in those days.... lucky Ellis.He also slippered us for giving the girls a crossbar on our bikes to the baths. I got 2 for saying my bike did not have a crossbar...... halcion days.
Yes nice to see Boothferry and Mrs Bellamy mentioned. Winifred Bellamy must have been at Boothferry Road School all of her career as I started school in her class in the 1950s. There is a class photograph that includes her on Friends Reunited. She died in 1999. My teachers were, in order: Mrs Bellamy, Mr Greensides, Miss Walker, Mrs Hopley. And then in the juniors: Mrs Thomas, Mrs Jenkinson and Miss Cowling (twice). Miss Spencely was infant headmistress and Mr Millward junior headmaster.
Correction to the above. My second teacher at Boothferry Road School infants was Mrs Shand, not Mr Greensides. Charley Greensides taught in the junior half of the school. He sometimes taught us when he did a swap with Mrs Thomas. I believe he had also been a teacher at the Modern School, as was his wife, who also came to Boothferry around that time.
What a wonderful web site.
I am researching my fathers life but come unstuck at Goole. He was Thomas Leslie Holland born in Goole 8 August 1917. His dad William was a stevedore out of work with a bad back and so his family struggled. His mom Elizabeth (nee Tenney) produced the only income teaching piano. At age 11 dad was taken by an aunt to South Africa where he died in 2002. Aparently at school initially his teacher had him greet a fellow pupil each morning, 'Hello Henry. How are you?' to help realign his accent.
A Granny Clark / Clarke is in the picture but I don't know how. He had two brothers William and Robert and two sisters Ivy and Lillian and lived at 4 William Street, Hook Road, Goole.
Any info would be most appreciated.
Gary Masterman.. Ruddy hell LOL. I was in hospital only last week with Mally Bristow. We were talking of old times and your name was mentioned. Can you remember the 800 metres 1968 LOL. I was the favourite to win, and you passed me down the straight, and I was about 30 yards in front. But I got you back in the mile. Nice to see all the names pop up again. I got a lot of school photos from around 1957 to 1970 and all the teachers too. I was talking to Mrs Pascoe only a week or so ago...amazing..hope you are well take care.
It took me a while, a few days in fact, but I think I've put a face to the name (well, it has been 40 years). Were you that well-built, good looking guy, in my year at school but in the A or B stream? And did you go to the YMCA, and did we often go back to your place in Charles Drive on a Saturday night and watch Match of the Day? And were you a mate of Dave Webster's? If not, then I'm obviously way out. I certainly remember that day I won the 880 yards, as it was then, when I got bored jogging along with Michael (Bongo) Arundel and took off. I won the school athletics trophy that year. I shared it with a nice guy called McDonald, whose first name escapes me. I remember getting pipped at the post for 2nd place in the Mile. Was that you? All I remember is everybody (including Pat Abbey who'd come over from the Grammer School for some reason) screaming at me, and I didn't realise until it was too late that someone was upon me. Memories eh!
Sorry to hear you were in hospital. Nothing serious, I hope. And Mally Bristow, too. I was only talking to him for the first time in 40 years on this site a few weeks ago. I hope he too is now well. It couldn't have been the result of the Totenham-Liverpool game that put him there because that would have been the week after. I would be most interested to see your collection of photos. I can see that you are another person I have to look up next time I'm in Goole. Take care..!
Where is boothferry?
re.boothferry.boothferry is a village situated over the boothferry bridge. many names have come from village such as,boothferry council-boothferry school-boothferry golf course-even the old home of hull city afc boothferry park etc,
I kissed Sue collins, wow, long time ago, i can,
Remember Phyllis, Chris, Cynthia greatbunch of girls...
hi gary, yes right year lol..of course i was the good looking guy lol..but not well built.. saw mike arundel only yesterday..yes i remember everyone screeming on the day of the mile..im pete smith my twin stuart smith were not that clever to be in a or b lol..got loads of school photos of all years, been talking to mr greensit just recently ..taffy thomas ..dog watson..etc..and a few weeks ago met mrs pasco for the first time in 40 years..what memories..send me an email and i will send you some pics ...you take care.
by the way gary my email is firstname.lastname@example.org
Schools, god bless. Kingsway, teachers, god bless, Miss Cowling fondly know as cowbag, great teacher, best was Mr crawly a real gent 100% nice guy, music teacher, cant bring to mind his name
...then off to Sec mod, school disco were good, smoking in the bogs, swing on the red pipes, headball playtime pushing that massive roller if you were caught on the pipes.. great days,,
happy days ...
My tardy reply to Gerald Brooksbank re- Christmas parties at my home in Rutland Road when we were youngsters. Strangely, I remember your name but not your face. I seem to recall Roger - your brother? - and your giant of a dad, Wilf, he of the beautiful baritone voice, and your mum Mabel. My dad was a somewhat thumping black-note by-ear piano player but Wilf found him adequate as an accompanist. I used to get up early morning after the parties and creep round sipping the stale beer dregs from the glasses in the front room. Vile taste but exciting, since I was forbidden alcohol. Finally gave up the grog when I became a member of the Baha'i Faith thirty years ago. Best wishes Gerald, from Uncle Arthur, Braintree, Essex.
To Robert Ward, from Dennis Garner, blooming eck Robert you have a good memory or did you keep a diary. As you know most of our time at Boothferry we were in the same classes and I had forgotten most of the teachers names, now the memories are coming flooding back. I have just taken early retirement as I am pushing 60 and moved to Howden.
For Arthur Kendall from Gerald Brooksbank. I was the quiet one with the fringe. Yes Roger is my brother, he lives in Airmyn. My sister Winnie lives in Goole still. Apart from Wilf singing I seem to remember a window cleaner who sang at the parties and turned up later in a production by the Goole Operatic and Dramatic Society. I can remember one year walking home from Rutland Road to our house in Westfield Square and my ears hurting from the cold.
I myself live in Boston, Lincs having moved here in the late 70's with my work. Nice to hear from you after so long. All the Best to you.
Hi Pete Smith - Now I remember you! It was your twin brother, Stuart that finally got my brain working. Great to hear from you. I seem to recall knowing you both all way through school. Didn't one of you join the army after leaving school? I remember you as a good runner, too, and Michael (Bongo) Arundel. It was good to hear those teachers you mentioned are still alive. Still, I suppose Taffy wouldn't be that old. I remember last speaking to him in Clifton Gardens after school in December, '68 when he advised me not to leave school with a "cloud over my head"; but the damage was done. I'd love to see your photos. Contact me on: email@example.com
hi ive just found this site hopefully looking for friends from school , i left ggs 1985 moved to the midlands, if anyone know of debbie gibson , had a son called daniel and i think the other son called ritch , it has been lovely reading these and remembering things , does anyone remember PANSY POTTER the gym teacher , thanks for reading
hi gary ..yes you got it it one lol.. thats me.. spoke to mike arundel he sends his regards.. will be in touch again with your email.. will sort some photos out. you take care and hope to hear from you soon..
Fascinating stuff! Great to be reminded of some of the old names. I was there from 63 to 70, previously hailing from Old Goole. In addition to those mentioned by others, I remember Alf Davis, Rob Balcombe, Chris Lumley, Kevin Gelder, Steve Woolhouse. Bearing in mind I can barely remember my own name sometimes, that's not bad.
Goole High School 1972-75
What a great school, best time of my life.
I was a kid from the local childrens home and attended Goole high School during this period.
I remember Mr Thomas English teacher and Mr Puncheon Science teacher both great mentors , learned a lot from these two. I think the Head master was Mr England?
Hope there are more ex-pupils and teachers out there. Pat
Steve Watson left me a message on my phone last week to say that Ellis Postill had just died. He left his mark on everyone in one way or another, hopefully for most of us in a positive way. I can understand why he left you in the library John Wraith, as you suggest exercise was not for you if I remember correctly.
Gary Masterman - ah, yes - a true football fan I recall. Especially the day we 'taunted' the fans of Spennymoor before they played Goole Town......... I remember you winning the 880 yards and it was my close friend Malcolm MacDonald that you shared the overall trophy with. You just beat me into second place for the discus too that year. Plenty of names coming up that I remember. Pete Smith was not just a good runner but a fearless diver off the high board at the baths and Malcolm Bristow - didn't you go off to the Nautical School in Hull? Great to hear you are all well and enjoying life.
To Gary Masterman (and any others interested in this thread) my apologies, it was not Malcolm MacDonald that shared the athletics glory with you - I had it in mind that his first name began with M but only realised last night that it was James. The M came from the fact that we always called him Mac! He was a good friend and a great lad - I hope he went on to do great things.
To Pete SMITH - Hi Pete, just replied to you giving my work email address. Hope you receive it. Regards, Gary.
David LLOYD, eh! Well, I never! Didn't you also live in Halifax Ave, around the corner from me with your dad and older brother? Sorry, I don't remember your mum. So I pipped you at the post in the discus, eh. You have a better memory than me. Thanks for the memory boost. I have been racking my brain for years who I shared that trophy with. I knew ,too that it was McDonald, but for the life of me couldn't remember his first name. You're right, he was a nice guy. And you were an easy-going dude, too, from what I recall. If that was you in Halifax Avenue, Do you remember Brian (Conk) Carter? He is a couple of years older than us and lived around the corner from you in Western Road, opposite the playing field, he tell's me. He now lives only about 3 kms from where I am writing this in Australia. I bump into him now and again.
So, you were at that Spennymoor game were you? I'm surprised I remember that game at all, after being surrounded by Spennymoor fans at half time and clobbered on the head from behind by a cymbal, of all things. A policeman helped me up and I as walking straight away; though I didn't actually wake up for another three weeks. Great to hear from you David, hope all is well with you. - Gary.
gary Marsterman..thanks for the new email address.. sent you the Modern School pics.. ruddy hell.. BRY CARTER wondered why i not seen him for years lol..but then i have moved here there and everywhere.. im up at whitgift at the moment..and dave LLoyed..still kicking about then lol.. Richard was my best friend and it hurt to see him go.. Me i can still dive at the age of 56 lol..was diving only a month ago in doncaster .. show you lot a thing or two hee hee..only thing is cant be cheeky to anyone .. cant run anymore.. you lot take care..by the way dave you're on the Modern School pics as well.
i went to gsm in 50sto64 my teacher at thsat time was miss hall then we had mr evans for pt oh that dreaded run from modern school to boothferry bridge and back we all hated it .
i think i have a paper cutting somewhere of all the teachers at modern school somewhere .
i am sure someone out there remembers me please get in touch as it would be great to talk over old times
Hi Gary Masterman - Thank you for the kind words. Great to see your name on here and read some of your memories. Funnily enough I don't remember much of the Spennymoor game - the 'taunting' took place on the street beforehand (there were a few of us including Paul Jarvis I recall) so they may have remembered you at halftime!! Yes we did live at Halifax Ave - No 3 - quite a few of us though as it is a big family.
Hi Pete Smith - It was just about the last time I was in Goole when we buried Richard - Apart from Pete Fallon I didn't recognise anyone else at the funeral as I couldn't see through the tears when we (his brothers) carrried him out of the Parish Church. I bet you are still diving too - I remember you being a real live wire - always virtually runnning everywhere! It would be great to have some of the Modern School pictures as I have just about zero memorabilia from my formative years. Try to let me know the best way to contact you. Best regards to you both, David
Pete has kindly forwarded me various photos from Goole Secondary Modern. I'll publish them over the next few days
I think I remember you,did you used to live directly behind the school about 2 or 3 doors from Mossa? I am now living in Ireland have been for 2 years now but get back to see the family and friends on a regular basis.
Would love to know what happened to Helen(Mawky)Maw
Pete's Goole Secondary Modern photos can now be viewed online. The links on the top-right of this page show inidividual teachers where known.
All the photos can be viewed when on the web-exhibition site. Click Search, choose 'School Photograph' from the category drop-down list and then click 'Show Results'
Hi Dave Lloyd - sorry for delay in replying, sudden health issues have knocked me back since May, still undergoing treatment but crossing fingers for a good outcome.
Anyway, yes I did leave to go to Nautical School in Hull in April '66, worst decision of my life!! My only reason for applying was cos my good mate Pete Mordew wanted to go and I'd go too so he wasn't lonely, but he failed his eyesight test and I ended up there by myself, - what a plonker -
But I always thought your family lived on Burlington Crescent, as I recall walking to school with you when I lived in Alexander St. but maybe you moved? I too remember James MacDonald as an ace runner, I recall being in Durham House (the blues) and part of a 200 (or 400m?) relay team at school sports day, I believe it was James on the anchor leg with a chasm of a distance to make up - we were in awe as his long loping stride reeled everybody in, hand over fist, to win (or was that you Gary Masterman?).
Recall house teams as Durham (Blue), Chester (Yellow) , Windsor (Red???) and Lincoln (Green).
Hi again Gary Masterman - Was it you giving me a croggy down Fountain Street when we were at Alexander School and us falling off the bike with me going face down into loose gravel, that was the first time I witnessed any compassion from Pop Craven at school when he saw the mess of my face. I too remember Bri Carter, a blonde haired lad, and certainly who could forget his sister Rita !! really nice girl and a good laugh. Aah!!... Nostalgia ain't wot it used to be!!
Pete Smith - Hi Pete hope you've made a good recovery since I last saw you in not so pleasant circumstances. Still doing the Elvis gigs??
Also must say Hi to earlier contributor, my first boss, Gerald Brooksbank in Boston, great memories of my early working life Ged - hope all well with you and yours.
just been browsing the secondary modern school photo,s .
one of the teachers seem to be missing anyone know what happened to mr kendall he was my form teacher upto me leaving school .
any info please to myself g.middleton
Thanks Pete SMITH for the photos. I was thrilled to receive them. I had always regretted not having any class photos and the one you sent me was my favourite. I remember my mum wouldnd't buy it, though, 'cause my hair was too long. After 40 years I can still name just about all the boys (there is only Somebody SHARP, I think, and John Somebody whose names I'm not clear) and a few of the girls. Jerryl WARD was very nice and her girlfriend, Christine JOHNSON later emigrated to Perth, Western Australia, shortly before I went to Melbourne. I was curious about your other surname though, and your email address. I thought I detected a rock and roll bent before Mally BRISTOW confirmed it. I join Mally in wishing for you the best.
Mally, my old mate! I hope your health is improving, too. When I first met you you and Steven RICE (Pud) were as thick as theives at Alexandra St school. Maybe it was him that gave you that ill-fated croggy. It might have been me, I don't recall, but then, you were always in the wars. I remember feeling faint every time you showed me that scared tongue of yours. You're nearly right, Mally, with the school houses, that is. But Chester was red and there was no Windsor; it was York, and I think they were orange. It would have been James McDONALD in the relay. I would never have described my style as long and loping. My legs are short. Pud used to say I looked like Matt Munro. Great to hear from you again.
David BARKHAM, another blast from the past. How're going? Apart from school didn't I last see you at the maze in Scarborough one Sunday in the summer of '73? or was it that BURNS, lad (sorry, I forget his name), or was it both of you together? I was with Carol PHILLIPSON, Christine WAUDE (?), Nigel JACKSON and Gary...I can't believe I've just forgotten his surname; and I never thanked him for introducing me to a life-long passion - Guinness. You definately know POLO. I hope he replies to you and gives you more of a clue as to his I.D. To me he was Swinefleet personified, and I don't mean that unkindly. If you ever find out what happened to Helen (Mauky) MAW can you let me know. I rememeber she lived in Pasture Rd near Wooland Ave with her half-sister, Carol LINDLEY.
Take Care Dave.
Hi Malcolm Bristow - I hope the sudden health problem is now consigned to history and you are fit and well again. I do sympathise though as I am at the stage where bits and pieces are falling off and seizing up - but on the whole I am doing well. I always envied you going off to the Nautical College like that - getting to travel by train to school and in full uniform too! Really missed your company on the way to school thereafter.
We did live in Burlington Cescent at the time, Halifax Avenue had been our previous home when I attended Kingsway School. Some of my friends from there also went on to the Secondary School with me and are in the photo that Pete Smith has sent in. David Hartleberry and Jimmy Mann - who I played in the Kingsway football team with when we won the interschools cup by beating Alexandra Street School at the Victoria Pleasure Grounds - and I also remember Pete Mordew. The photo (number 23 of 32) seems to be later than '64 though and could be when we were in 2A or even 3A - the form teacher is David Severn and I am just behind and to his right as you look at it. James MacDonald is to my right. He was definitely the anchor man for your 400 (yards then) relay and what a sprinter he was. As Gary says the houses were Durham (blue) Lincoln (green) Chester (red - which I was in) and York (yellow).
I take it you are still living in/near Goole? Some of my family still live there and I do occasionnally visit although not as often as I should or could. Not sure if there is a way we can exchange e-mails safely (perhaps via the webmaster?) but it would be nice to look you up next time I am there.
Take care for now, best wishes, David
Dont actualy know if it was me you met in Scarborough,could have been Bri Burns maybe?.I was in Melbourne last year(March) for 2 weeks went for a wedding out there enjoyed it,didnt know you were out there,would have been good to meet up for a chat.And yes your right about Mawky and her step sister Carol but I never seem to bump into her when I visit goole(thats if she still lives there).
Well thats about it for now Gaz.
hi mally bristow and to all who's wrote, hope you are feeling well again. yes still singing lol.. you can get me on the xfactor page from next week and listen to some of the tracks i will be recording.
all these great names and runners and theres me still thinkin' i was the greatest lol. still glad to see you all enjoy the memories with the photo's .. hey you lot take care.. and keep looking at the pics the names will eventually appear.
Hi Dave Barkham,Thats me ok. It is nice to hear blasts from the past. I hope you are doing ok over in Ireland and that you and yours are in good health which is the most important thing. Reading the mails on this page us Old Goolies and Goolies are stretched far and wide across the world. The names keep appearing one by one which is good and brings back many good memories. How fast things go by since leaving school it is frightening. I detoured from the M62 and went through Goole some months back and couldn't believe the change. I had a ride down Percy St and looked at the old infant and junior school sites what memories. I have just been looking at the school photo's on this site they are excellent, they bring back a few memories although I don't think I feature on any. Too many days off twaggging !! no wonder I'll never be a rich man.
As you can read from earlier mails I came across Gary Masterman on this site and Steve Annis. I often wonder what happened to some of the lads such as John 'Wacker' Harding, Brian Burns, John Revell, Paul 'Jarvo' Jarvis, Michael Carter, Paul 'Turkey' Burton, Alan 'Pazzer' Parish but to name a few.
Dave, it's good to know you are still around and remember me.
Stay lucky Regards PB
Good to hear from you,and yes Goole has changed.I wouldnt know where Alan Parrish or Turkey Burton are these days but I do know that Wacker Harding,John Revell & Charlie(Dave)Blanchard are still living in Goole,Bri Burns is still in Old Goole and Mick Carter I used to go watch Hull City with him nearly every week before I came over here.It is good tho to look at the old photo's bring's back good memories.I am actually going back over there next month for a few days so hopefully bump into some of the above to have a chat and a drink of course.
Take care Polo(that nickname I didnt know)
Malcolm Bristow, greetings from Boston. Saw your name on this site a while ago and Chris said it must be you as soon as we saw reference to the hat. I believe you were wearing it when you came to the office in East Parade for the job interview..... Hope that the health problems you mention not too serious and that you are better now. Are you still in the shipping business or are you, like me, retired? Perhaps you could drop an e-mail over at gerald firstname.lastname@example.org and let us know how you are doing.
What is in a name ? Throughout my school career, If ever a nickname caused anyone so much discomfort, ridicule and difficulty then Paul ‘Turkey ‘ Burton did it for me ! I also remember all those other ‘nicknames’ of boys that I went to school with such as Tony 'Flicker' Fletcher , Gazzer, Mally, Pudding, Petty, Pazzer and many more . Like many growing up in the ‘60s having lived through the trials and tribulations of being regarded as an 11 plus failure and then being rescued by having a solidly good education and encouragement at the Secondary Modern by enlighten teachers ……… Many thanks to John Evans, Frank Ford and Mr Thomas to name but a few, who gave many pupils direction and hope. Having left Goole for nearly 30 years it still holds a few fond memories! Warm summer evenings after school fishing at ‘Oakhill’ or the’ Brick’ Ponds with the ‘Mann’ brothers Jimmy and Arthur. Then in my late teens living it up on a Friday night at the ‘Blacksmiths Arms’ and Saturday night at the ‘Vikings’ with my still good friends the ‘Armitage’ brothers ….. Graham and John and still a very good friend John Dargan. ‘ Biff’ Richardson and her crowd of ‘le gals’ made up some lively female company. I have looked at interest at all of the threads on this site and it has stirred up what I thought were some deep, long forgotten and buried memories and has left me with a smile. ‘Turkey’ never to ever be again answered to Paul Burton
GGS 1960-67. My name was Marshall then. I'll always remember thinking how big the 6th formers were when we started at age 11. They were building the new hall at that time, which I hear is going to be demolished? What a shame. Anyway, there was the most horrible smell in the school which we were told was the decomposing bodies of dead rats which had been trapped under the new construction. The cleaning ladies sprayed lavender air freshener around which did absolutely no good. My first form home room teacher was Miss Coughlin (Coglin?), she taught English, Hutch taught us science in the 1st year - and gave us the formula for photosynthesis - which we didn't need until the 4th year. I was freaked out! Cynth Potter with her cape and motor scooter was a real character. And I remember Bongo - what a sweet man. He had a lot to put up with from us. "Tommy-Gun" Taylor - poor guy with a horrible stammer, Test Tube Taylor in Chemistry, "Elvis" - can't remember his surname - in Physics. Bennet and (Josephine?) Huddleston for Biology. "Boris" for English - can't remember his name either, but he always had a 5 o'clock shadow. Does anyone remember how the Vulcans came in over the school as they were on final approach for RAF Finningley? One particularly loud one caused "Turnips" Townsend to speculate it was an old boy getting his own back!
I was Deputy Head Girl in my final year and had my title and prefect's badge taken off me for getting caught smoking at the swimming gala!!
What a brilliant picture of the old (pre-1964) GGS chemistry lab in last Thursday's Goole Times.
Wow! What a lot of dredged up memories. I too can remember sitting in Pop Craven's class at Alexandra Street School, though I only did one year there. Then on to GGS in 1964 and a memorable cast of characters. Fond memories of 'Bongo' Smith's History lessons, less fond memories of Postill's cross-country runs (or in my case walk around the streets near the school and then jog back in near the end!). I recall having Dr Ramsey as a form teacher and then 'Minnie' Caldwell, and being the despair of Mt Ibbotson when trying to teach me woodwork! Lots of fun in the Science block with Mr Bennett, Miss Huddlestone and Dr Taylor. I also remember a mad Polish chemistry teacher who seemed to like setting fire to things. Naturally I remember 'Arnie' Chapell - terrifying but a brilliant teacher - but my all time favourite has to be 'Hutch' Hutchinson. He was supposed to teach us general Studies when I was in the 6th Form but we soon discovered that he was easily sidetracked into telling stories of operating the limelight machine in the old Tower theatre, and lots of other fascinatingly irrelevant stuff.
PS I also seem to remember John Wraith in a production of Hamlet. My own contribution to the artistic life of the school was to play the Cat in Pinocchio!
Re Paul Burton. Hi Paul,as I have said on this thread before it is surprising who reads it and from all corners of the world aswell. You stick in my mind not only as one of the lads but as the first person I met when I arrived at the Modern school,you were sent to the matrons office to 'collect' me and show me the way to the class room as I started a few weeks after the term had began, funny what little things you remember. The nicknames of both the lads and lasses are as you say a distant memory and now you sometimes wonder how they got there in the first place but, with age and respect they get for the most part left behind. The Modern school was a good solid institution and as I have told many folks throughout the years there was a good education to be had from some really good teachers, Josh England was my favourite If I had to choose any, very fair but very firm. Ok so we messed about a bit but at least we were taught the basics properly of how to read and write etc, and respected right from wrong which without doubt has been a good base for me over the years. If you seriously crossed the mark then you took the punishment for it. I only said a few days ago that I can remember the only time I had the cane, it was from Patterson the head honcho, that was for being caught by Mr Cutler for going to the sweet shop during the break, and getting the slipper by Les Setterington, who had size 10 hands, and a size 4 slipper, I thought att he time this won't hurt, but how wrong I was by hell I shudder even now ! That was for climbing up the cricket nets when they were first erected down near the bottom prefabs. But Les God bless him was a fantastic bloke and his horticultural skills, his big smile and superb manner taught me a lot which I have made good use of throughout my career. I left school and went to work for Joan Kirks dad and then her brother for a lot of years, plus Jeryl Wards dad aswell. I sat next to Jeryl all the way through school as I remember it was strange going to work and still seeing them. Paul, it is good to know you are still around even if like me you are long gone from Goole. We can all shake off a nickname but one thing is for sure mate we are all Goolies born and bred. stay lucky. PB. Paul.
Robert - Re "picture of the old (pre-1964) GGS chemistry lab in last Thursday's Goole Times". Haven't seen the picture but I vividly remember the smell of the place!
At Goole High School now chilllin' with my friends and stuff enjoying the time while i can. Also boosting my future with with alsorts of different topics it is a good school all look smart in our new uniform.
Pam Revell (Teale) and Susan Allen (Revell) would like to know if any of our our year at GGS are interested in having a reunion. We would like to hear from anyone who was with us between 1962 and 1967. Please contact either Pam or myself on email@example.com
Re coments: Betchley code breakers teaching at GGS Miss Hetty Hill, later had sweet shop on corner of Elsie Street. This lady had a great knowledge of the war days at Betchley.
May I ask your name?I recently read your comment on being left in the Library-I sometimes had to support Mr. Postill when he did knee stands on me...I think I normally dropped him,so he was happy to "lose" me in the bookshelves...He always treated me well,and we could walk the dreaded Cross Country Course in an hour-no need to use alot of steam!
Hi I was at the Modern School from 1970 - 75, My Teacher was Taffy Thomas, just reading some of the comments, creased me up, had a good time at school, had a long weekend most weekends and didn't go back till tuesday, always had Friday off, yeah it was good fun. I noticed a post from Paddy Ward, wonder where you are now!! if your still in Goole it would be nice to catch up sometime. Best Regards Steve Walker
I was at GGS from 64-71 : so I remember Terry Broughton, Arthur Walker & Pete Daniels, to mention but a few. I think no-one can forget Bongo Smith and Arnie Chappell. Reading Arnie's obituary made me realise why he struck fear into us - we were nothing compared with what he went through at Arnhem. I also fondly remember Alan Whitehall & 'benjy' - a great teacher who'd be struck off these days! Like some have recalled, my parting words from PL Teed were "we wish him well we can do no more" - written off at 18!
Keith, can you say where Arnie Chappell's obituary was published. I'd like to read it. Thanks. Bill, GGS1959-67
Mr Chappell's obituary was in The Goole Times of Thursday 19th March 2009.
I started at GGS in 1958 and my first form teacher was Ted Hutchinson. One of the best to gently introduce a boy from a small village into large school. I can still visualise him walking along the corridoor and raising his hand in greeting with the litany I = E over R after we had had a science lesson.
I hated PE and Gym with a fervour especially when we were sent out on runs while Ellis Postill retired to the staff room in bad weather.
I recall the school being extended by connecting the old hall to the canteen block and the construction of the tower block which was reputed to be 18" out of plumb. Despite this minor detail it stood the test of time. During the building phase Nutrocker by B Bumble and the Stingers was to be heard blasting out from contractor staff radios.
I spent many happy hours in the wooden metalwork shop which stood apart from the main school. Maybe that was a fire precaution in case the forge was overfired? Stan Foster was my form master for two years in 4M and 5M.
"Elvis" Hall taught physics and somehow showed us how to create formulae out of thin air by dimensional analysis. I wish I could remember how but its forgotten nowadays.
We had a brilliant chemistry student teacher called Gray, who won a PhD in Chemistry while he was with us but had a really difficult time controlling us kids on a mundane level.
I also have fond memories of Bongo Smith reading from the Canterbury Tales to us but when he came to a risque bit he would edit the reading. We said he had a wooden leg but I don't know if that was true.
George Stones ground "BODMAS" into our minds in his maths lessons. I found myself doing exactly the same to some apprentices a couple of years ago.
Contemporaries of mine were Tim Lewis, Paul Wales, Paul Dobson, David Kyme, John (Spud) Taylor, Susan Abson, Christine Colby, Beryl Taylor, Anne Stannard and others I am no longer in touch with.
I attended GGS from 1941/1946, having read all above comments, it seems that there are very few of my old school friends left,
I saw Gerry Appleyard's name among those listed, he was in the first form in '41 J.L. Latimore was Head master "Bandy" Burroughs was metalwok A Mis Maddison taught English can't recall other teachers
Among other pupils at that time were Jack Hatfield Roy Greensitt
Wilf Pullan Daz Wressle Dis Allen George Cheeseborugh
Ken Richardson Malcolm England.
To pick up on something John Jessop mentions above, Doc Gray wasn't a student teacher but a full staff member. He started around 1961 and stayed until around 1967. Around 1963, Mrs Rosenbroek told us Mr Gray was now to be called Dr Gray.
In response to Alan Cumberworth, there has been a fortnightly column running in the Goole Times since February on the history of GGS. Lots of it has been devoted to the accomplishments of people there in the 30s, 40s and 50s, and actually I wish it would hurry up and get on to the 60s and things I remember, but maybe Alan would relate to it. I get the GT by post, not cheap, the postage costs more than the paper, but I guess the series will eventually come out as a book.
Reply to Robert Ward, I left Goole 1956 worked with BBC in London and Leeds until 1988, a few years later I emigrated to Perth Western Australia, so thanks for the info re Goole Times I join you in hoping it comes out in book form soon
I think Dr Gray came to GGS as a student teacher first, then came back again shortly after as a full time chemistry master. I could be wrong?
Re Sue Pinkerton's recent message (4/11/09). I see you had your prefects badge taken away from you. I suffered the same fate. My crime was to be caught canoodling with, possibly even snoging, a beautiful girl in the fifth form. She was called Cheryl, can't remember her last name. In the event I was happy to lose my prefect's status as it meant I was no longer eligible to read a lesson in the morning assembly.
I well remember Mr Craven. I was in his class 1956-57 He wore a trilby as I remember.G wood was our Head we had Noel Longbottom, Mrs Raywood, Mrs Westerman and other female teachers whose names escape me .In the infants Miss Savage is the only name I remember. although I think Mr Longbottom might have taught infants too. I have school photos of Mrs Raywood's and Mr longbottom's classes from the early 50s.My sister went to the nursery but I went straight into the infants.I remember being shown round Kingsway school when some had the chance to attend there but I wanted to stay at Alex. I have some fond memories of Alex friends and teachers.I moved as an adult,and after 27yrs went back to Goole, sad to see that the old school had gone.
Ref. the posting by C.A. about Mr. Craven. I was in his class 1953/54. I started school at Pasture Road, I walked to school from Westfield Square. Left Pasture Road and went to Boothferry Road School. There was then some changes made and I, along with several others from the Westfield Square/Woodland Avenue area were moved to Alexandra Street. I recall the "Kid Catcher" had his office at Alexandra Street school. His name was Mr. Crabtree and he lived in Westbourne Grove. I went to his house a couple of times with my father to watch television, football matches as I recall. I seem to remember Mr. Craven as being very strict and a very good teacher. He must have been, I got to the Grammar School.... Alexandra Street has been demolished and neither Boothferry Road or Pasture Road are schools any more, a shame that.
hi Gerald do you remember any of the other teachers at Alex? The ones I mentioned or others.Yes Mr Craven was strict but as you say a good teacher.Any one know when he finished teaching or other details
Hi C.A I only remember Mr. Craven, Geoffrey Wood the Headmaster and Mrs. Raywood. I seem to recall a tall, thin lady with glasses but don't know a name. The only other name I remember from the primary schools is that of Miss Cranitch who was headmistress at Pasture Road School when I started there in, heaven forbid, 1948......
Hi Gerald I think you possibly mean Miss Savage There was Mrs Windle(not sure of spelling)and a Miss Peterson I think she came after your time at Alex.Surprising how things come back, this website stirs memories up. I started school about 1950 as I was born end of 45. Left Alex summer of 57,never see any reunions mentioned
just been talking to steve walker today.i too was at childrens home in goole same time as paddy ward.we are trying to get in touch with everybody to sort some kind of get together.its been a long time coming 34 years since we left.best years of my life where av they all gone we got away with murder...until we got caught . so anybody out there who remembers lets get in touch...chris
Goole Grammar School Leavers of 1990
I’m hoping you’ve heard – Mandie Purves (nee Howard)/ Sally Sneep have organised a reunion for our school year.
7pm - Saturday 6th February at The Vic Club, Carter Street, Goole.
There’s a bit of info, and Mandie’s contact details, on Friends Reunited but everyone’s invited and can just turn up on the night. Helen Lawson, Liz Walton, Janie Sherburn, Tony Clark, Graig Gelder, Shelly Marrit, Donna Moore, Jo Oswald, Simon Leech, Donna Phillpot are just a few of the names who’ve said they’re hoping to make it. It’s a great chance to meet up and find out how everyone’s doing - it would be great to see you there!
Does anyone remember the name of the Head Boy who was killed on Bridge Street while he was biking to school? It happened around 1965, I guess.
I remember he had a bright future ahead of him and what a tragedy it was.
Robert Ward - are you the brother of Mike Ward? He was in my class all the way through Grammar School as I recall.
Re the tragic death of the Head Boy. I'm sure his name was Keith Burton.
No not related to Mike.
Yes I think he was called Keith Burton, he had a younger brother who I knew. I believe Keith was waiting to go up to Oxford or Cambridge when the accident occured. The headmaster (Mr Teed) organised a memorial service at the parish church to which the whole school attended. A very tragic affair.
For CA and Gerald Brooksbank re - teachers at 'Alegs', as I and my mate David Clarkson called it. The headmaster was Mr. Frankland, our final teacher was 'Pop' Saynor (sp?), and there was a Miss Brown over my first class - she was rather partial to whacking kids across the knuckles with a ruler. Maybe that's why I gave up trying to get Grade 8 abrsm :-)) .
My Dad, Roger Freeman, came from Goole and had many fond memories of Goole Grammar School, class of 1963, and Goole in general. He talked about the Copper Kettle, cups of coffee and a Park Drive. And of sneaking off cross country runs to have a sly cigarette but still arrive back in a respectable place. We used to go back often to visit relatives when I was a lot younger, and I remember swimming in the Municipal Baths, the beautifully kept cemetery on Hook Road (which I still visit annually) and Snells ham for tea. Dad would be horrified at the demise of the New Bridge Street Hotel, run at one time by his grandfather, Arthur Calvert.
Did he live on Pasture Road and go on to med school? If so, I had a mini-crush on him!
Sue - yes he did, on both counts! How extraordinary to think someone had a crush, albeit a mini one, on Dad! Were you at school with him and do you still live in Goole? He used to tell great stories about growing up there.
He wouldn't remember me - I was a chubby little 3rd former when he was in the 6th form, I worshipped him from afar!
I now live in the US about 30 miles outside Boston.
Thats a long way from Goole! Dad went off to medical school in Leeds, and eventually moved to Newcastle for work (The Freeman Hospital, believe it or not) where he stayed, and where my sister and I were brought up. He was always a Goolie at heart though! He would have loved this website as he and I had got quite into family tree etc. and had had a trip round Goole and Swinefleet looking for stuff shortly before he died.
My Grandma still lived at 110 Pasture Road for years, until she came to live with us in Newcastle. I think she was a dinner lady at the school - she told us she had to serve the peas at the end of the line because she was left-handed and would have clashed spoons anywhere else!
Reply to Steve Sharpe...hearing your list of names brings the memories back. I served 31 years as a physics teacher, and am in my second career as a physics lab technician at Dame Allans school in Newcastle, a happily settled grandad.
All the best to a great bunch
Quck scan through, the 1 name I recognised was Barry Spink I seem to recall he was a redhead like myself and lived in Woodlands Ave is that correct?
For Sandra nee Charlesworth
As a lad I lived in Rutland Road and my old school pal Barrie Spink lived round the corner in Woodland Avenue as i remember. I was in e-mail contact with him a few weeks ago.
He now lives in Scotland. He was very much a hero of mine, an absolute engineering genius who was fixing tv sets for Kevin Balmforth by the age of about 15. We met up one day in the fifties in Coventry where I was an apprentice in telecommunications at GEC. At the time Barrie was at the Radar Research Establishment at Malvern.
I attended GGS from 1971/1979. It's nice to see that Alan Cumberworth remembers my dad, Malcolm England.
Does anyone from GGS late 60s early 70s remember a lad called "Scutch" Aka Ian Easthope from Eastoft.
We had some good nights watching live bands together. Last I heard of him was many years back now when he was driving a crane for British steel at Scunthorpe.
Anyone know of his wherabouts today.
A reunion has been arranged for GGS pupils that started school in 1962. The event will be held on July 3rd 2010 in a local hostelry! Any one that attended school at that time and would like more details please contact me. firstname.lastname@example.org
I shall be in England in April and would like to know what is happening for the centenary celebrations. It is a long way from Manila! I have caught up with quite a few people through this website, but if there are people I went to school with, just around the corner, please contact my email so we could meet up-never mind the grey hair and wrinkles! email@example.com
Have a great time, John. Look up Helen while you're there.
i attended goole modern schoole 61 65 have fond memories of that time the great times we had dances we would have on thursday nights in the hall with john evans learning to do the twist in the playground and the hippy hippy shake sports days swimming galas realy good fun i organised a reunion when we were all 40 then when we were 50 they were great so now there is another one arranged for us 60 year olds on the 23 october 2010 at the vikings again 60 music and good old rock and roll 3pound a ticket since the last dance we have lost a few school mates so anyone reading this who would like to come along and meet up with old school mates please do anyone wanting more information give me a ring 01405 768366 a few names to jog the memory stan butler denis garner george hubie mally chapel gavin ash stephen clarckson john johnson margaret westerman ellen macaurley rossie smith janet ross angella palmerone the list goes on
hi. my dad mr teed was headmaster at GGS 1964 to 1984. he was the one who pushed the am dram with doreen chapelle, hired the teacher from london who wore makeup and got him in trouble. i went to same school 71-78. i saw a post on longhorn. i played rubgy with his younger brother jeremy , and gilly and john arnold was it. adiran glue in my year. mandy appleyard who went on to journalism and last i heard edited news of world sunday mag. michael west i kno endd up at cargill and still in area. ruth ne deighton, collette pounder, denise kitchen any of you out there. how wierd we all have similar memories of the school bit like reading proust and it all floods back back from a taste of a piece of cake. oh and was that janet wtson 2 years earlier who was in my sister srar's year. My dad is still alive if a bit shakey 85 retired in cornwall fyi.
Well Well Well Mr Teed. I see quite a few people who attended school the same time as we did. I am glad to hear your dad is ok, wasn't your mother an artist?
Well Well Well Mr Teed. Glad to hear you dad is ok. I see quite a few people that were at school with us, must try and have a reunion at some point, I think Sharon Moore (that was) organises them from time to time, She has nursery land in Pasture Road
I was at school with you, I seem to remember we shared the art prize though you were much better then than I was. I work as an art lecturer & still do my own painting.
I remember the drama teacher who wore make up. What happened to him? I seem to remember he was there one day & gone another. At 14 you quickly forget & in those days we didn't question stuff like youngsters do today.
There was another teacher called I think Mr Kerridge something wierd happened to him too.
Very happy to know Mr. Teed is still hopping around!he very kindly talked to my class in London,years ago,about a historical subject,but the students only wanted to know if I had been bad at GGS!I stayed with the family in Thornbury-I still have a Shirley Teed in a prominent place in my house in Manila!Much admired...Please give him my very best wishes!
For David Teed. Some time ago I posted a message seeking contact details for Mr Teed. I simply wanted to give him my belated thanks for something he did for me. Once when I had committed some misdemeanour, can't remember what it was-possibly not attending some cultural event, your Dad summoned me to his study. I was expecting a good telling off. Instead after expressing his disappointment in my behaviour he gave me a load of books to read by American authors- James Baldwin, J D Salinger, B F Skinner, Kerouac etc. Some of it quite racy stuff for a 16 year old in Goole! Anyway I read them and the experience engendered a life long interest in American literature which has given me much enjoyment. I wanted, belatedly, to thank your Dad for that. I would appreciate it if you would pass this message on to him. I thought he was an excellent headmaster.
(Bill Stewart,GGS 1959-1967)
thank you bill . My father is coming to stay this w/e and im going to introduce him to the website. he has an email adress so im sure he will want to get in touch. not sure how that works exactly i note some people have typed their email adresses in here.
hi denise. didnt you originally go to school in newquay. My dad retired to CrantocK south of newquay in 1984 - i myself bought a farmhouse in the same village. My mum is still painting she and my father have just got back from a trip to venice. My younger brother robert became a teacher down in London but is now actually back in York running an art gallery with an an old school flame he re-united with . I went to a 20 year school leavers do in 1998 at the ''new'' rubgy club - nothing like the old one. Not been back since. did you return to the area?
David, thanks for that. Should he want to get in touch my email is: firstname.lastname@example.org
Hello there - this is Peter Teed, headmaster GGS 1964-1984.
We are staying with David in London and have read your emails. It is amazing that anybody should remember all those years ago and I very much enjoyed the experience of everyones recollections.
John Wraith - I well remember coming to your school in London, but I had no idea you had finished up in Manila. It sounds idyllic. Shirley is still painting and is currently showing in York where Robert, my youngest son runs an art gallery. I do nothing except try to keep alive. Fortunately for me the health remains reasonably good.
We love living in Cornwall and the webmaster has my email and if any of my ex pupils wants to get in touch pls feel free.
Bob, I will send you an email. I must say I don't remember giving you the American literature but it seems to have had a more positive effect than the cane!
Dear Mr Teed, I have lots of happy memories of being a pupil at GGS from 1963 -70. I decided to take an extra 'O' level at the same time as my 'A' levels and in order to accommodate it you gave two of us extracurricular classes on the American Constitution in your own study. I got the extra 'O' level, by the way.
But my strongest memory of you is this. One day you began morning assembly with a talk about the American civil rights movement and Martin Luther King Jnr. Someone from the side of the stage quietly came to tell you that Dr King was dead, had been assassinated. It broke your heart right there in front of us all and you had to leave the stage. I've always believed that moment changed me too.
Very good work, Mr Teed.
looking for anyone who was in Miss Halls class of 1964 ?
Aha! Many names I recognise on here from a dim and distant past. I was at GGS 1971 to 1978, vivid memories of it. Now a journalist and moved back to East Yorkshire (Beverley) some years ago after deciding to go freelance and slow down the working life. Names I still hear/of: Adrian Glew, a curator at the Tate Gallery, Mark Johnston now a professional actor, Netty Harrison (from Garthorpe) a GP practice nurse in Leeds, Ruth Deighton back in Goole area, Steve Hailstone teaching adults in Lancashire, etc. Fiona Moate - happy memories of meeting up with you about a decade ago. The teacher in make-up was Mr Robertson, I think -a Canadian? He didn't last long: recall him getting eaten alive trying to teach the finer points of Shakespeare's history plays to a motely crew in the youth centre. I remember Goole and those early days fondly, though my school days were fairly unhappy. MA
PS I think Peter Teed was a visionary. As I recall he came in for some stick from hang 'em and flog 'em locals, but I think his interest in the wider world, notably Europe and America, was timely and brought a refreshing new dimension to school life. His passion for the arts filtered into school life and made my GGS days richer than they would otherwise have been.
hi mandy - i tried to contact you whne i saw you were editor of news of the world magazine a couple of years back. Good to hear from you - see you dont remember me :-( But thanks for the kind words about my dad - ill pass them on when im in cornwall later this month...might even get him to work his PC and log onto the site. take care
for denise walker - did you return to the area - i remember sharon moore .I went to a 20 yr re-union in 98 missed 30 yrs in 08 - we should do another one but before 2018 ! I got to looking at our old house -manor cottage, old goole on google streetview - its changed so much from when we left in 1984 - funny things memories.
David L. Teed! Course I remember you. Vividly! Not sure why you wouldn't have reached me at News of the World but anyway....I wasn't there long. Would be good to catch up properly with you. I remember meeting you at the reunion, and you coming to my 36th birthday shindig at some ex-Turkish Baths in London. Aren't you a mega-wealthy oil trader now? More distantly, I remember some wonderful times with you at Manor Farm in Old Goole, and with you in Crantock. Oh, and of course, in A level French with Mr Grossett. How are you doing? MA
David. I'm interested in buying one of your mum's paintings. How would I do that/see her old work/new work? Does she still paint? I always loved her oils, and a 'Shirley Teed' on my wall would be a reminder of so many happy moments/places/milestones in life. M
I missed the last reunion as I was very ill. Back to health now, so I hope there will be another one soon.
I get to Goole now & then & it would be good to meet up again & exchange some memories.
I hated school, but I realise school days are good ones when you look back. I also realise when I discuss mine with friends & work colleagues that GGS was particularly liberal & ground breaking in the 1970s.
hi mandy. My brother Robert moved back to York a couple of years ago and ended up going out with Paula who was in his class!- they live in middlethorpe - you remember where the rum runner club was that has now been turned back into middlethorpe hall hotel a wonderful queen anne hotel. anyway they opened an art /crfts/pottery/jewellery gallery in york this year and currently my mum has an exhibition of oils she painted over the last 2/3 years in venice. otherwise she could do one of cornwall for you/! drop me an email and we can exchange contact details - email@example.com
Hello Mandy Appleyard, I think the teacher was Ian Macelinni not sure if that is the right spelling, but he was Canadian, and always smelt of garlic and wore big jumpers, thats the one I am thinking of. David Teed my god what a memory you have, yes I did start my school years in newquay, it was trenance infant school, then I went to crantock st junior school. I have been back in the Goole area for about 26 years now, and yes I think a renunion should be sooner than 2018 lol, take care... Dee x
To Mr. Peter Teed.
I have a Shirley Teed,hanging in my house in Manila-much admired-a 1967 production of an eroded shell.I really loved Shirley's bold work-all that paint!A terrific character to boot!I should love to e-mail you directly-my address is firstname.lastname@example.org.I sort of retired two years ago,but had so much work,that I thought a regular job was more efficient!I am Head of a new international school just outside Manila-almost eleven year here now!Can't come back until the dog dies!!!
I didn't realise your school days weren't happy ones (Mandy). I hated my time at school (apart from the 6th form when it got better). I really felt an outsider & was very unhappy at times. I have never coped with authority too well & I was terrified to stand up to the teachers. I couldn't stand Mr Urwin the English teacher, though in hindsight he was probably a pretty good teacher & I suppose very young at the time. I work in education myself, for the second biggest Adult Education Service in the country (at the moment, subject to David Cameron). It's a great job, very rewarding & I hope it will not be closed down due to more education cuts. I still do my own painting, but had a difficult few years following brain surgery (probably due to an unnoticed head injury, I was always clumsy)!
Ian McIlhenny became a well known actor: have seen him in loads of TV dramas over the years, most of them set in Northern Ireland, most recently in Queer As Folk. I always liked him. He was Irish but had lives in the States for ages, I think. Mr Robertson was the Canadian, I think: short-lived tenure at GGS. Anyways up.......Did/do you have dark hair and look like a 40s movie siren? Trying to picture you. Did you work in a caff on Boothferry Road?
You sound like you've been through it. Fully recovered now, I hope? I remember you really well at school - one of the characters, you stood out, and I remember your art work vividly. Are you living in the north-west still? I get back to Goole now and again and feel fondly for the town despite miserable school days, though I am shocked by its aesthetic decline, its down-at-heelness these days. Successive planning authorities have a lot to answer for, eh? I am still good pals with Netty Harrison - seeing her this Saturday, in fact. Email me? email@example.com
hi there everyone,sorry i have not been on he on here for a while,
i just would like to say that my twin brother Stuart Smith died on the 28 aug 2010 im sure there are many out there who will remember him.. any comments please R.I.P. Stuart.
Hello Pete, I am really sorry to hear the sad news of Stuart's death. I remember well how you were both inseparable and know you will really miss him. He must have been quite young and is yet another example for us all that we should make the most of life.
Hello Pete, truly sad to hear the news, I was sat next to Stu in Chemo at Scunthorpe General around new year, recognised him instantly but had to introduce myself, after a double take he noticed some small resemblance in my looks to my schooldays, he knew it was terminal then, we talked and laughed about Alexandra St. and Secondary Modern days and jogged each other's memories of events and people that we seemingly had long forgotton, enjoying each other's company given the circumstances. My sincere condolences to your's and Stuart's families.
I attended an enjoyable GGS reunion at the Vikings last Saturday. The folk attending were not limited to my year but everyone there overlapped with me to some degree. I found myself struggling to recognise many people but with some prompting I did manage a few and after mentally putting new faces to names we reminisced over school experiences from about fifty years ago. Some of the attendees had travelled considerable distances to the meet, while others had remained in the locality, or travelled far but returned to the area in later years (in my own case to Johannesburg but found Yorkshire to be a superior place to live - hence my return).
It's nice to see so many familiar names on here since my last posting: Mandy Appleyard, Fiona Moate, David AND Peter Litherland Teed! Does none of them remember me?
Yes I still hear of Adrian Glew of course, as well as Andrew Hilborne, who lives in south-west London - Andrew's wife and I sing in the same choir.
So sorry to hear of Stuart's death,saw him a few times when i visited Goole long time back but had a visit in August but never heard anything about his death.
I was at Pasture Road Infant School from approx 1948/9 to 1950/1
and then went to Alexandra Street Junior School. I progressed there until from Class 4B I passed for the Grammar School. The Headmaster at Alex was Geoffrey Wood and I wish I could remember the name of the class teacher of 4B as it must have been his hard work that got me through the 11-plus.
I was at GGS from 1955 to 1963 and was in the same year as Bryan Avery. Bryan lived on Fifth Ave and his parents house backed on to the same lane as a friend of mine - Mike Nichols. Mike also started the Grammar the same time as me and we were in Class 1C.
The air-raid shelters were still up on the edge of the school field and were definitely out of bounds and the prefects kept an eye out for trespassers. I also suffered Postill's cross-countries but never dared cheat.
I remember Reg Martin was the Science teacher who could not keep any discipline whatever in his classes.
I remember a badly disabled History teacher who we believed had a wooden leg.Was this Bongo?
I was taught maths up to "O" level by 'Fritz' Hargreaves. We called him Fritz because for some reason we thought he looked German (his huge eyebrows maybe?).
Stan Foster, the metalwork teacher, also taught me Engineering Drawing.
I was in the senior sixth form and I remember that one day Arnie Chappell came in the classroom and said that anyone who had not applied for college yet was now too late as the closing date for applications had now passed.
I hadn't applied so I stayed on at school for an extra year. When I did arrive at Leeds/Carnegie Teacher Training College the following year I found that a few of my fellow students of that year had only applied a few weeks before and were accepted so perhaps Arnie was wrong.
I taught in England for 24 years and then emigrated to South Africa. My first School was Bewerley Street County Primary Junior Mixed in Leeds where I stayed for a year as was expected of ex-students of Leeds Training College.
I then went to Dunscroft Junior School for 7 years and finally Thorne South Common Primary School for the remainder of my time as a teacher.
Hi Pete, hope you're going okay! I just read about Stuart, I'm really sorry, mate. I remember Stuart and you all the way through Modern school, like David said, you always seemed to be together. I can only imagine how much you must miss him. It's times like this when I feel like nipping over there and having a pint with one of my old mates. You take care, Pete, my thoughts are with you.
I went to goole high school from april 1973 to june 1974 and hated every minute i think because i was from out of the area i tended to get picked on hence i tended not to go ,i had a couple of lads made me welcome mainly colin firth and paul fields if any one knows of any of these l people it would be good to get in touch they will be about 51 or 52 now i would think
I was fascinated to read the memories from many years ago. I attended Alex Infant and Kingsway before GGS, in 1962. I left to go to Australia (Adelaide) when my family migrated in 1966.
Some of the name of teachers bring back pleasant memories. The cross country runs, through the boating pond and potato field! Remember taking the wrong route on a cross country and managed to take about twice as long as it should, particularly since I ended up around Hook.
Happy for anyone who was around at the same time as me to contact me by email. I have visited Goole a few times over the last few years to catch up with my uncle (Jack Day) who lives in Hook.
Sec mod teachers 1964 should include Mr Townend, Len who taught history, RK, Art etc and took part in the Gilbert and Sullivan shows in early 70's. I eventually married him. He has acted and directed many plays at Doncaster little Theatre.
Remember doing o level exams in the hall at GGS with the noise of bulldozers etc in the background. They were extending the school in the sixties and we suffered. I am sure that they wouldn't put up with it today. Cross country runners used to stop off at our house and ask to use the outside loo. We lived in Murham ave at the time. Girls used to go on long walks for double games in bad weather because there was no gym due to the refurbishment. Miss Holland who took us for home economics would dictate housekeeping notes eg 1 get the cooperation of the husband!
I remember Nora charltons roman banquet. I can remember Stephen hoer ( is that how you spell it?) reciting an ancient roman recipe called Salt fish without fish!
We had to stay behind after school to complete the Latin course. She took us on a trip to Lincoln and filmed us with her cine camera. I wonder if she still has the film?
The Roman Banquet was quite a feat!We were all dressed in sheets,I think!I remember having to place a wreath of laurel leaves on Mr. Latimer's balding head-hands shaking,of course.Physical contact with the great man was not the norm!Stephen Hoier was my best friend at school-super bright too!He left me in the shadows there...l
Many Apple yard, just looked at you last comment in August, I did laugh. yes I had long Dark hair (still have, although its out of a bottle now) and we had a bakery on boothferry road with a caff behind it , so you were probably right, hope you are well, have to catch up at some sort of reunion
To Jan Townend. I remember your husband, he taught us 'O' level history. We were the 'guinea pigs' (the first ones to take 'O' levels at what used to be known as 'The Modern School') Other pupils in our class included:-Margaret Oldridge, Judith Dixon, Janet Gossop, twins Pamela and Janice Kitchen to name but a few.
I don't think I was alone in actually enjoying school, and rarely missed going (wasn't allowed to stay at home in any case!)
denise kitchen. How could any of us forget you! crantock - small world - my mum and dad bought a cottage there in 1971 and I bought one of those thached cottages - penlyn in 2000 and then bought Vosporth Villa in 2008 which in your days was the farm house in the centre of the village where they sold wonderful clotted cream direct from the diary at the back . We should all definitely have a reunion and not one where people come up and say ''you ruined my life 20 years ago '' like the last one!! david england,ruth deigthton,mark johnston,mandy appleyard,mrs thompsons (art teachers )daugther.....gilly,glewy,woody, jeremy longhorn, john somebody who was really good at rugby,steven hailstone, fiona moate, michael west,keith ward, collette pounder ,janet clark,trudi shaw, andrew hilborne - my word what a cast of cahratcers. Im 51 this year - we were the first ones in to the merger into comprehensive..wasnt it 1972 - ''CLASS of ...those who made the first year of GGS merger with secondry modern '' so 2012 will be 40 years - and the olympics and the queens 60th on throne...
We ought to do something next year David. I missed the last one as I was having holes drilled in my head! Probably have improved my memory for the past. Actually I had proper flashbacks to 1974 ay school after I had, had it done.
Hello David Teed, You won't remember me as I am quite a bit younger than you, we lived in Old Goole not far from your old house, Manor Cottage. Your mum painted a picture with me on it at Old Goole First School in 1985. The painting hung in the old school hall for years. When the school closed it was sent to Marshlands Middle School, were it spent many years in a cupboard. I went back to the school a couple of years ago and asked about the painting. It now hangs in my front room, next to a small landscape painted by your mum in 1961. I never thought, almost 25 years after the picture was painted, that it would be hanging in my front room. I also have a copy of your dad's book.
I know its a big ask, but does your dad know anything on the history of Manor Cottage? I am trying to peice together as much information as possible on Old Goole, a topic much neglected, and am finding it difficult to get anything on the old place.
Anyone who had the misfortune of being in Mr. Millward's class will remember what a miserable excuse for a human being he was. If anybody hated kids more than he did, I have yet to meet him.
I remember when an unfortunate child actually crapped his pants rather than put up his hand during assembly to go to the toilet because he was so scared of Millward.
Children were regularly thrashed for the 'crime' of talking during assembly.
What year was that Sue?
David Teed. Yes it would be lovely to get some sort of reunion next year, as it would be 40 years since we from the high school bombarded the grammer school, lol. If you organise something let me know, Steve and I would love to come, Just to let people know, some of you may remember my Father who had the bakers shop on Boothferry Road, Richard Cooper Street and Pasture Road, sadly passed away on Jan 9th just gone. and as we were looking through family photographs we came across some of the bread strike in 1975 does anybidy remember that, just curious! (David Teed dont tell your dad, but was unable to go to school, shop far to busy haha) xx
For David Teed, Hey Mr!! if we do have a reunion, I am going to be cheeky (lol) and ask you to bring me up some cornish clotted cream please xx
Sue, you are quite right about Mr Millward. Here is what I posted previously "Mr Millward was very frightening, I remember him slapping the cane down on our desks to help us remember our multiplication tables (it worked!). Kingsway was the only school where I was caned - my crime was writing lines on the wrong part of the page, the teacher was, I believe, Miss Furnace? I was only 9 years old and it was quite brutal in retrospect, but we thought nothing of it then." I think Millward saw his role as toughening us up for secondary school. Despite all that I have good memories of that school. Mr Richardson (?) the headmaster sometimes took a class and he was an excellent teacher. I was there 56 -59. Bill
I was in Millward's class 1959-1960. His wife also taught at the school - she was a sweetheart.
What an amazing site! The memories keep flooding back.
I attended Boothferry Infants and was in the same class as Mrs Thompsons (GGS teacher) daughter who played Sleeping Beauty in the Christmas play.
I went on to Kingsway where Mr Millward terrified me but I think it was the pressure of trying to get us to pass the 11+. He seemed much kinder and more relaxed after the exams.
Failed the 11+, obviously the effect of the ruler rapped over my head and told to get my brains working didn't have the right effect.
Best friends there were Timothy Rowse whose father was head of GSM. Tim died very young (asthma). Jonathan Crapper was also a good friend.
Thanks to the support of a great teacher Mr Evan I managed to get to GGS 13+.
Many happy memories of GGS. The smell of Hartnells "in Love" wafting from Nora Charlton, being in She Stoops, Murder in the Cathedral and Hamlet. Anyone know what happened to Geoff Sayers, Geoff Hearne, Heather Gunston?
I remember the 3 you mention well, being in the same class as Geoff Sayers, the same chemistry group as Geoff Hearne, and although Heather Gunson was in the year above, she went on a Belgian exchange visit at the same time. I don't know what became of Geoff Hearne. Heather is on Friends Reunited. However, I'm sorry to say I noticed in the Goole Times that Geoff Sayers died at home in Goole last July, aged 60. I believe he had returned to Goole after retiring from teaching. Anyone else remember him as Hamlet in the school play?
I went to Kingsway primary school and was taught by Mr Millward. I was terrified of mental arithmetic when he would slam the ruler on the desk . I couldn't sleep at night because I didn't know my 7 times table. I was terrified. I made a vow then that if I ever became a teacher I would not treat children as he did. I did become a teacher and I hope I treated children well. I always tried to get them to be the best that they could be. Mainly through Drama. I was Janet Barker then.
I remember Geoff Sayers . My sister Pam was in Murder in the Cathedral and she was Gertrude in Hamlet. I remember he was in Oedipus in a grand production between the Goole Amateurs and ex students. It was performed in the quad I think. I often wondered what had happened to him.
Robert, I was sad to hear the news you posted about the death of Geoff Sayers at such a young age. Although I was older than him, I did know him because he lived in our street, Kingsway, and his parents -who were lovely people- were friends of my mum & dad. Geoff was one of those people you remember just because he was such a nice guy. And yes I remember him playing Hamlet at GGS.
I remember my Dad was in that Oedipus production as well. I can't remember what year it was, late 60s? I remember he had a terrible cold & caught it because the play was performed outside in bad weather & he was wearing a thin cotton costume. I think he was a messenger. It was the only time I remember my Dad being ill when I was a child.
Interesting to find a picture of myself in Mr Cutlers class Goole Sec Mod School. 1964 I recognize quite a few on the photo, does the site have a facility for adding names to school photos?
Message for Jane Hand (nee Beamson).
Reginald Leslie Beamson was my Uncle Les, so that makes you my cousin. Jack Beamson was his brother - my other uncle. My father was Douglas Beamson. I remember seeing Les' children on a couple of occasions so you must have been one of them. If you want to get in touch I'll try to think of what more I can remember about your Father.
Does anybody out there remember "The Avengers"? Not the TV series but a pop group who used to play together at dances in 1963-4. Mike Brogan, Bri Ibbotson ... I think they even made a recording, with donations from Senior VI at the Grammar School. Or the radio hamming - Paul Moncaster comes to mind - same era?
I don't remember the Avengers, but Bri Ibbotson later formed 'Stovepipe Lee and the Mobile Stragglers', 1966-67, with himself, Roy Strachan and Chris Warren on guitars. I've forgotten the drummer's name.
Were the others in the band Mick Leonard and Roy Strachan?
Was it Reggie Leonard?
I remember that band with Bri Ibbotson, sTrachan Brogan etc. they played for a dance I attended at GGS. Later on in life I took my daughter to a panto in Bradford and noticed Bri in the orchestra!
I have been reading some of the e mails from people who attended the secondary modern school but there was very few from my era 1960-65. I was in Miss Thompsons class in the 1st year but thereafter I cannot recall the teachers names. I left Goole in 1971 and joined the RAF. I did bump into then flying officer Bristow at RAF Wyton in about 1972. I bumped ito Gavin Ash when I went on a Med cruise with P & O Gavin was the ships engineeering officer. I left the RAF in1986 and went to Middlesex University gained my Hons degree then to Greenwich Uni for my PGCE. I am a freelance lecturer in colleges and universities around Greater Machester. I remember Pete Smith and as I recall introduced him to running as I was a member of Goole Harriers. This was very useful because later I became a Physical Training Instructor in the RAF and represented the RAF at Athletics cross country and football. I have to say that my school days were not the happiest and I have never missed Goole. I did take my wife to see the place, to which she commented that it reminded her of one town she lived in for a short while, Resigna. But nothing like her long standing home town St. Petersberg which we go to regularly and the most likly we will live in on retirement. Sorry to hear of Petes brother passing away.
I remember your sister Pam in Hamlet. There was one particular rehearsal when everything was going wrong - a lack of commitment, people not turning up for rehearsal etc Mr T was in a poor mood.
He told Pam that she should be coming on stage sounding like a cow in labour to which she screamed/yelled that she had never felt like a cow in labour. It did get a round of applause and somehow the rehearsal improved after that.
Can anyone remember the carson family in goole schools. Iam looking for patricia or any other carson.
Mr Millward always wore a grey suit-he had a way of standing with his hands pushed into the top of his trousers.He wore braces,and my greatest wish was for his trousers to fall down,in the middle of one of his tirades...Mr Hutchinson(?) was the teacher below and very kind.
The grounds of Kingsway were very well kept and good school lunches too-never mind good health-long live steamed jam sponge and custard!Did anyone reach the dizzy heights as biscuit sales persons!We collected them from Mr Richardson's office at break times-going through the minute school library.I can taste the marshmallow biscuits as I write!
I went to the school later than you John & didn't know Mr Millward. Think I heard he died young, is this correct?
I remember those biscuits too, & the library & adjacent medical room where we used to go & see the school nurse & have injections.
I fell in the playground on the ice & broke my arm. I think they had gritted it when I returned to school, but could you imagine the out cry now? Then it was just an unlucky accident.
to gary masterman just reading yr comments,i think we maybe related,my mum is a masterman maureen daughter of the late ken masterman,im presume you maybe his brothers lad !!!
To Gaynor Hughes,just seen your message for Gary,you and I are also related my name is Peter Masterman son of the late Eric Masterman who was one of Ken's brother's along with Gary's dad Don Masterman.Do you live in Goole.
I was an English and Drama teacher at Goole Grammar School from 1969-1972 following on from Garth Jones and being replaced by a Canadian chap called Robertson I think. I have very happy memories of teaching there. I was an extremely young teacher and not at all sure then that teaching was what I wanted to do. Peter Teed, a terrific head, was hugely influential in encouraging me to continue as was Ernest Ferriman, the Head of English, and I have subsequently enjoyed a very rewarding and varied career in education. So thank you Mr Teed and my very best wishes to you. Whilst at Goole I directed Zigger Zagger, The Dragon and, of all things, a Japanese Noh Play! I remember three very talented actors- Lyn Sharman, Stephen Tose and a girl called Pam - I can't remember what her second name was. The bloke who played Zigger himself was great too but the name has also gone. I was sad to hear about the death of Geoff Sayers who became a good friend and we stayed in touch for some years afterwards.
I well remember being in Zigger Zagger singing 'There's something about a soldier'. It was a nice change after Shakespeare and opera productions. Was it you Alistaire who produced and directed our improvised drama at the youthclub which won the runnerup spot in a local drama competition?
Nice that you remember the play Phil. I was the drama tutor at the youth club for most of the time I worked in Goole so yes I think that was me.
Mr Teed was much liked and respected by many pupils, parents and teachers who knew, worked and studied with him. What stood out most for me was his accent - one typical of his class and generation - announcing him as an upper-middle class Cantabrigian, while hiding his enlightened, progressive, patrician values. A rare mix in Goole back in the 70s.
Just remember - and compare with anywhere now - what the school had going for it back then. An abundance of rugby, cricket and hockey teams, athletics events and sports days, Duke of Edinburgh awards, camping trips to Nidderdale/Lofthouse with map reading, rambling, pot holing, caving, rock climbing (“outdoor pursuits”, as they were quaintly called). Then there were the foreign exchange trips to France and Germany (for many this was a first trip abroad), and for those rich or religious enough, trips to see Passion Plays in Oberammergau. There were lunchtime and after school hobby clubs, a drama soc. debating soc. etc. etc. And a youth club on site. Plus staff with a range of teaching styles and accents from around the world. An education back then was about so much more than paper qualifications.
My personal encounters with him were few. The most memorable was probably when the form teacher Dave Cox had put all the boys in detention, following some minor misdemeanor to which nobody would own up. Myself and two other lads felt this was unfair as he didn’t know if the culprit was a boy or a girl, so we said the whole class should be detained, and not just the boys (this was after all 1973 when battles about feminism and equality were raging). So our ‘delegation’ went to see Mr. Teed who ensured both girls and boys were duly kept behind and equality got its fullest expression…
I remember he had a particular habit of taking apart his pen while talking to you, examining the parts, and then putting it back together again.
It’s true that back then there was often a lack of discipline in class, but those were changing times, difficult ones when authority of all kinds – politicians, police, parents and teachers were being challenged on every front. Throughout the whole of the 20th century I doubt there has been a harder time to be at the chalk face.
But overall, yes, without doubt we were lucky to have been at Mr Teed’s school. I owe him much, and wish him a long and happy retirement.
So, young David, when did you first become attracted to the sensational world of tabloid hacks??
Looking for Patricia (pat) Carson at school in Goole 1950s. Any info would be nice.Bob
Tom Hardman - 23/3/11
Hello Tom, don't think our paths ever crossed but you mentioned my brother (flying officer Bristow)who is two years my senior, John (my brother) and Gavin Ash were inseparable and still keep in touch even though both seem to always be at different parts of the globe. If you are interested can advise John retired from the RAF over 20 years ago having attained the rank of wing commander, he is now married, living and working in the USA
Hi Gaynor (14/4) and Peter (15/4), yes, it appears we are all related. Gaynor, I remember your granddad Ken and your mum Maureen very well. She and I are cousins. A very nice lady, too I recall. I think I last saw her in Bridge Street in 1987. Give her my fond regards. And Peter, it appears we are also cousins. Eric was my dad's eldest brother, I recall meeting him only once. You must have been lived in Scunthorpe? I would love to pop over and have a drink with you both but Melbourne is a long way away. It'll have to wait until after my son finishes law school. Which will be a while 'cause he's only twelve. Until then regards to you both.
I have come across an old photograph taken at Pasture Road School in May 1951. It shows a group of boys in front of a ramshackle wooden building. Something we were building I seem to recall. Apart from myself on the photograph are Michael Armitage, Peter Greenfield, Bryan Avery, Michael Baines, George Abbey and Keith Dobson. There is another boy at the front shielding his eyes from the sun and I think that is probably William Bird. There is another boy in the top right hand corner who I cannot identify. We are all now 67/68 years old, aargh. I have seen postings on this site from Bryan and had an e-mail last year from William. If anyone knows the whereabouts of the others please let us know.
Gary, me owld mucker, lame excuse to Gaynor and Peter, everybody here knows Melbourne is through North Howden heading towards Pocklington, have done it before on me bike in half an hour...... and youv'e got a 12 your old kid!! ....my granson's older than that and if I remember correctly we were born in the same month!! (although I did start very young).
Take care mate
Ged me owld boss, pleased to see your still going (strong I hope), what a fantastic memory for names, I struggle to remember my own at times, best regards to you and Christine
Gary hope every one is ok, yes I still live in Scunthorpe and I am retired now and have been trying to research the Family Tree.So if you have any info or photo's you would be willing to share with me I would be most grateful.My e-mail address is firstname.lastname@example.org if you would like to get in touch.Also Gary please give every one my regards especially your Mum and Dad.
Take care Pete
To Mally Bristow
Hi Mally thanks for that information, it appears that most of the former RAF are living in either Aussie, Spain or the States.
We are considering moving to ST Petersburgh but I will have to improve my russian from its current level. Please pass on my regards to your brother I left the RAF in June 1986 after 15 years. I believe Gavin lives down south close to a place called Balls Park if I remember correctly.
just got on facebook am looking to find a few old mates who was at goole high school from 67 to 70 had loads of laughs
Glad somebody remembered the biscuit sales.I also had an accident at Kinsway-I tripped over a cane in a P.E. Lesson and couldn't really walk for about three months-my only claim to fame!I have no news of Mr. Milward-thakyou for telling me.I was in Goole in May and met two school pals by chance-we all said we hadn't changed,but maybe we were just being very kind,after forty years!
I went to kingsway, Millward was a real thug to all kids what joy i was offten on the end of his ruler, and another great joy was miss (no wonder) cowling loved to pull ya socks down and smack ya legs until they were raw.. apart from that a cracking school, best of the lot was mr Crawley he must have been ten foot tall if he was a day... but what a great man or as he often told me when i asked , can i lend a ruler , answer No you can BORROW one stuck with me over 40 yrs..
chris i think they can add names just look over the site and you will find contatc info...
Mally Bristow, good to hear from you again. You mean I've been living just out of Pocklington all this time! Then why is the beer so different? You're right, mate, you did start young. I think your daughter who answered your door to me in 1987 was about as old as you were when I had last seen you. Take care, mate!
Thanks for your email address Peter Masterman. I don't have much in the way of old photos. In fact, I don't have anything. I'll drop you a line anyway.
goole secondary modern,
best of the lot on the day i was there, Mr Hislop sports and and Miss Read, and Mr Sethrington (old stutters) only class where you had to wear a wet suit for half hr, lol .. but the worst of the lot was paterson the head alot of us thought he was Himler in hiding away in goole... a man who loved to get his cane out, /// boys must be punished he would say, yeah right...
re BROADWAY (7/7) - Aye, them were the days! My favourites were Messrs WATSON (Dog), ENGLAND, OLIVER (Great bloke, but we didn't learn much) KING and Mrs GREENSITT. I remember the gardening teacher as Mr SETTERINGTON (or (Spluts") another wonderful character. I'll never forget him trying to teach a whole class of 15 year olds how to mow the lawn - with garden sheers. You're dead right about PATTERSON, though. I only spoke to him once, on 29/11/69, the day he expelled me.
Re Gary Masterman. How you doin' fella, nice to see your still going strong. Wow, those modern school names keep coming up. I too hated that Patterson guy with a passion, a little man with a big ego, and how many of those have we come across over the years.? I had the cane a couple of times from him, he thought he was well ard' with a stick in his hand. I did like Splutts though he taught me a lot about the land and growing things which was a good base for my career. Mr Oliver also was also a good guy for me in the metal work room again teaching me something that was useful and of inerest.
Hislop was good for the main passion, football, which has stuck with many of us no doubt.C'mon the Wednesday. The Chester house team was good under Mr Seven who was a real straight bloke. There was a good education to be had at the modern school if you wanted it. I for one just took what I wanted from it, to Read, write and add up which had done me ok over time.
Anyway Gary stay lucky till next time.
Susan - The 'Further Resources GGS staff 1953 ' link at the top right of this page gives names for that date. You might be able to get something from that. Not that I could!
Thanks Bill - I too cannot find many staff who appear on both pictures but I suppose some of the 1940 GGS staff were 'wartime only'.
My time at GGS was 1963-69 and my contemporaries were Jacquie Sammon from Swinefleet Rd, Christine Walker, Jeanette Fellows and Christine Fish.
I have put another school picture on my blog [ I have lots to identify] but am hopeful that I shall quickly get some names as the picture is of a winning boys' football team at Alexandra St school season 1967/68.
Does any one remember my grandama Mrs(Lily) Page who was dinner lady at Pasture Road school in the 1950. I was born and lived at 33 Oxford Road for a short while and rember the horse trough at the top of Oxford Road. My late dad Kenneth Page worked on the railways in Goole, I think as a shunter. My uncle Cliff Hensby, worked for the police force stationed in Goole. I got my interest in railways from a very young age,from watching the late afternoon ,early evening fish trains ,rattling south bound through Goole station, with the distinctive fish smell. Any memories?
Susan, on that 1940 picture of the GGS staff, I think the lady 2 places to Latimer's right might be Miss Coghlin. She taught me English and was our form mistress for Class 1A in 1960-61.
Geoffrey Page. I started at Pasture Road School in 1948. I do not remember your Grandma, Mrs Lily Page, but I do remember there was a boy at school called Brian Hensby whose father was a policeman. The only member of staff I can remember is the Headmistress, Miss Cranitch. She lived across the road from the school in the row of houses between Midwoods and the shops near
Colonels Walk. From Pasture Road School I went to Boothferry Road and then, when the new Kingsway School opened, I transferred to Alexandra Street.
I've just found this website while browsing and it's good to see some of the posts. Hello particularly to David Teed, Fiona Moate, Mandy Appleyard and David England who were in the same year as me and also to Brian Sunderland. I too remember with fondness Mr Teed's leadership. His comment once in an assembly about knowledge - something about it's not being able to know everything but it is knowing where to obtain the information and how you use it that matters - it's a long time ago so has got a bit lost in translation. Anyway, I have always found this helpful. I also remember Ian McEllhinney and how he calmly told a boy that he might accept his argument if he could justify why he thought something was a load of 'rubbish' (not the word he used but I don't want to offend anyone). My only personal criticism of education 30 years ago was that we didn't have proper grammar lessons as well as creative writing at either primary or secondary stage. The emphasis was on what we wrote rather than the way we wrote it and I think we should have had a balance of the two.
Bye for now
hi gerald i also started pasture road school in 1948 so i shoud know you i lived right across the road from the playground - i could not remember miss cradich but i asked mum who is 104 years old and she remembers her - you mentioned the shops before colonals walk can you remember the corner one was run by two sisters called annie and minie may i had a look at pasture road on google street view looks a lot different from when i left goole in 1958 but its great to keep up to date on this brilliant web site
Yes Helen I agree about the grammar. Mine isn't too good, I live with an English graduate who did get to learn it properly & he is always pulling me up.
My memory of Mr Teed is him completely losing it during the School production of Joseph in our 4th year. He would have been suspended now...how times have changed.
Hi Fiona - it looks as though you've had a rough time with your health - I hope you're fully recovered now.
Alexandra St football team
Since my last post I have been given some names for the team picture I mentioned.
They are Alex st football team 1967-68 and were possibly runners up in the Short cup
Standing, left to right are Philip Bristow, Paul Adams, ? Howard, Stephen Cross, Russell Noon, ? Terry Spavin , Ken Punter .
Front Mal? Gibson, Tony Proctor, Christopher Jackson, Rob Clark, Brian Marshall
Some of the identifications were not very certain. Are they right?
I took a bit to recover but I am fine now. Hope to see you at a further reunion!
I can't believe it's two months now since the last contribution to this wonderful site. In response to Helen and Fiona's comments regarding education, maybe to a significant degree they are largely valid, but I'd just like to put on record the teachings of Mrs GREENSITT at the Modern School, '67/'68, which was my time in the 4th year. My grammar's still not great but what she taught me in a creative writing sense has never left me. A little belated perhaps but to Mrs GREENSITT, "thankyou".
I remember Mrs Greensitt & her obsession with the library classifications of Melville Dewey. I also remember her referring to first years as uncooked cakes....all sorts of ingredients waiting to go in the oven to be formed into the final cake. An interesting analogy which I have remembered for 40 years!
40 years eh, Fiona. We must be of similar vintage. I always remember Mrs Greensitt cycling though the town and her cheery "Hello!" whenever she saw me. I left Goole in '69 and returned to visit after 7 years in Australia. Mrs Greensitt called out "Hello" to me as though I'd never been away. I had longer hair and a beard in '76, but she still recognized me. What do you suppose her Christian name is?
Gary, you are older than me I think.....!
I think her name was Elizabeth, my Dad who played rugger with the Greensitts called her Bessie. Think they must all be dead now. It's odd when you are a schoolchild, you don't think of some of the teachers as being "real" people with lives outside the school.
Hello everyone, was at GGS from 63-69...wonderful reading all of this...helps keep the memory sharp, having to dredge back so far.. I was home in Goole this past April to visit my family, been 10 years since my last visit. The school looks the same from the outside. As for Goole? hasn't really changed that much. Anyhow!! Hello to everyone I went to school with or knew my family.
Hi there. So glad I have found this site. Many memories have been brought back to me, although not many people from my era at GGS. Beginning in 1950, a redheaded tearaway, answering teachers back. I now realise I really was a terror. Still they managed to teach me. Leaving school a year early because of illness I took no exams, but still maintain that at GGS I had the chance of the best education Yorkshire could offer me. Really do wish I had taken advantage of it. Years later though when 60 I did enter for the GCE English and got a grade B. So Miss Coghlin must have had patience with me. My only brother Alan started at the school 10 years after in 1970. Some of you may have k nown him from Alexandra nursery, infants and juniors. Alan did very well at GGS, but sadly died aged 60 in 2009. I am married to Edward Audas who lived at Richardson Electical shop on the forner of Pasture Rd. and Red Lion St. We are now retired and live in Benidorm Spain. Anyone who remembers me, Alan or Eddie, please get in touch.
I knew Alan, he and I were in the same classes. He was a nice boy, he started in 1960, didn't he? I'm sorry to hear he died.
Helen Hoir were you related to Lynn and gale who lived in elsie street with brother ronnie they were close family friends of my mothers side of the family the stocks 5 brothers five sisters only five left nowthree still live in Goole Derek May and ruby Two in York. Myself live in Manchester and Resigna(Latvia) with my wife. left goole in 1971 to join RAF left in 86 graduated and became college lecturer.
To Sue Pinkerton. Yes Sue Alan did start in 1960 not 1970. My excuse for being wrong is old age and too much sun. Although he died young. Alan had a really enjoyable life and I was extremely surprised at the amount of friends who came to his funeral. Some of them still in touch with me. Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate them
Hi Tom - yes, I was married to their cousin Kim who also lived in Elsie Street and who is the son of 'Tricker' and Mary. I will find out about Lynne, Ronnie and Gail for you.
Hi again Tom - in answer to your question about Lynne and Gail, Ronnie Hoier's sisters. Lynne had health problems several years ago but she is fine now as far as we know and will be around retiring age. Ron and Alice are now in their 80's but I'm not sure if they still live in Elsie Street. Sadly, Gail died about 10 years ago at quite a young age.
i lived across the road from the hoirers in elsie street for a lot of years and no they nolonger live down there. what a great street it was . the gills,robinsons ,obriens,coolegs,fenwicks,knights,mcreas,longfields,johnsons,hudsons .to name but a few familys that i grew up with .fond memorys by for now
Gerald Brooksbank. Brian Hensby was my cousin. Son of Don and Nellie Hensby. Don was not in the police force, that was my dad - Cliff. Don worked, I think, as an administrator in the mining industry at Doncaster where they eventually lived.They also had a daughter whose name eludes me at the moment.
Peter Daniels - looking for anyone who remembered a Peter Daniels in Goole, father Wallace Daniels, Mother Olga Daniels. Probably born soon after 1952. I am a relative trying to find him as my mother never knew him and she was the daughter of his father from his deceased first wife. So his half sister. We would all like to try and find him to see if he wants to be contacted as my mother is very ill and would like to see him before it is too late. They never met.
Any knowledge of his present contact details or past history that may lead us to him would be most welcome.
Many thanks to all who read this message
Thanks for the update Helen At last someone who I know please pass on my best wishes to all.
are you out there john howard or yarbo
havent been here for a while....shocked to hear about geff sayers - last i saw him was 3-4 years ago on a train at clapham junction with a load of CD's he had just bought from tower records (now gone) in piccadilly circus that he was really excited about. He was great in those plays. Also thanks to those who made kind comments about my father peter teed - I do think he ran a good and progressive ship way back then in as was said challenging times. He is now 87 and fell and smashed his hip recently but is now out of hospital and I will pass on these comments
With reference to Pete Daniels, I'm afraid he died several years ago. We met his parents and they told me he was working for an oil company in Scotland at the time, it was a long term health problem. He had married but I don't know where his wife is living.
May I wish Mr Teed a full and speedy recovery?
Following my years at GGS (1962-67), though I do recall Dr Latimer, it is Mr Teed that I will always remember as the Headmaster. Specific stand-out memories are surprisingly few; I think that the key is the environment that he created - it wasn't noticeable because it worked. He allowed us freedom to disagree and trusted us, even to the extent that he lent a trio of us his car to pick-up blocks of expanded polystyrene from the factory in Howden. But there were limits to his trust, as we discovered when we rearranged the furniture in the Senior Sixth Common Room: "Move that sofa! I'll not risk, one day, finding a couple of you copulating behind it!"
I value too the lessons in the responsibilities of power, when as Head Prefect, I had to report the indiscipline and disruption from one of the younger boys. Mr Teed asked me how the boy should be punished: "I can cane him. But do you think it will do him any good?"
And that infamous production of Hamlet - I can add another anecdote to that of Roy Mapplebeck (Laertes) - late in the rehearsals, he suddenly exploded, violently throwing the book onto the stage floor and demanding to know why we hadn't learned our lines yet. The shock, coming from one so calm, certainly had impact (after all I can still remember after 46 years), but not entirely successful - I was miserable throughout the performances due to my difficulty in remembering my lines..... But a memorable production with Geoffrey Sayers as Hamlet, Gillian Ford as Ophelia, Stephen Hoier as Polonius, John Wraith as The Ghost, John Gibson in a bravura performance as the Gravedigger and Colin Graves as the Prince of Denmark but with a sword, not a cricket bat.
Finally, what a great web-site! I only discovered it yesterday when, following an e-mail dispute with my older brother, John (GGS 1962-63), about the spelling of Mr Chappell's name (we were both wrong), I thought I'd take a look on Google Maps to see if the old school was still there, and a little research threw-up all these comments from old school friends. But tinged with sadness to hear of the passing of chums - David Laverack RIP.
Richard Ardern ("Claude")
Hi there everyone! I've only just found this site and am enjoying re-living the old memories. I was at Boothferry Road for just one year before moving to GGS in September 1959 where I stayed until 1966. I too remember the Roman Banquet and the sheets! I also remember Nora Charlton's trips to Hadrians Wall which were brilliant but it always seemed to rain when we were there - also remember going to Barnard castle and High Force.
I am trying to get in touch with John Wraith as we were in e-mail contact for some time but I believe that he had problems with 'hacking' and may have changed his e-address. If anyone knows his new address or if you read this, John, please get in contact again.
It was sad to read about the deaths of old school buddies and acquaintances but great to read Richard Greenfield is still alive and kicking. Not even a banger in a bottle could stop you mate!
does anyone remember what year Alexander Street Schhol Closed, and what year it was demolished?
Just found this site & spent quite a few hours reading all the comments. A wonderful trip down memory lane. Especially reading the comments from Gail & Janet. I was trying to find anything from Rose Watson (now Banham). As the rest of our contempories have now reached or are approaching 60, she is in the wonderful position of only celebrating her 15th birthday next week. Oh! if only!! I went to Pasture Rd infant school & taught by Mrs England, Miss Watson & Mrs Hutchinson (the wife of Hutch at GGS). Then to Alexandra St with Miss Brown (I thought she was quite sweet but that was her last year of teaching), Mrs Caldicott, Mrs Gunson and "Pop" Craven. He was a great character & a brilliant teacher. Remember also Mr Wood but cannot recall him singing. I used to visit the other classes to collect for the Lantern Appeal. Started at GGS in 1963 with Hutch as our form master and maths teacher. A great bloke & very funny. I recall many of the teachers there with fondness & respect but one or two should have chosen a different vocation. My all-time favourite has to be Mr Ferriman. A brilliant teacher & form master.
To Rickoh ~ Alexandra Street school closed at the end of the summer term in 1990. I believe it was demolished shortly afterwards when work commenced on the development of Wesley Square. I can recall building work being undertaken when I visited my dad in Hook and there were shops on site by the time he died at the end of 1992.
To all my friends on here lol. too many to mention but tom i remember goole harriers lol..what fun we had.. and mally stuart did not tell me anything untill the very last.. what a brave lad.. hey anyway i have not been on for a long while because i had another op.. but im fine touch wood, hope everyone is ok..yes i live nr melbourne..lol..its next door to me.
take care everyone.
I found this page a few years ago and only rediscovered it yesterday when there had been a lot more added. I came across the entry from Alasdair Brown. He was a colleague of mine in the early 70s and we worked together on a number of productions. I remember the Noh play - Kagekiyo - which involved my eviscerating the school's baby grand (all in the best possible taste.
I hope I didn't upset too many people during my time in Goole. I've made a couple of brief visits there over the years, including taking my chldren to see where I used to work and live. Perhaps I'll be able to do the same for my grand-daughter sometime.
I viewed the comments from Davids Teed and England with particular interest. David E: I believe that (and how's this for a coincidence) you were hitch-hiking once and were given a lift by my ex-brother-in-law? David T: your dad gave me my first teaching job for which I was grateful. Please pass on my good wishes.
Goole was good to me but I moved on, first to Northumberland where both my children were born, thence to Leicestershire. I'm now semi-retired and live in south London working part time as an adult education tutor, occasional composer and would-be academic.
Good luck to you all.
With reference to Pete Daniels.
The Pete Daniels that Richard Greenfield mentioned is not the one that jane naumkin is looking for.
He was the son of Jack and Harriet Daniels.
His wife and his two children and two granchildren live in Aberdeen.
Sorry about that, it wasn't intentional or clear regarding where Pete came from.
Its also nice to hear Phil Barker is alive and kicking also. Did you become a teacher ! You missed the last ( I think ) class renunion at the Vikings. Very interesting ! Dave Hinks was there - a teacher. Kevin Doran was there - a headmaster , as his father. Jane Shipley was there as gorgeous as ever and remarkably unchanged ( in my eyes ), also a teacher and Bill Scarr working in a large international bank ( the least said the better ) not about him but regarding the dubious practices of banks. I suspect the alcohol got the better of me, hopefully with the minimal of personal embarassment but expect not. Jane Shipley after initial contact tried to avoid me all evening ! Dave Hinks was alright, he chatted up my wife Diane all night !
I went to school with Pete Daniels but he came fromn the Hessle area as travelled on the train every morning
Perhaps I should be posting this in the family history section, but, for the record, I believe there were no less than three Peter Daniels born in Goole.
According to the GRO birth index, the son of Wallace Daniels and Olga Ridgway was born in 1949 (birth registered as Peter W Daniels) and he had a sister, Patricia, born in 1948.
Wallace and Olga did not marry until 1952, but both births were registered as Daniels.
There doesn't appear to be a death registered before then for Olga's first husband, Joseph Henry Smith, so they may have divorced.
There were two Peter Daniels born in 1953 - one to Jack Daniels and Harriet (nee Jackson), and the other (I think) to Kenneth Daniels and Joan (nee Cawkwell).
The one born to Jack & Harriet Daniels was my brother.
I have a dreadful old photo of Polo's brother and me in our back yard in Percy St.
I don't know which of the other two Peters travelled by train from Hessle.
It seems lots of us finished as teachers Richard. I went into special ed. working with children with challenging behaviours. Not suprising as i guess our behaviour at school was quite challenging at times. Would have liked to have seen some of the old faces but I have been living in France for the last 10 years and it was a bit far to come.Still you probably drank enough for me as well. Still in contact with Dennis Wilburn and we still gig together when he visits. Also got Terry Broughton coming over this summer.Not seen him since 1974 so got a bit to talk about.Best regards to you and your family.
while at kingsway school .i will aways remember
a lad putting a straw in a ink well and blowing his face covered
in ink.and the teacher mr crowley made him go to morning assembly does eny body know his name
happy times nursery beside alex;
To Richard Greenfield - Are you the same Richard Greenfield that I went to Kingsway School with? You mentioned a school reunion with David Hinks who I remember too. If you are the same RG then you will recall the year we won the interschools football trophy with you as Captain. I have recently obtained a copy from the Goole Times recounting our win at Victoria Pleasure Grounds as I wanted to include it in my autobiography (only about 20 years in the writing!) but well remember the semi finals as I managed to score 2 of the 3 goals against Alexandra Street School. The first match was a 3-3 draw after extra time but the following week we won 3-2 to get us into the final. Alexandra Street had Colin Todd in their team but we had Jimmy Mann - both went on to play professionally.
Arthur Kendall. You were a school friend of Barry Spink. Was this at G.G.S.
Arthur Kendall and I were school friends, we lived quite near to each other and we both left school at the same time to embark on a technical career. In both our cases this meant going away from home to live and work in a strange place.
Alot of school children that were educated at GGS did this.
Hope life is treating you well in Spain and that you are not too badly affected by the problems with the Euro.
Cross country running brings back happy memories for me (GGS 1950-55) as my father had the garage at the top of Airmyn Crossing. This became a pit stop for me and my classmates to take in a packet of crisps and lemonade before continuing to Boothferry Bridge and back to school. American cream soda was the in lemonade at that time. Bill Foster was the gym teacher until replaced by Pag Glew (initials being PAG)
I haven't read the news for a while-still lots of memories.I was in Goole in April and do wish they would tidy up the building site in front of GGS-such a good looking building-I think there were flower beds in my time!Still in Manila,and sort of semi retired!I gave up my headship in march,but now give some time to a very poor Muslim school,teaching IB English in a High School,and English in the university-here we don't really stop!I had hoped to read the newspaper and walk the dog-ah well,one day,perhaps.Great to see my old pal Roy Mapplebeck-he looked so well!
the lad who put a straw in a ink well and blew covering his face
in ink and was sent to morning assembly.
was doggy owen
Boothferry Road School 1960-1966 Goole High School 1966-1971
I too have fond memories of cross country running,( or lack of it) by calling home en route, later re-joining the field & sometimes in the lead.
Mr Walker(English) Mr Salmon (Commerce) are the teachers at GHS I remember the most.
It's been good to read all the comments, Where have the years gone to?
did doggy owen have a brother Sisco?
The series of letters about Goole in the Guardian continues. Someone on Saturday wrote that "Myrtle Park primary school in Bingley was twinned with one in Goole in the 1950s, presumably to help Goolies learn how real West Riding folk lived." Well, I remember that as a pen-friend arrangement, rather than a formal "twinning", with Boothferry Road School in the late 1950s. We wrote to them, they wrote back to us, we visited Bingley once (their school, houses and buildings seemed more grimy than ours), and they visited us. My pen friend was called Martin Unwin.
A few more 'Goole' letters from The Guardian.
At least 10 years before the Humber Bridge was built, the late Christopher Rowe wrote an entertaining, informative song about its absence (How we made ... The Humber Bridge, G2, 18 September). It is thought to be the only song to mention Goole – the chorus ends "Do we have to keep on going round by Goole?". There are several versions on YouTube.
Until I read about the presence of my home town, Goole, in the last line of a song about the Humber Bridge (Letters, 21 September), I had thought that its only claim to serious cultural fame was that it is the location of the theatre in the chaotic final act of Michael Frayn's great play, Noises Off.
Sorry to disappoint Gavin Bryars and his fellow Goolies (Letters, 25 September), but my 2000 edition of Michael Frayn's Noises Off sets the last act of the play not in their home town but in the Municipal Theatre, Stockton-on-Tees.
Theatre by the Lake, Keswick, Cumbria
You must have lost touch with your Manchester roots as Goole's importance is shown in the wonderful decor at the front of Manchester Victoria station (Letters, 26 September). Goole is among the capital cities of Europe displayed around the canopy at the front of the station.
• Let's not forget "from Goole in Yorkshire, the Humber and District Catholic River-Wideners' Club", participants in the silly noises quiz on Monty Python's Previous Record.
The inspector who calls in JB Priestley's play is named Goole (Letters, 27 September). His investigations into the apparent death of a woman expose hypocrisy at the heart of the ostensibly respectable entrepreneurial classes. He's later discovered not to have existed. Thousands of young people will have studied this play for GCSE. Ironically, the subtext is "we're all in this together".
In the 1950s, schoolchildren in Goole (Letters, 29 September) knew this piece of doggerel: "When I died and to heaven did go, / 'Where did you come from?' they wanted to know. / When I said Goole, how the angels did stare / 'Come in,' said St Peter. 'You're the first one from there.'"
•  Though it may not be as pretty as its name suggests, Goole, where I grew up, did rate a listing in The Meaning of Liff, Douglas Adams and John Lloyd's dictionary of placename meanings. Oddly enough, Goole = the pool of beer the barman puts your change in, is followed immediately by Gweek = a car aerial made from a bent wire coat hanger.
Lest the citizens of Goole get too proud of their exclusive status (Letters, 2 October), I must remind them of the story of a soul originating in Yorkshire (in the version I know, from Brighouse), who, after interrogation by St Peter, was allowed in. But with the caveat: "Think on. We don't make Yorkshire puddings just for one."
• Goole, my childhood town, was once twinned with Gibraltar: perhaps because of an obstinate refusal to cede from the West to the East Riding, with which it shared a border, then the first bridging point on the Humber-Ouse river.
John Wraith are you the same J Wraith who was a member of Goole Harriers as a young lad. I was also a member of the club. Along with Norman Prentice and John Slater. The late cliff glasby as coach. I two am teaching only Manchester not Manilla although ask me if id swap and I would need time to think it over, thought about it and yes I would swap yesterday.
Left Goole in 1971 for the RAF until 1986 then Uni and teaching. still running abiet very slowly these days.
Anyone remember Pasture Rd School teachers , Headmistress Miss Cranitch, Miss Fell , Miss Fell (round the corner) any more
Evacuated from Edmonton London in 1944 aged 5 and lived for 9 months with the Skelton family at White City Airmyn. Attended Boothferry Road School during this time and kept in touch with Skelton family and descendents for 60 years. Went to school each day with Suzie Cooper but now too old to remember much else, but do keep a photo of the school.
Anyone remember the Youth Club at the rear of the Grammar School 1973 - 1975. Great times.
barrie, I hope that you are enjoying the onset of winter weather and all are ok. Margaret (nee hockny,brickley and now Audas) is often looking at dresses with white spots on a blue background also navy blue and amber paterns on. I keep telling her she can not look younger by looking back . Boy , has she a longway to look back. I gave a lot of photst of the ymca and goole to a lady who used to cook sausages there, she has a stall selling ladies undies in the market. It would be the fiftys when I took them. Regards from Very sunny Benidorm , Please do not send too much rain over here as we have the med outside our balcony and that is plenty thanks.
I remember the Youth Club, though I didn't go much as I never really liked Pop music until Punk arrived & then I was on my way to art school.
What I do remember was the very distinctive weird smell in there. I am sure all the Motown would come flooding back if I were to smell it again?
Any one else remember that smell? Anyone have any idea what caused it?
Fiona, the only explanation I would have for the aroma in the Youth Club would be that it was hormones/testosterones from the youth of the day!
It was my mum's funeral last week, and I was delighted (if that's the right word) that Cynthia Potter managed to get there. At 78, she is not as agile as she was but still in reasonably good health. I had a long chat with her, and was impressed at how much she still cares for children's education.
She mentioned that Nora Charlton is still going strong, too.
So sorry to hear about your Mum David.
Can any one remember what the Houses were called at Goole High School, I went there in 1971 prior to the schools in Goole becoming comprehensive. I can't remember the names at all. Were there any?
When it was GGS I recall (possibly incorrectly) that the House names were Norman, Windsor, Stuart and Tudor
Yes Bill that's correct. I was in Windsor '54 - '59.
The GSM school house names were Lincoln, Durham, York and Chester.
Yes I know the houses at GGS as I eventually went there, I was in Norman.
What I want to know is if anyone on here went to Goole High School in 1971-3 before Goole became comprehensive & everyone went to GGS. I hated the High School, those two years were possibly the worst I have ever had to endure. Bullying, poor teaching, feeling of uselessness & failure.
This trauma maybe has led to me forgetting what house I was in, if indeed there were houses. Can anyone there at the same time help?
Bit confused now. Didn't GGS become the High School. Or was the High School somewhere else. I was at GGS 59-67 and then moved from Goole, so please excuse my ignorance.
I'm struggling with Fiona's response as well Bill, did GGS become GHS before it became Vermuyden or did GSMS become GHS before everybody transferred across the road GGS. Perhaps Fiona will enlighten us.
Maybe somebody can provide a time line for all the changes in name that have occured to the secondary schools in Goole
GGS became Vemuyden, now known as Goole High School. GSM School became Goole High School prior to GGS becoming comprehensive, now known as Goole College of Education if this helps.
When I failed my 11+ in 1971 I ended up at GSM which had then been called Goole High School. When the area became comprehensive in 1974 everyone was transferred to GGS, which was still called GGS, even though it was a comprehensive school when I left in 1978.
What I wanted to know was if anyone went to GHH at this time & could remember if there were houses? I know there were at GGS but I cannot remember any at GHH.
I'm struggling now where does GHH come in.
They should have flattened the Modern school when I left in 68. I hated the place.
Yes it has come back to me now. i think I was in Chester.
I agree with the previous poster it was a terrible school, would have been closed down these days....poorly qualified teachers, boring teaching methods, poor facilities & a huge feeling of failure just walking through the gate on the first dat.
Fiona, where does GHH come from on one of your previous posts. Also, I posted the names of the houses at GSM School on 30/12/12, did these not jog your memory.
Sorry I think GHH was a typo I meant GHS. Thanks for putting those up....you jogged my memory. When were you at the school?
i WAS ALSO ONE OF THOSE UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GO THROUGH GOOLE SEC MODERN BETWEEN 1960 65 SOME OF THE TEACHERS WERE GOOD OTHERS A WASTE OF SPACE. I WAS CONSIDERED NOT WORTH THE EDUCATION IN A LOW FORM 3 AND 4 F. HOWEVER ITS NOW GOOD TO LOOK BACK AND REALISE HOW WRONG THEY WERE. AN HONOURS DEGREE AND PGCE ALONG WITH MANY OTHER SPORTS COACHING QUALS AND RELATED QUALS AND QUAL TEACHER IS PROOF OF THE INADEQUATE TEACHING ONCE HELD THERE AND LACK OF INSPIRATIONAL TEACHERS TO UNDERLINE THE IMPORTANCE THAT SUCH A SCHOOL SHOULD NEVER GRACE THE AREA AGAIN. IF OFSTED EXISTED THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED IN VERY SPECIAL MEASURES
Mr. Richardson (headmaster from the late 60's) was my grandad! :)
The head during my time I believe was called Patterson I dont recall your grandad although their was a Woodwork teacher by the name of Richardson I think.
Mr Richardson was the headmaster at Kingsway Primary School when I was there 1967-71.
I agree about Goole Modern School/High School. It would have been in special measures if not closed up! I was bullied there very badly & the school wouldn't do anything about it at all. Some of the staff joined in with the kids in bullying me too. I wasted two years of education there.
I also have a degree, post graduate degree & a PGCE. One thing it did do was show one how not to treat students in your care there after.
Hello Fiona. I have watched your posts for some time with interest. i was sorry to read of your treatment at the modern School. My education there was in all a good one. However I went there by default. As I spent six years there.I was already there in form 1b when I should have been sitting my 11 +The following year was spent in 1a then 2a,3a,4a. It has been only in recent years that I have learnt what went on in those far off days.I was not the only one that was not allowed to sit the eleven plus. It was deemed by the education authorities that children of one parent families especialy those of Labourers and the like.would not be able to afford the School uniform if succeeding in passing the 11+ I am living proof. I was not unique. But have no regrets.You have to play the cards dealt in this life.Some teachers used the cane far too much .These are the only ones that I remember their names. But My English teacher was excellent. That good in fact I cannot remember his name He spent a great deal of time explaining good verse
One piece in particular is imprinted in my memory bank "the value of a good name"from Othello act 1 scene1.I have lived my life ,As have my children and grand children Using these words as a guideline.So all these mailings how GSM was a bad school. Think on
Hello, well after reading some of the comments I'm pleased it wasn't just me who thought the Modern school was near on a complete waste of time. Apart from a few teachers who did do their best, ie, Jos England, David Seven, Mr Oliver and God bless him Les Setterington the rest were just there for the power trip I think. I'd had enough by the time I was 14 and not long after I "just walked out" for good, got myself a full time job, and it was six weeks before they missed me ! Patterson was the so called headmaster who summoned me back to the school I don't know about anyone else but the little erk reminds me of Captain Mainwaring, lol. Got there and the reception party were present along side Patterson, the matron, Mrs Greensitt, mousey Evans and some bloke from the careers office, all firing questions so I just stood back and let them get on with it. They said I couldn't leave because I didn't have a job, no mention of not being fifteen ? I remember Patterson jumping up and down like a boxer dog and banging his fist on the desk to show some power no doubt. Anyway eventually the matron threw a green stamp card at me and Patterson said "get out and don't think I'll be giving you a reference either" I'd had enough of this clap trap and I turned and walked out, no doubt to them another complete failure going into the unknown. Still I recon over the years that have done more than they would ever do between them, I made a good career for myself, been around the world a few times, worked in some fantastic locations and met some great people and earned a tidy few quid aswell. I can honestly say with no thanks to the Modern school regime. I wonder if any of them thought we could have taught better ? It was they who failed us not the other way around.
Things must have changed a lot since I attended GSM School, reading the above posts. I left in 1955, admittedly there were one or two badish teachers but there are in all schools. All in all I found most were very good . The headmaster was Mr Rowse who kept a tight hand , a teacher already mentioned Mr Oliver was a great favourite, along with Charlie Greensides, Pop Northey, Birdy Fell, etc etc. So really I have'nt any problems with this school.
Hello Keith.I left in 1949.Mr. Rouse became headmaster taking over from Mr. Firth Of the two Mr. Firth gained respect.without the tight reign. Mr. Northey.Fell and Greenside were,in my opinion excellent teachers.But needed to cane for control.Other teachers did not need to resort to this level.Being caned was no big deal anyway. The pain was shortlived.Its just a shame that frustration took over when they were unable to get their point across with certain individuals
When I started there in the September of 1971 it was called the High School & the staff must already have been aware that big changes in education were afoot locally. In hind sight having worked in education myself for over twenty-five years I suspect the place was a bit direction-less. There were some good committed staff, but many of the attitudes & teaching were becoming dated. I remember Mrs Greensitt, Mr Townend & Mr Settrington as being good. Mrs Greensitt was a bit scary but I can still remember her "Library" lessons. The English teacher Mr Watson was very uninspiring & talked about the Germans & the war every session; unfortunately he also made the journey to GGS after the schools became comprehensive, but he mentioned the war less then.
I remember some incidents: A cookery teacher getting a 12 year old girl to relight the oven when she could smell gas, the girl was thrown across the room by the blast & lost her eyebrows. A science teacher making boys sample dilute hydrochloric acid. Unbelievable today, but it really happened.
The worst things for me were the obvious disappointment & anger of my family when I didn't go to the Grammar School & the terrible feeling of a closing door. The future was housewife, office worker, factory worker or SEN. Thank goodness the schools did become comprehensive. My problem is that I have dyscalculia.
Hello Fiona Discalculia. A new one on me.I know of dislexia for my good friend Derek Cutts of Airmyn suffered badly with it and faired badly at the SMS.however after serving an apprenticeship at the Shipyard.He had a complete carreer change when he became a sculptor.In later years he has works on some cruise ships. The Costa Concordia .I joked fell over because of his huge rotatating Glitter ball in the Ballroom.
The first indication I can remember of me not sitting my 11+ Came about in my second year in 1A.When Charlie Greenside was telling the story of the boy who went home and told his parents what the Equator was.He was told by teacher it was an imaginary Line going around the Earth. He told his parents.(and this is where Charlie stopped and looked at me. Saying, Bunting, as you heard this tale last year .Tell them the ending)
I stood up and said It is a Menagerie Lion running around the world
Attended ggs 63-69 never left the area been a plough jockey all this time just discovered tinternet.I would love to hear from any of the gang from the D form of that era. What happened to Tank Collins alegend in his own detention.Met Bazza.just after the Falklands war trust Baz to look for a scrap.
just found this wonderful page . dennis wilburn have you still got that blue strat must be worth some brass now .god bless sticky happy days rhesus negative forever what happened to scouse Allen worst bass player ever give us a call
sallyanne do you remember the summer of 68
Gosh, is this the same angelic Graham Cowling that I remember from Howden Minister choir? He was always a star treble.
sorry David England i was not the chorrister more your fag smoking cricket and rugby nut from Rawcliffe.By the way Mike Coldwell and Bob Fletcher best teachers by far in my years at ggs closely followed by dear old Ellis Postill and Tony Heath great sports masters certainly shaped my long career in senior league cricket
I'm dying to know who you really are cos I think you were at school the same era as myself
WHO THe f.... barkam i.m the real person maybe the vodka has dulled my brain but where are ferrimans class of 68 yr not all dead but bless sticky and fordy surely smone knows where ali brown neil robbo duckitt and sheila hodgson are
jeez just remembered andy banham what a flanker shame he went to the states oh god ady lee alf davis robbie balcam chas richardson ges rollinson bertie baines at prop what a pack shame we re all 60 now great memories
c mon u lot my brain is in top[ gear mason wakey tads elaine ellis mary burkill janet thornton where are u now pete hardy mally richardson ive had had my battle with big c ok now let meknow what you ve done
I'm sure I remember a teacher at Alex who was called Miss Hall and after marrying became Mrs Orange, anyone else remember her, I was there from 1960-1964.
Mr Craven was a brilliant teacher who had also taught my dad, does anyone know how old he was when he was teaching us?
Love this site, it brings back so many memories now I'm approching my gulp '60's
Last night I dreamt not of Manderley but of Goole. I was back in Mr Ferriman's English Lit class (room 14?) and at the beginning of Junior VI (1963). Anyone out there enjoy his lessons as much as I did? I haven't looked at this website for a year or so and have spent a happy hour this evening catching up. Glad to hear of the longevity of Cynthia Potter and Norah Charlton. Is Bill Petch still with us? He was an inspirational teacher.
Mr Craven must have seen the error of is ways in his latter years . I remember him belting me all around the classroom for something I had'nt done.
Heard on grapevine Mike Caldwell no longert with us . Anybody confirm or deny. Mike was the best. Coached me personally at cricket then would give me a detention usually for being a prat.Great man manager.
Hello Mr. Cowling, great guy Mick Coldwell. He used to give me and your cousin Howard a fag and a beer when he played cricket for Airmyn. Then would check my breath all week at school to see if i had been smoking. Dennis Wilburn's blue strat was actually a WEM 22.I have been living in france for 10 years and Dennis often calls on his way to Spain and normally we play a gig or two. The band name is 39 Years After. Don't know what happened to Snecky but yes he was the worst bassist i have ever heard. He knew all the right notes but not in the right order or with any rhythm. Best wishes to you and family.
Hi everyone. Just been passed this site by phil barker. Memory permitting, I'll answer a few things I've seen:
Dave (Snecky) Allen committed suicide in, I think, 1990, in Peterborough.
Sticky Bostock was one of the best drummers I ever played with.
Lynne Barker, blonde and pretty
Graham Cowling bought my Vox Stroller electric guitar, and still owes me 2 shillings and 6 pence. Yes Graham, it was a Watkins Rapier 22 in Ice Blue. I now do have a Fender Strat in Ice Blue - a very different animal, and worth a bit.
Peter Litherland Teed, a progressive man after our previous head-man Latimer. I remember when I went into senior sixth he decided that everyone in their last year should be a prefect - so I refused it. He insisted, so I wore the badge under my jacket lapel.
Rhesus Negative - wow, what a memory that is.
Arnold Chappel and Ellis Postill - between them they excluded me from school in 1970, but when I met Arnie at our reunion, all he said was 'My Dennis - how are you?' I know I was a big disappointment to him, and I liked him a lot.
Arnie was a big disappointment to me.... the dinnertime he caught us supping in the Vikings. He marched us straight back to school and refused to le me finish my pint. Mind you it was probably Watney's red barrel or some other 'pisse d'an'
Just a quick hello to Phil Barker after reading with great interest your comments which evoked many a memory from 30 and more years ago. Do you remember the gig at Goole Grammer round about 75-77 I think. You was on lead guitar and I played piano which if you remember was nothing portable but my own upright Joanna from home. I had to transport it by van then haul it into the school .. Do the gig then back home with the heavy "beast" which you can appreciate was well out of tune by the end of the night. I remember we did Tom Robinson "2 4 6 8" and also the stones " under my thumb" which immediately springs to mind . Hope you are doing well Phil. Jez from 55 Oxford road
Hello Jez, nice to hear from another musician. Unfortunately it was not me on lead guitar as I had left Goole. I think it must have been my cousin Martyn Barker. You can check him out on youtube.My last gig around Goole was at the Blacksmith's Arms in Hook with Dennis Wilburn on lead and Geoff Laverack on drums. It was around 1970. We played in the annex a under the name Forgery as it was the Blacksmith's.
I was there from 1961-1965 leaving half way through the year to emigrate to South Africa where I have been ever since. Yes I also attended Gwalia Preparatory School and I hated it with a passion - and its effect on me has never gone. I remember whilst I was at the grammar school that I was 'madly' in love with two Senior Sixers and we used to place ourselves strategically along the corridors to catch a glimpse of them. I wonder what ever happened to them - Dave Houghton and Steve Gibson. At the tender age of 16 Steve was even going to emigrate to SA to be with me. Ah, young love! I am now Headmistress of a local girls high school.
What I did want to ask is does anyone have a photo of the school hat that we used to have to wear? No-one has yet been able to produce one.
Does anyone know the whereabouts of Sheila Woodcock? I think she was a Goole Grammar school pupil in the 1950s and was later my English teacher at Snaith Secondary.
I went to GGS from 1950 to 1955 and I am sure that sheila Woodcock was in our year
I was at GGS with Sheila and she lived on Marshfield Rd, near to where I lived in Edinburgh St. I met her again at the GGS 50 years reunion, and for some reason I seem to recall she lived in Canada. I cannot be 100% sure, as there were a few ex-pupils that had come from the other side of the Atlantic. Rod Lumley I would think may have details , as he organised the reunion. I believe his brother still lives in Goole, you may be able to find him. Ask Barry Spink if he knows where Rod is,he may know. I met another ex-pupil from our year two weeks ago when I was asked to interview his 102 year old mum, who left her council house after 74 years!!
Hi Mavis and lady looking for Rod Lumley s Email it is rod lumley <email@example.com>
I heard from him not too long ago
To Phil ward
Sheila Woodcock became Sheila Wheeler and her Email is Sheila Wheeler <firstname.lastname@example.org>, I have found this from documentation in my filing cabinet, it will be a few years out of date now. I had a Christmas email from Rod Lumley in 2010 and sheila was on his mailing list but have not heard from him since. Of course we are getting on, our year will be in their 74s now
and good to hear from you all
Barrie P spink
Many thanks for making the effort to locate Sheila. I have tried the email address and will see what happens.
I remember very well Sheila Woodcock, one of my 'B stream' classmates at GGS. In 1955, when we were all preparing to escape, she told me I was foolish to go into engineering, as I had earned a modicum of approval for my essays; "You should be a reporter or something", she cautioned. Instead I became a Technical Author in the electricity supply industry. Great to see your name also, Mavis Vines, another friend from that era. Happy days sometimes, though I never felt safe smiling in the presence of John Leonard Latimer, The Boss.
To Ann Richardson - I was at GGS from 1959 to 1966 and was also at Gwalia Preparatory School until it was closed - Miss Rhodes was so scary but I did learn a lot. I do have a photo of me somewhere in the GGS 'pork pie' hat. I think it was taken on my first day. I remember that they were very unflattering and as we moved through the school they were placed further and further back on the head, sometimes held on with grips! When could we stop wearing them - was it fifth form? Would love to hear from old classmates.
Sheila Woodcock, now Wheeler, responded to my email. She lives in the USA. She once gave me an A for my English homework. I cheated by adapting a story from the Wizard comic. I eventually became a photo-journalist and publish my own international monthly magazine.
am looking for albert blee we was in miss hall class in 1984
Nice to see Arthur Kendall's name. I was always frightened at GGS, mostly it was the bullies though. It was one of my biggest tormentors that I came across when the East Riding Council asked me to interview his mother. I suspected who it might be when I arrived to meet the mother. Anyway the son said he could not remember me, but I jogged his memory a bit, and hopefully made him feel bad, but I did not say anything outright , in case it upset his mother. I bet he got a shock when he realised who had come to do the interview!! Anyway nice to see your name Arthur. We are getting fewer and fewer
Anyone remember mr evans at goole high school in the 70,s I was in his class with Neil Sunderland , Martin Clark , Nicola Stanley , Maureen Lyons just to name a few. Would like to hear from anyone from that era
John Evans was a form teacher and PE teacher during the early 60's. Then Goole Secondary Modern School. I was there from 60 to 65. He had the distinction of playing in a teacher verus school at hockey and unfortunatly smashed a ball straight into a girls face breaking her jaw. That was the end of staff v pupils. John laughed when I said I wanted to be a PE teacher I was then in the second lowest form in the school. Love to meet him today. I have retired from teaching having spent 27 years as a PE teacher and 16 years in the RAF as a PTI. Nice guy but terrible school.
Tom /Gypsey , i love both your posts . Your spot on about the modern school a total waste of time . Do you remember a Mr Legott who took art ( in the prefabs ),he used to give us all something to paint then he used to go to sleep by resting his head on the top of the desk . Bet Sheila (nee Parkin ) remembers that.
To BS, 29/1/13 - I do remember Mrs Orange, but I'd forgotten she was Miss Hall. She was tall and thin with a deep voice. I thought Michael Orange, who was in my class, was her brother. Must have been her brother-in-law. There was another Orange who was in the army and died in Northern Ireland. I'd never met him, and don't know his name, but I worked with his best mate, here in Australia.
I always thought Pop Craven had stepped out of a Charles Dickens novel to teach us. But he was indeed brilliant! Despite having had books, chalk, even board rubbers, anything that happened to be in his hand at the time, thrown at me for the henious crime of whispering to the bloke next to me, I have always had fond memories of him. I don't know how old he was, he always looked the same age. I know he used to enjoy a pint down the British legion, which wasn't far from where he lived.
Leggot a man who was more than a waste of space he took up valuable breathing space as well. As a teacher of more than 25 years I would be ashamed if anyone mentioned that man in the same breath. Not only did he fall asleep at the desk but used to hide his cigerettes inside the desk lifting the lid to smoke behind it. He enjoyed hitting lads at the back of the head. Miss Thompson was our form teacher in the first year. She was a lady ahead of her time(an inspirational teacher) imagination and creativity were brilliant, considering the facilities available to her. She suddenly announced she was leaving to get married. A huge suprise to everyone at the time. The Biology teacher(Name forgotten) was also a good teacher. I believe the school is now a college.
Ok Tom i just love the way youve described him, that was brilliant & now youve said it i remember him having a smoke under the desk lid too. Now Tom what about further down the prefabs in the domestic science . Miss Evans was her & Legott an item !!!!!. If so the saying "love is blind comes to mind " The science teacher you were thinking of ,was it Lugs Brant ?not sure Have a think Tom
Hi Dave sorry friend but my memory is not what it used to be. I find it hard to image anyone having a romantic link with that individual(Leggot) I do spend a lot of my time fishing these days and every time I put a maggot on my hook I think laggot not maggot. So close and so alike. I remember the prefabs and the domestic one about half way down I think. But the names are a distant memory, just some stick for good and bad reasons. That period was for me not a very happy time and for good reasons chose to put it to rest. Some people I remember were Geoff Naylor, Malcolm Eyre, Brian Smith, Peter Daniels and a girl I was crazy about Stephanie Lovitt and that's about as much as I can recall
Hello Phil Ward, are you the same Philip Ward that used to live in Gowdall?
Tom I remember Stephanie really well . I bumped into her years later when i was at Doncaster Tech College i think she told me she was going on a nursing course ( not sure ) In the end prefab wasnt there a teacher called Mrs Pascoe ?
Hi Dave Mrs Pascoe good grief I can see her face now. Amazing I would never have remembered the name and more amazing she comes to mind. With regard to Stephanie. I remember she wanted to become a nurse but I do believe an unexpected family addition put an end to it at that time. I have since been trying to remember names of people at school(secondary modern) pupils and staff but nothing is coming to mind. In the class was a Brian Smith, Peter Daniels a girl called Crampton, a jean but second name cannot remember, a lad called Hill and that's about it.
Ok Tom ive had a long long think ,here goes . Teachers, was there also in the prefabs a Mrs Macallistar ,a Mrs Jenkinson who came from Hook ? a Mr Reaveley (nicknamed Chisel ) who was in the prefabs at Newport St side who along with Mr Richardson also took woodwork . Mr Oliver who took metalwork . Tom did you live down Kent Road am i right ? as i lived down Elm Avenue . In our year at school, pupils , Jim Sugden Susan Andrew Mary Robinson Sheila Parkin Tony Proctor Maggie Charlesworth & that Tom is without raking through all the boxes in our back bedroom to find a school photo LOL .
All the names above remember lasses well;Got to be time for next reunion get you lads out dad dancing any decent venues?
Dave I remember the metal work and woodwork teachers but only one pupil name Shelia Parkin but why I have no idea. I remember a French teacher very young and married Geoff Naylor If I am correct. I think he was seeing her on the QT Imagine if that was today, what would have happened. I worked at a Music School in London in the early 90's (Purcell Music School as Head of PE, and I now live a stones throw from Cheethams Music School, recently in the news as a teacher was sent to prison for his dealings with some of the students. The same happened at Purcell with the head of Strings and a pupil, he just got the sack, How things change!!
I remember Mrs Naylor for French are you saying she was married to a pupil?
Well this time Tom youve remembered more then me . I cant even remember the french teacher or the other dealings !!!you mention either . Since ive been in contact with you Tom every day i try to remember things like the sweet shop in Newport St & the back lane at the side of it ,where all the smokers used to go . I mean were doing well to remember all we are doing . Were going back almost 50yrs . But although ive not lived in Goole for 30yrs i still get The Goole Times every week .
Was there also a teacher called Mr Houghton ( plump guy with a bald head ) who took Tech Drawing too Tom ?
Sorry Dave TECH DRAWING WAS NOT ONE OF MY SUBJECTS, in fact not many subjects were my strong points. I was what some may call a late developer(very late) mid 30's to be accurate, still better late than never. Someone once described me as a has been(football) My reply was better to be a has been than a never was. The sweet shop, pineapple cubes and coca cola cubes in a bag for 3 pence(Old). Smokers lane. Do you remember the white line down the centre of the sports field girls one side boys the other. They(The staff) obviously never ventured over to the bowling green toilets. I remember getting the cane on my first morning by Harry Cutler for going in the Quadrangle. My first thoughts were what the hell is a quadrangle rubbing my stinging hand. Lining up in the play ground on the whistle. British bulldog. Foul school diners. Milk and a haliboringe capsule. Ink monitor or milk monitor. Never a prefect, not high enough. Won a prize for citizenship from Ernest Ried, could never figure out what I had done, but still got the book, a dictionary by Nelson 50 years old. I believe the school is now Goole college. My late father was the caretaker at the Grammar school back in the 80's when Mr Tead was headmaster. remember the two schools finished 30 minutes apart so we did not meet out on the main road. Why is beyond me. School dances with a record player playing the same three records over and over. The night has a thousand eyes.
Dancing instead of PE arrrgh. Non Nobis domini or No Hovis tonight as we would sing. Now I am struggling so will quit while ahead
Tom you've deffo remembered more then me there mate lol
Wow that lot stirs the mind so I'll add a few more names, Minni Miles, taught french along with Miss Finch and Miss Morris, A weird guy called Sykes did music, Mr Salmon taught commerce Mrs Whittaker taught art, Mr Ford tought science and I recon fancied Miss Finch !! Mrs Lawson who made everyone stand still whilst she went across the playground to the feeding troughs, then there were a few more "teachers" who just turned up for a warm I think. Most of them could have done better in my view save for Messers England, Seven, Oliver and Splutts who were straight blokes. I remember girls called Steph Walker, Shiela Morritt, Wendy Moore, Trudi Dodsworth, Val Howard, Jeryl Ward, Joan Kirk, Ann Joyner and Susan Barker. There must be loads more can anyone else add to the list ?
David Greenfield - are you the David Greenfield who lived in Elm Avenue?
Reckon he did live on Elm Ave, because he said so a few posts ago
Yes i was brought up down Elm Avenue
I remember the music teacher Mr Sykes. I began what was then Goole High School in September 1971 & even at 11/12 I realised something wasn't quite usual about him. Children were much more naive then than they are today. Someone will be able to confirm that he left the school rather rapidly & a report appeared in a subsequent Goole Times.......
I attended the Modern School from1945 to 1949
In that time there were two Music teachers.Mr. Dunhill who was a very good teacher .He took the time to go from pupil to pupil whilst singing. to advice and also listen to make sure the right words were being sang.
Then Mrs Triggs took over.A quiet lady of a nervous disposition.Often the wrong words would be heard over the correct ones. On the whole though I believe my education at that school was more than adiquate
Very interested that you mention a Mrs Triggs as that is my surname. My mother I believe taught at the Modern School prior to 1945 but did not return there until September 1948 when I was nearly 4 and could start at Boothferry Road Infants a year early. She was primarily a P.E teacher but may also have taken needlework/English/Drama etc but I don't recall her being involved with singing although she could play the piano.It is not a common name and is unlikely there is another Mrs Triggs. What surprised me is your description of "quiet lady of nervous disposition" which she certainly wasn't.Coming from "Pettican" stock that is not a trait that would apply to any of the family .
Hello again Paul.The date fits for I was in 4a in my last year.I would describe your mother as slender with fairish hair and she wore specs. She was treated with less kindness by the class in general. compared with Mr. Dunhill who was overbearing.I also remember her as a pianist. Please understand that I mean no disrespect to your mother. also understand the job that she was in where most of the pupils towered over her. Which may have been quite daunting.My own Granddaughter is a teacher at a London school.Believe me that is a worry
As for being of Pettican stock. They are on my tree. Charlie Pettican(London)married my aunt Jane.They had a daughter Mary. Jane later married Walter ( Buster) Hattersley. Do these names ring any bells?
I do appreciate you were not speaking with disrepect of my mother and that your comments were your recollection of your time at the Modern School. She taught at the school until 1954 and then we moved to Hull where she taught at various schools in Hull, South Hunsley and Anlaby. The Pettican names you mention I don't recognise.I have to confess that I can't rememember my Grandmother's name but my grandfather was Samuel,"sammy" who i believe had Irish roots.Their children were Alice,Laura,Ada,Kitty and my mother Ethel with brothers,George and Claude.Don't know if these names are relevant to your family tree? I'm not aware of a London connection.
OK Paul. whilst a member of the local hisory group I penned many of my childhood memories About my schooling I stated that the only teachers that I remembered were the ones that caned me.your mother being the exeption for I never saw her cane anyone.MR Moody and Mr. Fell used lightwieght canes.Which smarted for a short while.Mr. Greensides and Mr. Northey used what appeared to be Walking sticks.but Mr Averey once used a steel rule. Which landed him in trouble from a very irate mother.But my worst expirience was from Mr. Rousethe head who replaced Mr. Firth.I was called to his office where he and a Police officer carried out an interogation about a missing bicycle pump. My name had been put forward as the culprit.I was totally innocent.although I suffered this bullying from these two individuals. It left me with a huge mistrust of the Police and anyone in authority
The two Pettican families were not related
also going back to the great "Bombs dropped on Goole "debate Shortly afterwards I recieved an email from Ed Pollard to say he and is brother saw the bombs drop from their back door in Mountpleasant looking towards MendipIt was travelling left to right (East to West) Their mum got them under the kitchen table .but, he also heard the strafing later, Which I did not
Hi Fiona Moate, Pleased someone else thought Mr Sykes was a bit odd to say the least !! but as you say most kids then weren't as aware or street wise as they are today. Didn't know that he headlined in the Goole Times though, but not surprising. I remember he always seemed to be in a rush but only took little "girly" steps which struck me as odd even then. He once came running up the path to the prefab class room loaded down with books just being able to see over the top and as he went around the corner a lad called Bongo stuck his foot out and Syksey ended up sprawled on the floor with books everywhere...... no one laughed obviously.!!
Gypsey. I remember him saying "Semi briefs not ladies briefs" once & he had a wobbly chin like a pelican. Wonder what became of him.
i rember mr sykes he was my form teacher in form 1 39 and 2 39 back in 1970 ish
Oh someone s mentioned Mr Greensides. How could I forget him!!! Was his first name Charlie?Did he live on Centenary Rd ?He once hit me that hard he left 5 finger marks on my leg.I remember after that little incident my dad walking into school in his boiler suit & asking him to step outside with him but he declined my dads invite . But he never hit me again.
Apologies for previous mail it was not Mr, Avery But Mr. Reveley ,Metal work teacher who use a steel rule
Reaveley i always thought he had a look of Adolf Hitler about him ( small tache ) his nickname was "chisel " ) am i right ?
When I attended the Secondary Modern school in the 1950s Mr Oliver was the metalwork teacher , and Mr Reaverly was the woodwork teacher.
Keith, you are right Mr Oliver was the metal work teacher and a really good one at that, he taught me a lot which has stood me in good stead over the years, plus he used to take a few of us fishing to the Newport canal in his old Dormobile van. The other bloke, Reevely aka "Chisel" was housed in the brick class rooms on the Newport Street side and thought alot about himself, would have passed for a German officer any day, didn't like him one bit.
Yes Gypsey, your correct Mr Oliver was a great teacher I went fishing with him also. I often wonder if he's still around, as for Mr Reaverly I don't really think he liked kids !
So, It appears I got it wrong.mixing up the two teachers.Mr. Oliver does not ring any bells.But I cannot remember the name of the most interesting teacher ,the English teacher.Anyone tell me his name?
I have always maintained that it is easy to remember the names of the ones who dished out punishment
Perhaps the steel rule made me think Mr. Revely taught Metalwork .Considering I spent the whole of my working life in Wood. I should have known who introduced me to it
Hi Corby, Possibly Mr Richardson taught you woodwork as he was also a woodwork teacher. Mr Greensides taught English along with Mr Peter Daunford-May ( if that's the correct spelling) Mr C B Fell taught maths, Mr E B Fell science' Mr F Baker art, Mr Windle and Campbell PT, Mr Thorpe music, History/Scripture ?all When I attended GSMS
Hello Keith .I spent five years at the school.I was installed in 1b for the first yearWhen I should have been sitting my 11plus.This never happened.I was not alone in this great injustice. Many were considered "Not Grammar School material.My second year I spent in 1a when Charlie Greensides (then a Geography teacher) brought my attention to the fact that I was going over what I had learnt in the previous year Followed by 2a,3aand finally 4a. Like I have said before. My education was adiquate.I simply was unfortunate to be in a situation where I was in a one parent family.My Dad was a docker.So he like many others would not be able to afford a Grammar School uniform I know others had the chance of resitting.But as far as I am aware I did not have this option.Again, I have no regrets
Hi Corby, Yes I understand what you are saying . Quite a few of my classmates including myself were in a similar situation
Gooday Corby Bunting! What a great name! You may or may not know me and your name doesn't ring a bell with me, but if you know all those girls you mentioned (5/7), and Bongo (16/7) you were probably my vintage. I was in C grade all through the 4 years I was at the "Modern" school. Jeryl Ward (lovely girl) had a friend, Christine Johnson who emigrated to Perth in late '68. I lived there for a year myself in '78 but never ran into her. Christine had another good friend Lynn somebody, who was always made by the teachers to put her hem down; and the next day she'd rock up to school with the hem back up again. Wendy Moore went with Steph Farrar (who was the first kid I spoke to when I started Pasture Road when I was still only 4) when I knew her. I sat next to Sheila Morritt in 2nd year. Then in '76 bumped into her in a beer keller in Berlin. Her husband seemed none too pleased. Delia Smith was also in my class, though she looked a lot different on the telly (joking of course). She had a friend, Jillian Duffy (I think). If you knew Val Howard you may remember her friend, Susan Littlefield.
I'm looking at a class photo now (presided over by Josh England) and the only other names I remember are Joan Critchley, Barbara Morton, Janet Whiteley and Pamela Laycock. Let me know if you're interested in the boys names, I remember most of them.
That's what happens when you read so many messages on this site, you get the names mixed up. The previous message is of course for Gipsey, though I still think Corby Bunting is a great name. Any relation to Jimmy?
Hi Gary,The Jmmy you are referring too I think may be the son of my cousin Jimmy1920 Young Jimmy born 1952. I left Goole in 1957 so I do not remember him.although I have been in touch with his sister Jean and once spoke to his wife Brenda My name has always been a problem for others. I was christened Corbett after a Grand uncle who appears to be the only one who made good. for there are many named after him.Whilst at School I was known as Corby.Then when I started work my boss said"Too hard to remember You are now Bert".I joined the RAF and became Bill.This name stuck all my working life.although I have been called worse many times.Only Family,and close friends now use Corby.
Hi Gary Masterman nice to see your still reading the Goole web site. The girls names you and "Gypsey" came up with are real memory joggers. The Lynne you refer to I recon was Lynne Christopher an attractive blonde haired girl if my memory serves me well with nice legs too. Ironic you bumping into Sheila Morritt in Berlin have a feeling she was stationed over there in the RAF, very nice girl. I Left school and worked for both Joan Kirk's dad and brother along with Jeryl Wards dad. There was another girl in our year called Hillary Fields from Adlingfleet and I ended up working with her dad too. Mr Oliver was a great bloke when he went out of the metal work room I would get busy making a knife or a sword or some other implement in secret until he came back, but he had a knack of letting me get it nearly finished then telling me to destroy it !! to this day it always amazes me how he knew I was upto no good, ha ha.Those days are long gone now Gary but the memories are still there. Hopefully someone else will put a few more names and memories up before too long, it would be nice to hear from some of the girls. Anyway mate stay lucky till next time. Polo
...And contributors to this site, apparently, eh CORBY. Yes, you do have a few years on me. Had you been born just 20 years ago with that name I have no doubt you would have been destined for the EPL, or show bussines, or the Arts or something. Jimmy, born in 1952, would most definately be the Jimmy I was referring to. I didn't know him all that well but he was in my year at school.
Great to hear from you again POLO. Lynn Christopher of course. Thanks for remembering her name for me. Wasn't she originally from Scunthorpe? I suppose she did have nice legs but I can't say I was too fond of her at school. But, having said that, I ran into her once in Goole in '73 or maybe '76 and she was very charming on that occasion. Another girl I remember was a friend of Janet Whiteley's, Susan Rutter. At least I think it was Susan. Hilary Fields eh! I was looking at this pretty girl in the school photo, trying to remember her name. I think now that that was her. And, I don't believe now that "Duffy" was Jillian's name, I think it was "Duffin". Yes, it would be nice if a few of those girls were to drop a line onto this site, eh. Thanks for the prompt reply guys, now where do you suppose that Gipsy bloke's got to?
Oh, and yes, Polo, Mr Oliver was a great bloke. Never saw him angry. He, more than once, advised me to get into the catering trade, on account that as I was always the last one to leave the canteen he and he would catch me re-setting the table. I never did get into catering, but I still seem to be cleaning up after everyone. He was out of the classroom one time when I seized the opportunity to drill a hole through a sixpence. Well, the shrill squeal the noise made was heard by dogs in Newport Street, and in no time at all Mr Oliver was standing right behind me, with an almost affectionate smile on his face. Great bloke.
Glad I have rediscovered this site. Seen the latest posts of Mavis Vines and Barrie Spink, old classmates of mine. Barrie I am not 74 yet. although most of you all. As I write this on 6/8/13, I have another 7 days to go. Also if she is still with us Joan Hislop has another 2 days. I think we were the youngest of that year. I would be pleased to hear from anyone who remembers me. email email@example.com. Now living in Benidorm where my friends are in no doubt where I come from. I have a mobility scooter on which is attached a number plate with Margaret Goole. on. So anyone in Benidorm that see me, well speak.
Hi Gary. I have three GooleTimes clippings of the classes at the Modern School
The first is the girls class of 1950. Al born in 1938 .My wife being one of them.
The girls class all born 1935 where three of my cousins feature .Jean Holliday, ,Mavis Thompson and Mary Pettican The boys class also all born 1938 in which my good friend Derek Cutts is present Derek served an apprenticeship as a plumber at the Shipyard.But later attended the royal college of Art Becoming a world famousSculptor all his work is in Stainless Steel and also Kinetic See his website under George Cutts, Sculptor.I believe that he could have been a good proffesional cyclist.How good he was is that he took part in the club mountain trial on a fixed wheel track bike.where others had multi gear cycles. He was close up at the finish One final note is that he worked with others at the shipyard in close contact with Asbestos. Two of my mates who were also there passed away form Asbestosis.Pete Raspin Raspin and less than a year ago Pete Walker.
So, how lucky is Derek?
To Gary Masterman.
Yes it was Sue Rutter from old goole like myself along with Carol Palmer,Bernice Bradshaw just a few more for you to remember and I remember Sue Littlefield & Val Howard also how you doing these days still in aussie I see
Hi Corby! Was your cousin, Mary any relation to John Pettican, born in '52 or 53? He was a good mate of mine at school. Yes, Dave Barkham! I'm still in Ausse. Hope you are well these days. I'm still in Melbourne enduring the cold wet climate of winter at the moment, not like you guys, sunning yourself in sub-tropical Yorkshire, or so it seems at the moment. Did I read earlier you were in Ireland, or was that someone else? I can't put a face to Carol Palmer, though I do remember the name. As for Bernice Bradshaw, well, she was just too good looking to even talk to. Take care, mate!
Yes your right I am in Southern Ireland been here just over 5 years now and as you say been enjoying the good weather(which is unusual over here its usually raining)I'm surprised you cant remember Carol as her and Bernice were always together at school,good reading all the comments on here brings back some good memories doesnt it.
Hi Gary I have recently realized that there was another Pettican in Goole John was not related to me
Derek Cutts was living in Airmyn at the same time as me. My dad had the garage at the top of Airmyn Crossing. Derek once came in to reduce the bore of a pistol in order to fire .22 bullets. Dangerous times in the early 50's. Later he did some modelling work and appeared on an advert for cigarettes. Was it Players on b&w TV? I had holidays with Pete Raspin (another biker) and Maureen. I still see her now and again.
I remember Derek Cutts with a hand gun sitting on the steps at Goole Modern School playground in the 50s . This was around the time of the Craig shooting. Watched Corby's video on Derek , would never have recognised him.
I belive the Handgun incident was a natural progression from Bows and Arrows. He came around to my house with it one day.Anxious to try it out. we walked some distancein the country. before he pointed it in the air and pulled the trigger. We were both looking in the opposite direction when this happened.I never saw it after then
We were both in the wheelers at that time. with our friends John Appleyard,Pete Raspin,Dave Simpson.50 years later Derek and I had a mini reunion at John's house in Nafferton Followed by a huge reunion shortly afterwards 65 turned up in Hook. Pete was not present but his wife Maureen was. Dave passed away a few weeks later and Petes sister Maureen Now John is very poorly.I have many photos of my old friends.But Derek is well and continues to work.
Did Derek marry a princess of a small island group. Yes it was Players he advertised and I seem to remember he modelled sweaters also. He was a very good looking lad in his younger days too. All this is sounding a bit like this is your life Derek Cutts !!
hhmm have you looked at all the 34 Modern Scool pics I put on here.. Im sure john Peticon is on there some where and Bernice ... theres Col Walker.. Steve Coop.. Mally Smith ..me lol..and a load of others.
HHHmmm just looked I gave 34 pics here but there not all on anyone who is interested in the photos my email is firstname.lastname@example.org and stop laughing.
I got the class photos you sent me a couple of years ago, which I still cherish. These include the one that Mum wouldn't buy 'cause my hair was too long, would you believe. My best mates at the time, John Pettican and Steven Rice are in it, which is great. Guys at work pick me out every time. Obviously, I haven't changed much. Thanks again, Pete.
Hi all, I'm looking for Keith Scott and Michael Smith who attended Goole Secondary Modern School with me in the late 50's and early 60's........how ya doin' guys?
For Ann Jenkinson-I remember coming to your house for tea-Marshfield Road?You had plaits on top of your head,and the wicked witch used to pull them!Never to be forgotten-our parents just did not understand the anguish we went through at Gwalia Preparatory School!I am interested we both ended up in education,all the same!Do e-mail me on email@example.com
I left Goole in 1968 and am now nr London, I attended Boothferry road infants / junior school to 1959 then on to the Secondary Modern leaving in early 1964 if I remember rightly my last form was 4c with form teachers 'Dog' Watson and Mr Reid-Smith who was a Mayor off Goole at or near that time.
I would dearly love to hear from anyone who may remember me, my nickname was 'plug' much to my disgust! Also anyone with any photographs of that period especially any of class 4c if any still exists.
my email is firstname.lastname@example.org
To Dennis Roar
ie I would also like to get in touch with Kieth ie Scottie and Mike smith ie Snuttsey ,my name is Mick Smith ie Smuttsey we were in the same class ,I am in touch with Dennis Roe and was in touch with Dave Holden but he passed away I think early this year.
I lived at Greenawn childrens home , boothferry rd .other names I remember Pete dootson. Bob Strachan , Col Wilson ,I left school in 1961 and moved to York another lad I remember was Eddie Whitley .They were good days
Hi Malc, I believe Bob Strachan died many years ago.
To Lynn El Amery & Elsie Street Hill.
I recognised your name Lynn & would love to know who Elsie is. I remember the others you mentioned Tank, Fanny etc.
I also remember Elizabeth Newbury & Linda Wheldrake in the girls. I think our first domestic science lesson with Miss Holland was how to make cocoa & scrambled eggs. I used to travel on the train from Brough to Goole with Ann Derrick, Wendy Gadd & Wendy Hope. When we were a bit older I used to stay with Elizabeth, so we could go to the Paradise club. Happy days I have only just found this site so hope you read this.
Hello Graham Cowling. I am still alive and doing ok despite being an official OAP! Have many fond memories of our time at GGS when we were all young with no responsibilities. It does not seem that long ago that we were all at school. So, where do the years go? Now it is our music that is played on "Sing Something Simple". Quite scary.
I have retired from nursing now & spending my time 'SKI ing' (Spending the Kids Inheritance) with lots of holidays. Great fun!
To Elaine Elson
We were at GGS at the same time and I recall all the names you mentioned. But like you, have no idea who Elsie St Hill is. Maybe someone can enlighten us.
Elsie Street is local and has a raised, grassy area which the residents used to call the Hill. I used to live there for some of the time I was at Goole Grammar...a stone's throw...a lifetime ago..
Remember dancing with you in the gym, Elaine and with Wendy Hope too on those snow days...The er, Gay Gordon and the Valeta? spelling? Cynth and Postill in the dance-off...chuckle...
You girls are all retiring now and good luck to you. I still have three years left to work. Bus pass soon though...fond memories and warm regards from a distance....
To Shelia Hodgson & Elsie St. Hill. -- Glad to hear from you both. I too will officially become an OAP !!!!! in March, where does the time go? I still work 2 days a week & have no intention of retiring gracefully. Elsie are your initials DC ? If so I believe I once stayed at your house for the Xmas dance. All that practicing in the gym didn't go to waste.
Wendy Hope left GGS about 1966 & moved to Rochdale. I went to visit her & joined the local Rochdale gang of MODS, we thought we were the bees knees !. On my last day at GGS I remember swapping my pork pie hat for Denis Wilburns' cap.
I hope we can keep swapping memories, as I need all the ones I can get, must be my age. Take care Elaine
Hello Elaine & 'Elsie St Hill'
Great to hear from you and to hear of your memories. Still so vivid in our minds yet the mirror tells a different story. Or maybe it is just reduced standards in their manufacturing processes!!! I remember well the little hill in Elsie St but the only person I remember living there was Rose Watson. She is now the only one in our peer group who can honestly say that she is still a teenager. That is the benefit of being born on Feb 29th.
To Elsie St Hill
Think I know who you are now. When scrolling through earlier comments, you mentioned that you were also in 4A at Alexandra St and then I remembered who also lived on Elsie St. If I am not mistaken, you lived in one of the early numbers on the right. (Think Elaine was mistaken with DC) Did you see the photograph in the Goole Times last April of our form? It was in the 'Back in Time' section. The GT obviously placed the photo in the wrong section because we are not that old, are we?
Identity aside...I remember Rose Watson and even the oddity of her Leap-year day birthday. I was in Pop Craven's class with her at Alex I think. She had a brother called Roland who was a great character, motor bike mad he was.
Anyone of our age group at GGS will remember a lovely fella Steve (Sticky) Bostock. We met again one night in the 70's and had cracking night in the beer tent at Old Goole Gala. He kipped at mine. I remember the sadness when I heard of his death a few short years later...more soon...
PS. I left Goole well over 30 years ago...
dose anyone remember a lad called cris kilvington who went to goole modern school around 1970 to 1974 and what happend to him
To Elsie & Shelia. Yes I remember Stephen Bostock I think he was friends with Gareth Hayward, who I sat with when we went on a trip to the Blue John mine ( I think ) Did either of you go ? Correct me if I'm wrong. Elsie - still cannot think who you are will need more clues please. I think the DC I was thinking of lived maybe Carter or Dunhill Street . I guess from the timeline on your comments you either live a considerable distance away or work shifts.!!!! regards Elaine
Well, Elaine, you are a proper Hetty Wainthropp P.I. aren't you...tee hee. Keep it to yourself though, please, Elaine, if you work it out. It isn't that important. Been away too long...
Gaz Heywood was my best friend...miss the guy very much, to this day...
....I remember in the early 70's a group of us lads went for a week to Torquay. We were trying to get in a club, late on. At the top of some staircase it was. I was grabbed from behind by a big doorman who recognised me....guess who that was....Dave (Tank) Collins. Took us in and bought the first round...great guy..,
I always remember the tiered, sloping floor in Gerry's classroom 4B & 5B. Many a happy double maths in there eh? Phew! If I'm honest, I've never forgiven Pythagoras for having a bloody theorem! E=MC squared too. You seen one nuclear war, you seen 'em all....
That's maths sorted then. Now, for English, I seem to recall a lady teacher with an American twang...Miss Gibson. Think we may have called her Ma Gibson. She was sweet and defenceless, so we took advantage. We let her read to us, her beloved Gerald Durrell stories. You know, about the animals...yes, Friday afternoons were a doddle, leaning on elbows, gazing through glass.......something must have sunk in though, you know. I have always tried to be careful with my punctuation...
Eats shoots and leaves
To Elsie & Elaine
Remember Steve Bostock (Sticky) very well. His untimely death was tragic. Remember also Gareth Haywood & Tank Collins. He was certainly the right build for a doorman. His cousin Dennis was also in our form at Alexandra St, Elsie. Not sure what happened to him though. Your memory serves you well, as Rose did have an older brother called Roland.
I did not do the trip to the Blue John, Elaine but I remember a photo of that trip in the school magazine. In fact, I think you were in it.
Like you Elsie, I moved from Goole over 40 years ago when I commenced my nurse training. Married someone from outside of the area and his job meant that we moved around the UK, Holland & Germany before eventually returning to Yorkshire and settling in Harrogate. Moved on since then but looking at going back there. Still have family & friends in Goole and it was through them that I heard about the 4A class photo in the Goole Times.
Ah, Sheila. You were in the A stream then? That's why I couldn't place you in our class. I'm sure our lot were the last to be ABCD divided. Thereafter they were in House names weren't they? We had a little joke in the second form.....2B or not 2B, that is the question....groan...I'll get me coat....
To Sheila Hodgson.
Me too Sheila - I couldn't picture you in our class. You must have been in same class as Wendy Gadd from Brough - she had ( still has hopefully ) really white blond hair.
to Someone or Else. Your secret is safe with me - very safe as I still haven't got a clue. Enjoying this puzzle & keep trying to picture all the boys in our class but to no avail. I was really sorry to find out about Steve & Gareth but not much news filters through to Brough & I still don't live that far away now, bought a house in Thailand but didn't make it permanently. l I have also lost a few friends far too early, so sadly 2 more to add to the list. On a lighter note - were you ever the lucky recipient of the dreaded blackboard rubber ? I'm sure Gareth & Tank were on numerous occasions but I think we wimpy girls just used to get a piece of chalk. To be continued
Hi Elaine & Elsie
Crossed wires here, I think. I was in the D stream at GGS with Sticky Bostock & Anne Derrick. You and I were in 4A at Alexandra St Juniors, Elsie and that is the class photo I was referring to.
I have had lunch today with a childhood friend and her mum from Goole, so when I took them home, I had a drive around Elsie St 'Hill' just for you. In this changing world, you will be pleased to know that it has not changed a bit since our childhood. My friend told me that in the town Library there are year books for GGS with all our class photos. So, may have to pay a visit there when I return from holiday. Could be a nice trip down Memory Lane.
Yes Elsie, we were the last to be streamed throughout our schooldays. The year below were streamed for the 1st year and then placed in House Forms. Therefore, you were the last form ever to be able to deliver your quote. Something for the history books!!
Never received the chalk but many of the boys did, as well as the blackboard rubber. The teachers aim was brilliant. They all had the skill of making the offending item whizz past the ear without ever making bodily contact. Our best punishment was from 'Boiler ' Wright who gave the entire class 100 lines for laughing. That was 3 lines each and 4 lines for a few others. That made us laugh even more!!
To Stuart, Webmaster. No offence intended, I assure you. Have you thought of migrating and upgrading this whole collection to a Facebook group page? I think you could gather a lot more interest if you did. It does what it does, yes, but it is very slow. You may not get an answer for weeks when a post is made. I am in a few Facebook groups ( I'm sure we all are ), and stuff flashes up every second including photos. Just saying.
To Who Else - I am sure I can picture you now, if I have the right person was you hair a reddish colour & did you also hang around with Dennis Wilburn ?
No, I think that was David Wraith. A brilliant runner, by the way.
To Else - yes you are right you obviously have many more brain cells left than I have. - I could not think of his first name. Oh well back to the drawing board. I'll put my thinking cap on & send a list of all the names I can remember perhaps you will be on it!!!!. Do you recall our French teacher Mme. Wright? Very tiny lady who insisted on us rolling our 'rs ', which caused great hilarity. I also recall a teacher called Mrs Rennie who I think was Estonian & possibly taught German, but am not sure. I think she had a son at GGS but older than us. A bientot
To Sheila Hodgson . Was there a girl called Elaine Ellis in your class ? I remember her but not which stream she was in. Do you remember a girl I was friends with called Rosemary Beaumont from Rawcliffe Bridge, haven't seen her since 1969. Elsie may remember her as well she was definitely in B stream. I still think about playing hockey in the freezing cold, with those shorts on & our bumble bee yellow jumpers. I preferred netball in the summer, but don't recall being very good at it !!!
Am enjoying these "chats " it's nice to share memories. Elaine
Other girls in our class...yes, Rosemary Beaumont, Linda Broderick, Susan Harrison, Julia Whitfield as well as the ones mentioned earlier.
Mrs Rinne did teach German I think and had two sons Peter and Paul who were our seniors. Both Prefects I suppose...
Didn't Miss Scurrah (Brenda) teach German as well?
Hi Elaine & Elsie
Yes, Elaine Ellis was in our form but left in the 4th year. I remember all the names you mentioned. The girls from our shared double games or junior school, and the boys from our 'dance' lessons in adverse weather. Certainly preferred the dancing~ even if it was only the Gay Gordons or Military 2 Step~ to playing hockey in the freezing cold.
Apart from Anne & Elaine, the girls in our form were Mary Burkhill, Jill Fullwod, Sally Anne Richardson, Janet Theaker & Janet Thornton. (We were very much out-numbered by the boys)
Will be out of touch now until March but will be back on the site on our return. Going 'SKI'ing (spending the kids inheritance)
Yes Miss Scurrah (Brenda) taught French and German. I also remember that she went on a Sabbatical and came back to teach Russian. Clever woman.
To Elaine. Tee hee...you mentioned a few posts back that you swapped headgear with Dennis on the day you left school. You said on a more recent post re: Hetty Wainthropp P.I. that you would have to put on your thinking cap. Who's cap will you be wearing then?
To Sheila Enjoy your spending spree !!!!!
To Elsie - Probably one of those pointy ones with a D on the front. Sadly cannot remember what happened to DWs' cap. Another thing to think about. You mentioned Susan Harrison - years after leaving GGS I worked with someone who had married her ( SH ) brother. She lived in a small village near Saltmarshe I think, in a railway crossing house. Still trying to engage brain cells so will chat later
Miss Scurrah was a clever woman indeed. But she suffered mercilessly at the hands of Class1D. Not known for their sophisticated wit, they erupted into hoots of laughter when Brenda accidentally wrote 'Wee' instead of 'We' on the blackboard.
Hi Bill. Imagine the confusion in 1D if Brenda had written "Oui!", on t' black boored. Stands by for incoming....
We all loved Brenda. She was a charmer.
Anyone remember the art and pottery teacher, Mike Tomlin? Now he was a breath of fresh air and very sort of new-age in his approach to teaching...the very Litmus test opposite to that Scottish fella behind the art room divide. Angus Turner...?
Hi all, I'm still looking for Keith Scott and Michael Smith, they attended Goole Secondary Modern until 1961
To Who Else but .... Might you be ( or have been ) tall dark & handsome ? If not I'll just run through all the names I can remember. You are right about the Rinnie ?? boys - one of them was a bit of a heartthrob I think, the other one was quieter. Was it Mrs Williams that had her hair in little coils above her ears. If so I remember her telling us she was a Quaker & explaining about her religion, we used to her office in small groups. On the new art teacher note - why do you think all the girls suddenly got interested in Pottery??. He made a welcome change from Angus. Still working on the puzzle. Elaine
I've been pondering your idendity for some time now Elsie but you say you were given the slipper by Ellis Postill , well that narrows it down to about 5000 . What was it ,last one in the showers gets
it? Wasn't Mrs Rozenbrook a great first form teacher Elaine ? I remember you girls having a collection for her at the end of the year to buy her a present. she had to get the handkerchief out.
Hi Elaine and Sir Veyor.
No, Elaine, I was never tall, dark and handsome. I think that was Sidney Poitier. I think he was in Mr Ferriman's class for drama....
I do remember our first form class with Mrs Rozenbroek. She was very kind and a gentle cushion between junior school and the turbulent, mean streets of GGS. I think she had a daughter in school, Helena?
To Sir with Love. - wouldn't that have been something ? SP at GGS in the 60's - would have caused quite a stir.
Yes Mrs R. was lovely , just what we needed before the harsh realities of BIG school set in. She did have a daughter called Helena, she was a couple of years ahead of us I think.
You boys are very good at hiding your lights under bushels - still got the pointy cap on
Bye for now
By 'eck theres some great stories
Share a story with us then Paul. From the time you spent at school in our town.
Hi Elsie and Elaine, Yes I remember that tiered floor in Gerry Appleyard's classroom, In fact it was very appropriate , I bet Gerry shed many a tear trying to teach us maths although I can still remember the formula to solve a quadratic equation. Oh I and can also recall Miss Clark for some reason and Miss Jones who was from Liverpool and was mad about the Beatles .
I was looking for references to J.L. Latimer and came across this site by accident. Mr. Latimer was an excellent teacher and I did respect him even if I got caned three times, once for slow hand-clapping the school orchestra. Another assault on my pride came from Gus Turner who gave me a very hard slap across the face for my best attempt at art, The name Arthur Kendall appears quite often in the correspondence and I wonder if he recalls drawing a cartoon of Billy Calder on the blackboard.
I think that I must have been there too
Bryan, was Mr Latimer really an excellent teacher? I never recall him ever doing any class teaching. Personally, I had a low opinion of the man, finding him aloof and at times disrespectful.
Bill, Mr. Latimer taught Geometry using a text book authored by himself. He used to award bonus points as a way of encouraging interest and concentration.
The book mentioned was Course in Geometry by J L Latimer and Thomas Smith. We had a Maths teacher called Hirsch. After one
school holiday he did not re-appear. A story swept the school that he had found a mistake in the book. Never knew for certain that there was a mistake. Pity about Mr Hirsch though, he was a good teacher.
Hello Bryan Ramsey - can't visualise your face but the name is very familiar. I should be able to picture you - after all it's only 59 years since I left GGS - and Goole. I can't recall drawing the cartoon of Billy Calder - did I get whacked for it? :-) . I do know we named him something like 'Unkas Eye' - meaning 'one-eyed' - from our own private dictionary, on account of his oyster-like defective peeper (or should we say 'peeker' nowadays? - and 'opthalmically challenged'? ). He brought the house down one day in class, much to his surprise, when, exasperated with one boy, he bellowed "Frankly, Hutchinson..". The class exploded - the lad's first name was Frank....
Barry Spink, brilliant engineer, was a close pal of mine in the early fifties, and we have swapped notes on this site. We're both still alive, as I recall.
I have read with a lot of interest these 'fond memories', laughed a lot, sighed a lot and wondered a lot about the lives we all had back in the fifties, sixties, and seventies. Great names have jogged my aging memory, fond memories of my time at the old 'Modern School'; names like my first teacher Miss Finch (mmmm), Len Townend, Dog Watson, Spluts, Mr Oliver, and what was the name of the woodwork teacher who was in one of the old prefab brick buildings who use to make you stand outside the class and you had to show him your hands, and if they were 'mucky' you would feel the back of his ruler.
My class mates: Geoff Eastwood (Good Footballer), Colin Taylor, Dean Murphy, Mick Brant, Steve Marshall, and the lasses,
Sue Moss, Sue Littlefield, heyup, my memories going again, anyone help me out?
It was a great school with some great teachers, Len Townend was our teacher for the last three years, Finchy the first two (I think). anyway you old playmates, keep this site up and keep talking, the good old days will always be the good old days.
I think the teacher you are referring to was Mr Reaverly. There's a link to a photo of him at the top of this page.
That's him Keith, were you by any chance in my years 65-70?
No Ian, I was there in the early 50s, but so was Mr Reaverly!
Mr Reavely was my woodwork teacher from 1957-61
It is not surprising that Arthur Kendall cannot recall my face, he sat behind me. I sat at the side of Pamela Gash - nice girl.
To Elsie - Hope you are well, but really sorry I just cannot think who you might be. I thought you might have had initials SH ( hence the tall dark & handsome ) but he was about the only name not already mentioned except Graham Tune but he came from Hemingbrough or Graham Petch from Pollington. Michael Clayton came from Gilberdyke ( he took over the family auction business ). Can you remember how many boys were in our class ?
Must go as have some work to do for Monday
Hello, Bryan Ramsay - now I remember - all the girls swooned over the handsome back of your head :-).
Incidentally, one of those quirky little coincidences - a couple of weeks ago I met one Jeanette Gash, born in York, parents Jean and Andrew now living on the Isle of Wight. Pamela was indeed lovely, and no doubt still is. Could be related, I suppose - like we all are if you go back far enough.
Any floods in Goole, Bryan? Dave Clarkson and I used to 'sail' an upturned table on the cricket field in about 1948 - it always sank .... wellies full ... happy days.
Found this on a wet Friday afternoon - much relates to things before my time, can't quite remember what dates exactly that I was at Goole Grammar school - early eighties I think, turning 50 has wiped my memory I fear. I also seem to remember going to the one across the road for a couple of years after Junior School (Kingsway). I remember one of Mr Ferriman's lessons on the poem Jerusalem. I always think of him when dear husband is listening to Test Match Special. Mr F used to relish the phrase "arrows of desire" - I always thought that a bit odd! But he did inspire a continuing love of poetry.
Hi Karen -
I was at GGS many years before you were there, and Festus (sorry, er, Mr Ferriman!) was my form teacher for two years. I remember him very well, and from my point of view, was one of the most popular teachers. I wonder what became of him?
By the way, some of the nicknames of the other teachers in my years were very apt - Boilerhead, Fritz, Bongo, and of course, Elvis. Perhaps the most fitting was that of our Latin teacher: Priscus (just priceless!).
HI folks I remember Pamela Gash and Arthur Kendall plus most of the teachers mentionedI think that Boiler head has married the french teacher madame ayeoolw
Barrie P Spink
Hi Barrie Spink, I remember you, well I remember your name anyway!
I used to go to school with Mr Ferriman's son; Hugh Ferriman. We then parted company as he went to the GGS and I was across the road at the Modern. This was back in 65.
How are you doing? Remember our cycle trip to Scarborough in 1969 when at GHS & going to Whitby/Scarborough to do our school projects etc etc.
They were really good times.
All the best
Hey Jim mate, how are you? Yes I do remember, great times. Remember when we got legless at Scarborough while on a day trip with your mam and dad, We were on Carlsberg special brew (Under age at the time) but what a time we had.
I hope you and yours are well Jim. Keep in touch, there are so many good tales to tell.
I'm ok mate & the family are good. Yes I remember the day out. We were all right until we hit the fresh air. My dad had to prop us up and took us on the sea front out of the way.We wanted the toilet,so he took us in and got a shock when the toilet seat flew into the air. I can't remember how it happened though, but can remember the hangover-ha ha.
We will have to keep in touch. Hope you and Jean are well.
Hello,Elaine Elson,I remember you in Class !B,I also remember the Boys register.Abbey,Bacon,Blackburn,Buttle,Clayton,Coolledge,Ellis,Gelder,Hare,Houghton,Hunt,King,King,Needham Petch,Russel,Scott,Shields,Smith !Am I sad or what?
Yes I remember it well, we passed a policeman when we came out of the Cafe, your dad propped us both up, one either side of him. Great days, We stayed a lot at your Uncle Eric's,
Yes Jean and I are very well thanks Jim, and yes it would be good to keep in touch.
All the best to you and your family.
Yes it was great staying at Eric's.It was like a second home,I spent many a night there over the years.He lived until he was 85.
We stayed there when we did our modern school projects in 1970, travelling to Whitby when we were 14 or 15 & having lunch at the "Angel" (well worth the visit).
This website is really good. I guess we are all chasing memories, we certainly have many.
All the best
Arthur, Do you remember Mr. Hutchinson, the Maths teachers and a lovely man? He used to recite the Stanley Holloway monologues at the end of each term. The whole class would be in stitches but it was unfortunate that the gigglers in our class (yes, girls) would disrupt many a class for a good fifteen minutes during term time. Poor Mr. Hutchinson, he must have been exasperated but never lost his temper.
to: St. Else - where are you.
Hi Elsie, are you OK ? Or have you given up on me ever figuring out who you are ? I hope not as I enjoyed our banter & the memories. Just been listening to some of the sounds of the sixties -Sam & Dave; The Temptations, Four Tops etc.
Bryan Ramsay - yes, 'Hutch' was indeed a good bloke - have you had a look at the photo of him via the 'GGS Staff 1953' link at the top right of this page? He was the only maths teacher who didn't scare me. One day in the seventies, when as part of my job I used to visit Rugeley power station (Staffs), I took a lunch break in a local pub and found myself being served by Mr. Hutchinson's brother - and the likeness was striking.
Sorry to Bryan Ramsay for the mis-spelling :-(
...er ... I mean Sorry to Bryan Ramsey ... must be getting old ... nah .. can't be ... snore ...
Hi Elaine, I'm back. Loved reading all the memories that have been posted whilst I have been away. See that you are still struggling with Elsie St Hill. Not sure why the secrecy but maybe it is just his quirky sense of humour. As he did not react to my earlier recollection from junior school, I suspect that I may be right. Try the initials of the well known tea (the advert with the monkey).
Hello Elaine and Sheila. Didn't mean to cause offence or mystery and it is nothing to do with quirky humour. Just like to be anonymous (after such time and distance ), if you don't mind. Your premature theory ages back made me chuckle Sheila, ( embarassed to say, I can't remember you visually at school though ). I mean about me living in one of the early numbers on the the right, down Elsie St. Now, I have to tell you...no, I am not Philip Gilderdale. I got the reference tee hee PG TIPS straight away. Oh, I larfed. He was in our class ( Pop's ) at Alex was Philip and a nice guy too. Incredibly good at pencil drawing at such an early age. He sketched for me an amazing picture of a horse once, in seconds....I wonder what he did with his life. There was also a lad in that same class who could draw perfect motor cycles. Graham Armitage. How small were we.........regards to you both...
Hi Elsie, no probs at all in maintaining your anonymity. Just like to know who I am chatting to, even though you are not the very artistic Philip. So much for my great theory Ha! Ha! Don't think I know anyone else from Elsie Street so, have no fear, your identity remains a secret. Suppose that mine does too seeing as you cannot remember me. I also remember Graham Armitage from Alex. We sat next to each other in 3A ~ Mrs Gunson's class. Crikey, going back even further now!! Mind you, I can go back to Pasture Road Infants and many of us were in the same class all the way through to Alexandra St before moving on to GGS. Did you go to the school reunion in 2001 or do you live too far away now?
I remember too Pasture Rd School in the 1950's. Crab apple tree in t' front garden. There was an old caretaker Mr Johanson, (sic ), who came out of the boiler house at dinner-time and a lucky kid would stand on the pedal of his bike and be wheeled to the gate. The tiny outside toilets at the end of the yard which seemed to freeze over when the first leaf fell.....
As a kid I remember walking home from school down Elsie St. There was, most afternoons anyway, an old Gentleman on a certain doorstep who gave me the money and a little note to take back down the Street to Ettie Hills corner shop for ten Woodbines...I always got a threepenny bit for the effort. Once, when it was raining, I was called inside. There were pictures on the wall and medals and such from the Great War. He lived in a quiet, subdued light and was reluctant to leave his little house....I digress....
a poignant tale from the fifties.Can i ask. Did the old Gentleman have one leg? My uncle Albert lived opposite the hill you described his room.
Hi Corby. I'm not sure about his leg. It was not as far down as the hill though. It was one of the old red-brick terraced houses on the left from Pasture Rd end. Before you get to Newland Rd. The room and contents from the Great War as I described were I'm sure, duplicated in thousands of homes across the land. Poignant indeed in this Centenary year....
Hi again when you said small house.I thought you may have meant bungalow. which is were my uncle lived.He fought in the first war and came home after a gas attack. however he lost his leg because after my aunt passed away he never cooked and fed out of tins .Ultimately catching scurvy which followed by him dropping a dresser on his toe when gangrene set in.so the wrong man .But my cousin Jim lived a short distance down Newland Rd and fought with distinction in the second war and later.I had other friends close to the hill but .i think much older than you
Oh! Remember well the little sweet shop next to the railings that we used to swing on. What tales that old gentleman could tell. Suppose he was lucky to be alive after all he went through but no doubt he must have struggled financially prior to the advent of the Welfare State. Think the majority of us ran errands or did little jobs for the elderly in our youth. How times change. Cannot ever recall the toilets freezing at Pasture Road but they did at Alex during the big freeze of '63 and we were all sent home. Do you remember the Izal toilet paper? Not the most effective but great for tracing paper though......
To Peter Kirkpatrick
Regarding your reference to Mr Ferriman (Uncle Festus), sadly, he died around 2000. Our class of '63 had a reunion in 2001 and I was told then that he had died. As you say, he was a wonderful man and a great teacher. He was also my form master for 2 years and I found him to be inspirational. I will always be grateful to him for nurturing a love and appreciation of poetry and literature.
Sheila. You are right about Alex toilets freezing over in that big freeze of 63. I could be wrong about Pasture Rd ones. It's been a while after all. Yes, the railings on that patch of grass on the corner. The air-raid shelters which we used to jump off. Shiny loo paper. Spare me. Now wash your hands. Now wash your hands....ha, ha...
Hi Sheila - yes, happy old memories of Uncle Festus.
Our class of '58 (or was it '57?) used our combined wit to come up with the top idea one week of paying our dinner money in (old) pennies. It was probably 5 shillings a week in those days, as everything seemed to cost us five bob (or 'five shullings' as Lenny Lat was apt to pronounce it). As one by one we trouped out to the front of the class with our 60 pennies, Uncle Festus calmly placed the piles of coins in rows on his desk - and didn't bat an eyelid... To his great credit.
Saddo that I may be, I do look back on my time at GGS with fond memories, but I was so lucky to have a great bunch of, er, classmates in my year, as we moved up through the school.
Years later, I wrote a song about a girl (well, two really) in my year that I later sold with some others to an American publishing company. Some years later still, it became a big seller for an '80s country music star. But that's another story.
Reading with interest about those who went to Pasture Road School.Was there a reason (catchment area) why you transferred to Alex or Kingsway as it seems Boothferry Road School was nearer eg for those living on Elsie and Hilda Streets? Was there a short cut for the two schools over the railway eg bridge at end of Cheviot Ave? My cousin in the late'40's/early '50's lived in Jackson Street near Centenary Road but went to Boothferry Road although Pasture Road was a lot closer.
I remember that on Centenary Road opposite Jackson and Weatherill Streets, where the bungalows and 6 semi-detached houses are, were allotments.
Regarding toilets at Boothferry Road we were no better off as they were outside,two rows back to back serving the infants on one side and the juniors the other.
Hello Paul, suppose there must have been a catchment area for schools but not sure what it was. I was born in Brough St with the school dentist on the corner (too close for comfort) and went to Pasture Rd and Alex. We did sometimes go over Kingsway Bridge to get to school but usually, went through the town. However, Peter Walker, who lived at the other end of the street on Mount Pleasant, went to Kingsway. Philip Baker (a family friend ~ sadly, no longer with us) lived on Jackson St and went to Alex. We also had a girl in our class at Alex from Adeline St. So make sense of that if you will....
Think we all suffered with the delightful outside toilets except for those who went to Kingsway. Used to go there for my violin lessons every week. On reflection, I now realise that we did nor even have hand-washing facilities. Wonder what Health & Safety would make of these days. Yet our entire childhood would be considered hazardous today][. Our trolley was a plank of wood over a set of pram wheels with a bit of string to steer it and no brakes. Great fun! We could even buy our own fireworks from the proceeds of our 'Penny for the Guy'. Making the Guy was always our half-term project.
Hi Elsie, forgot about the air raid shelters. There was also some waste land at the end of Brough St that we called the Fire Station and could access by climbing over the gate. Both sites now have flats for the elderly. However, we played a lot in the street or skipped with a washing line from one side of the street to the other. And...... courtesy of TS and his memory of the form register, I now know who I am chatting to (but schh!mum's the word). Suppose I never knew where you lived and therefore, could not make the connection. Remember Stephen Ingledew lived in Westbourne Grove and Robert Balcam in
Murham Ave. Did Graham live on Westfield Ave?
Hello Peter, think we were all a bit naughty at school but thought we were being very clever at the time. No doubt, the teachers, as well as our parents, did the same things themselves. Would love to hear more about your song writing and who had the hit with your work. Do you still compose?
Thanks for your reply.From what you said I would be unable to make a sensible guess as to the criteria which determined the school children went to.I don't recall their being parental choice. I also remember next door to the school on Centenary Road was the dairy/milk distribution depot and the bottles had a lip over 1" wide with colourful carboard tops which were used in the playground to flick the nearest to the wall (later it was cigarette packets). Another game was to knock marbles out of a circle but some children who had a family member working on the railway would use a large ballbearing or "bolly" which effectively destroyed many a marble collection.
Used to run around with loads of penny bangers and jumping crackers in my pockets on bonfire night. on the bomb site in Boothferry Road between Jackson Street and Weatherill Street. A good reason for the HSE.
The scars are still there on Boothferry Road school where a plane crashed during the war!
A Hampden bomber I believe.
Sheila. So sorry to hear about Pip Baker. Remember him well from the old days. He was a big friend of Colin Sprake and a lovely fellow......when was this, may I ask?
Yes, I remember Ingy and Rob Balcam. Rob was an outstanding sportsman it needs to be said. We used to rub elbows deskwise and ducked for cover under the desk lid when we got the giggles. We all got the giggles, let's face it!
Hi Elsie, I think Philip died about 10 years ago in Australia. (Not sure when he emigrated though.) Time goes by so quickly, that I lose track. I understand he had a brain tumour. So very sad. As you say, he was a good person with a lovely family. Remember too that Rob Balcam was very sport orientated and played Rugby for the school. Think we all used the desk lids for the same purpose. Feel sorry for the school kids of today. The new style desks have no character. How about the ink wells at Alex and the dip & scratch pens?
Hi Paul, Remember the dairy on Centenary Road and the little bottles of tepid milk we had to consume. Much better when it was cold or at least, not left next to a radiator. Yuk!!! My granny used to live at 9 Jackson St before being bombed out. Although the bomb fell on No: 5, the other houses had to be demolished. So in effect, you played in my granny's front room. Ha! Ha! We often played marbles (but banned the bollies) and also played a similar game with beer bottle tops.
Sheila. Again, sorry about Pip.
I remember the inkwells in the desks, even at GGS. Us lads would nip up the pen nibs in a woodwork vice and poke them down milk straws. Lethal darts they were. I asked a question years ago on these pages and nobody answered. What happened to the Head's chair from the stage? The one with mouse carved on the wooden leg....a craftsman's signature...
Intrigued by the Nashville songwriter too...consarn it!
I live in the Midlands now and for over 30 years but have just packed a case. Off to Scarborough tomorrow for a few days. Miss the Yorkshire accent! I will take the i-pad but not sure about wifi. May be offline for a while . Thanks for the memories....
Hello sheila & Elsie st.hill, had to reply went on stage with Gareth in our military uniforms on our first leave so if you didn't leave until the 5th form you would have still been there. I was in the D strain with my best mate JF.
I lived at 17 Jackson Street before moving to Clifton Gardens. From google earth I see the last house is 11 Jackson Street.On the bombed site adjacent was built a painters and decorators/retail/trade warehouse (now Jackson St Motors ?) owned by the Settle family who lived at no 26 (?) , a detached house with a large side and rear garden. From google the side garden is now a terrace of 3 houses. I was at school with their son John.
We did meet in your granny's front room but spent more time on the main bombed site.The misformed bushes were ideal aeroplane cockpits with rudders etc.!!!
Hey Baz. Queen's Ave rules old friend. Incognito you understand...Gaz, Sticky, John Ford...bless 'em.
You did the Falklands didn't you mate?
Well hello Barry Oldridge. Good to hear from an old classmate from Alex & GGS. Remember that you were the first to have a 'Beatle' suit in Mr Craven's class, or at least to come to school in it. Think I can recall your visit to school in Army uniform but to be honest, that is a very hazy memory as I also saw you in town in it.
The rest of the class were still at school when we heard of Fordy's death. So tragic. You do not expect to lose one of your peer group at that age and then only 8 years later, we heard about Sticky. Both too young to die.
Anyway, would love to hear more of your memories. I recall the time in the French lesson when you asked Miss Clarke (Carol) if you could be excused and then stopped at the door and asked her for a match. And.... she gave you one. Reckon that was when she lost any control.
Enjoy your trip Elsie.
Hi Paul, after being bombed out my granny moved to no: 29, opposite the Settles. Pat was a teacher at Pasture Road and her sister married the chap from Carlton Towers nurseries (can't remember his name now). The Settles initially lived at no:5 but took a direct hit with the bomb.
Hi Elsie & Sheila, nice to hear from you both, yes I went to the falklands, Kuwait I volunteered for. Remember Sheila when dave saynor twanged ma Clarke with elastic, mr chapel went mad with andy grey, he copped for it. Can't believe 3 friends went like that. Anybody heard owt about Roy houghton.
Interesting that your granny moved to no.29 as that is almost opposite the narrow alleyway at the side of the Settles house.John Settle,my cousin from no.47 and myself played cricket in the alley trying to get "sixes" against the front walls across the road.The target area was larger then as I see no.31 now has wide horizontal windows on both floors.Seem to remember a family called Harlington at 31 or 32.
correction 31 or 33.
I remember the little alley you mentioned. Can imagine my granny being none too pleased at you kicking a ball against her wall. However, as she lived mostly in the back room, she may not have noticed. I take it that you all had a good aim and did not break any windows.
Do not know who lived at 33 but the Knox family lived at 31.
I remember the outcome of that incident with Miss Clarke but could not recall that it was because of Dave Saynor. I know she left the classroom in tears and came back with Mr Chappell. Poor Andy, as form monitor (and the smallest in the class), received a full verbal onslaught whilst being held aloft by the collar.
Have no idea what became of Roy Houghton as I left Goole in 1968 and apart from family visits, have never returned.
Sorry Paul, meant hitting balls not kicking them. Mind you, if you used proper cricket balls they were far more lethal. Encountered many cricket ball injuries when I worked in A&E. Nasty ones too!
We played with tennis balls only.Not sure when your granny moved into no.29. But the last "test" match would have been about 1954/55.
Pleased you had the sense to use tennis balls. More bounce as well, I suppose, so they would come back to you. Ha! Ha!
Granny moved into 29 during the war after being bombed and remained there until she died in 1962. She was the younger sister of the artist Reuben Chappell. He used to have his studio at the bottom of Jackson St until he moved to Parr, in Cornwall, just before the outbreak of war.
Lived in Jackson street from 1944 to 1950/1 or so, then moved to Clifton Gardens until 1955 then moved to Hull. Must have come across your granny at some stage. Perhaps she was fielding at long on? Never hit the ball over the roofs. Had relations at 47,49 (granny Pettican)and approx.105 or so.
By coincidence I have a painting by Reuben Chappell of the SS Matje which my grandfather who lived in Bournville was the captain of.
With Jackson Street and Reuben Chappell the connections go on.
Pleased you have a Chappell painting. Although he also did some photography, he made his living by sketching ships as they sailed into the docks and would have the painting ready by the time the ship left. We have a watercolour of a Cornish coastline but sadly, none of his oils.
Where did you live in Hull? We had relatives in Willoughby and Anlaby.
Forgot to ask where was Reuben's studio at the "bottom" end of Jackson Street? I believe he left Goole in 1904 so can't ascertain where it might have been. I assume bottom end might be the Boothferry Road end? My earliest recollections are no. 11 then open space, then Settles built a warehouse(?), "ten" foot through to Weatherill Street, then a buildimg flanking Jackson Street and fronting Boothferry Road which was a doctors or dentist.The rest of the Boothferry Road frontage to Weatherill Street was the bomb site or play area in my time.
I lived in Hall Road (north Hull) then moved to Beverley Road, Anlaby.
Reuben had his studio at No: 1, I think. Definitely, that end of the street anyway. Probably where the wallpaper shop was. I can only go on information given to me by my mum. As you say, he left Goole in 1904 and died in 1940. Remember visiting his son Cecil in Parr in the early 60's though.
How strange that you now live on Beverley Road. My cousin David Addy lives at 272. His father was my granny's cousin and so a nephew of Reuben.
What a small world we live in....
May have misled you in that I lived at 293 until 1963 then left to study in London and Nottingham but reurned to visit my parents until my father died in 1997.I now live near Chelmsford via London(Seven Kings,Hornsey,Muswell Hill and sarf Totten arm),Derby and Burton on Trent.
For nostalgic reasons I go regularly along Beverley Road so pass your cousin's house and my old home on the way to watch Hull City as I am a season ticket holder. An 8 hour return journey on a Saturday!
You mentioned A&E. Would that be St.Johns? The only medical facility I attended was for stitches above my eye which was down Bartholomew Ave near the Cenataph. Living at Clifton Gardens at the time it was a two minute walk.
Yes, definitely crossed wires, I think. Still, if you were in Anlaby at that time, thought you may have known my other cousin, Martin as you must be about the same age. He studied dentistry, but not sure where. Good to hear that you are being loyal to your football team though. Have you ever thought of staying over instead of doing a lengthy round trip? Or better still, take the train. Hull trains do a regular service from London. Quite reasonable as well if you book early enough and use a senior railcard. Our youngest son lives in London, so we always take the train.
I nursed in Harrogate, Pontefract, Leeds & latterly, Dewsbury but never in Goole. St John's is now Tesco and Bartholomew is a health clinic, I believe. A new hospital was built on Westfield Ave but the main hospital for the area is Scunthorpe.
Hi Elsie & Elaine. Some Information for you. I have been in touch with the school and discovered that the Head's 'mouseman' chair is no longer there. Evidently, it was given to a former teacher on his retirement. They did not say who that was though. Maybe someone else out there knows....
Was talking to one of my nieces a couple of days ago and relating some of my school memories. I always thought the teachers looked impressive with their flowing gowns and their University colours and mortar boards at Assembly. Don't think pupils see that these days.
Hope you enjoyed your break Elsie and enjoyed some decent fish and chips!!
Hi Sheila and Elsie
I can't believe we are still talking after all these years! Like you Sheila I joined the army at 15 and although I never left Goole a lot of my acquaintance's have long left the memory although I still recall faces when I see them, the names are no longer there. I noticed that Graham Cowling posted a few things, if you read this Gres do you know anything of Roy Houghton? Now Elsie it's a lifetime since Queens Ave and all the best memories of mine seem to stem from that era. Fordy and Sticky use to stay at my house kipping in chairs or talking and playing music, aah the good old days!!! When are you going to let everyone know who you are, I knew as soon as I saw your post and find it difficult to not put your name. If anyone has any pics of groups from Alex or GGS I would be over the moon if you mail them to me.
Don't recall your cousin Martin. Had I gone to one of the local Anlaby schools at a young age I might have done. I had one year at junior school in Hull then by the time I moved to Anlaby in about 1959 I was in a Hull secondary school and commuting daily by bus.The school was RC and pupils attended from many parts of the area including Goole and Old Goole.
I do occasionally stay over in Hull especially if a game of golf can be fitted in. I've checked out the trains but even with a discretionary card its about £36 pound dearer than driving and as I'm on a branch line,until recently with a new timetable,I would need a taxi for the last leg of the journey to get home. Some may say where's my loyalty to Goole Town as I watched them regularly after the matinee at the Cosy Carlton.
If it was not for this website, don't suppose our paths would have crossed again. We all have fond memories of our childhood. Suppose that is because we didn't have any responsibilities in our youth and we could also burn the candle at both ends. Wish I still had the same energy levels today!! Priorities change once into adulthood though, don't they?
I have some class photos somewhere from Alex and GGS. Did you see the Alex 4A class photo in the Goole Times last spring? It was in the "In the Past" section. How horrible is that? Surely, we are not THAT old ..... Do you think they made a mistake?
Used to see Graham quite often but have not seen him for a few years now. Saw his earlier comments but it seems as though he no longer accesses this site. Suppose he may try again later.
Know of quite a few people who went to the RC school. Heard it was also a very good school.
Accept your costings for your travel to Hull but it certainly is a long drive for you. I certainly wouldn't fancy it. Can understand your allegiance to Hull FC as opposed to Goole Town. Not really in the same league, are they? Ha! Ha!
Sorry to have to report that the Cosy Carlton is no more. I went to the cemetery a few weeks ago and noticed that it had now been demolished. It has not been a cinema for many years but it still held a lot of memories for many people. The Cinema was the 1st to go and became Fine Fare supermarket. The Tower Theatre eventually became a bingo hall and I believe is now also demolished. (Tend not to go down Carlisle St now so it may just be something else). Cinema viewers now go to Castleford or Hull. However, Boothferry Rd school is now some form of Community Centre and holds a variety of events.
Sorry about mispelling your name in my last post.
Was trying to recall names of pupils from Old/Goole and can only remember Storr, Woodfine and Mayne.
Wash your mouth out with carbolic soap as Hull FC is a rugby club along with Hull KR.(need a smiley face webmaster). Whilst some support both codes many are antagonistic to the other. When living in Hull and Anlaby I did follow Hull FC but as many friends at Marist were Hull KR supporters I went with them to away matches and didn't have a problem supporting them.
Didn't realise the Cosy C. had been demolished perhaps Google earth will catch up. Remember going to the newsagent/sweet shop opposite to buy ice cream wafers. 6 for 1p and with a bag of 36 crunching threw Tom Mix,Roy Rogers etc. and the Three Stooges. Difficult to understand how a town of 19000 plus and the surrounding area can't sustain a cinema when it had 3.Never got to sit in the double seats for nefarious purposes!!
Pleased the old Boothferry Road School is still in a useful community use. I recall a church hall(?) between Parliament Street and Carter Street,, an imposing building, but now demolished, which held community activities like the Sunshine Club "for happy girls and boys."
As a retired town planner I look at what happened at the corner of Aire Street and North Street. Is it Aldi? A dreadful facade particularly to Aire Strret in my opinion.
Don't think Goole has been served well by redevelopment by people in my former profession,again in my opinion.
You will have guessed that I am not a follower of football so do not know one team from another. Ha! Ha! Still, I did think that FC stood for Football Club. Are they just Hull City then?
I used the little sweet shop also before the matinee at the CC but used to buy Fruit gums. Remember going there to buy my granny some invalid toffee (her weekly treat). For years I thought it was only for invalids!! I was only young at the time. She died when I was 10. Did love it when she gave me some though.
It is a Lidl store at the corner of Aire & North St. I agree, not the most beautiful of buildings. The new swimming pool is behind it. The public baths on Pasture Rd is now no more. As is Alexandra St school. That was pulled down to make way for shop units. Boothferry Rd is now pedestrianized between the railway crossing and the Clock tower. To drive through town now you must either turn left into Wesley Sq (that was the wasteland next to the station) or turn right into Mariner St and left onto Stanhope St to reach the clock tower roundabout. But no public loos underneath any more. The bank opposite is now a Wetherspoons..... Pity you were not involved in the Goole town planning.
We have just returned from China and the temples there are something else. All are hand-carved with proper joints and no screws or nails. Only problem is, they are surrounded by high rise buildings of 80+ floors. Tends to spoil the effect somewhat.
The full official name is Hull City Association Football Club (Hull City AFC for short) but is often referred to as Hull City in the media.The owners are currently trying to change the name to Hull Tigers as he feels having Tigers in the name will bring overseas investment from the far east ("tigers" is our nickname) and he thinks "City" is common.He's certainly divided the fans over this.
A few years ago I had to go to a funeral at the Parish Church on Church Street and was confronted by the pedestrianisation but fortunately had time in hand to consult passersby.Think I arrived there via the Mariner St.and Stanhope St and parking on Aire Street saw the glory which is Aldi.
Hope you enjoyed China. Whilst I can appreciate the workmanship and particularly the colours of wooden temples I can more readily understand traditional European style of religious architecture despite seeing many temples in Thailand and Laos. Laos did however have Buddha Park, near the capital Ventiane,overlooking the river Mekong, which has 200 statues of Buddha albeit in reinforced concrete. Visited it twice although on the first occasion my daughter and I were descended upon by young men who wanted to practice their englsh, have homework checked etc.On the second visit we were approached by a single young man who in exchange for speaking english explained each of the statues, A real result. After Laos visited Cambodia. Up before dawn, on to the backs of motor bikes and sunrise at Angkor Wat. Was amazed at the number of temples in very close proximity.At one we were warned to stay on the footpath as the adjacent area had landmines. It was tarmac for me after that!!
Low rise buildings surrounded by high rise reminds me of China Town in Singapore (this was many years ago),
Did you get involved in the Whitsun parades on the drays.We started at St Pauls( another building that has gone).I read some time ago the church on Boothferry Road and corner of Clifton Gardens was under threat due to cost of maintenance.If it goes I doubt it will be replaced by something as imposing.
thanks for putting me right about your football club. I did know they were referred to as 'Tigers' as they wear the same colours as GGS and Castleford Tigers RLFC come to that.
We saw an 8.2 metre Buddha made of solid silver in Shanghai. Wow! Love to see all places of worship and the differing styles of architecture. Especially the unfinished cathedral in Barcelona. Such skill and workmanship without the aid of modern machinery. These buildings have certainly stood the test of time.
Yes, I always participated in the Whitsuntide walks. I also went to St Paul's Sunday School and went for Confirmation classes at the vicarage on Clifton Gardens. One of my Sunday school teachers was Annabel Ramsey. She was the daughter of Dr Ramsey, the music teacher at GGS. We always had our new summer outfit for the Whit walk . Remember that it was a great family occasion and the route to the Riverside Gardens was lined with many people. Always had an ice cream after the parade too.
This was a time when everything was closed on Sundays. It was considered bad form to cut the grass or do the washing on this day. I always wore my Sunday best with white socks, white undies and a ribbon in my hair. The rest of the week it was beige socks and no ribbon. Would also go out for a walk in the summer or visit relatives. Not the done thing to play out, you know.... Oh! How times have changed.
A Buddha ,8.2m of solid silver, must have been an amazing sight and worth a few "tanners". In terms of size beats the solid gold "golden Buddha" which I saw in Bangkok. as its only just over 3 m.
Remember the Sunday school in the prefab. next to the church. Sundays were quite busy as I was in the choir desplte being tone deaf but was probably there to make up the numbers. So had two services and Sunday school but managed to fit in a walk to the bridge,Airmyn or more likely the docks to look at "Tom Puddings".
Don't recall Sundays preventing us playing football in the road opposite the church between Weatherill and Jackson Streets. Nor keeping the cheer down when the gas lamplighter turned up to ensure a floodlight game
As I didn't go to either secondary school in Goole the names of teachers are unfamiliar to me except Mr (Dr?) Latimer. When aged about 9 I sneeked onto GGS playing fields in wellington boots and was trying to kick a rugby ball over the cross-bar.I recall being admonished severely by him but said I wanted to attend the school,my mother had been taught there and was a teacher at the SMS.Anyway he let me continue BUT not to come back!!! Which I didn't.Would have appreciated going there but Hull was in the signs.
Who else remembers/participated in the Whit walks? Do they still take place? I have not seen them in any of the places I have lived over the years. Suppose with so many churches closing, it is highly unlikely.
Just had a thought Paul, how did you manage to attend St Paul's and then the Catholic school?
Sheila, yes I was in the Whit Walks as a participant on one of the 'tableau' from the Parish Church Sunday School. These were mounted on the back of flat bed trucks. I have photos. In one I am a four year old with my legs hanging over the side next to the wheel - no considerations of Health and Safety then. On the same subject, I always remember the precipitous drop of about 10 feet from part of the river embankment walk down onto Hook Road. It is amazing that small kids never fell off. I'm sure it will be fenced now. And yes we were always dressed very smartly for the occasion, our mum having taken us to Foster and Tetly's for our new 'rig outs'. Although these 'walks' were supposedly religious in purpose, their main importance -as I remember - was as an amazing manifestation of community spirit and civic pride. Pretty rare commodities these days.
The Entertainment link on the sidebar leads to videos of Goole Whit walks.
Remember riding on the flatbed lorries when very small and then walking the route as I got older. So grown up at 7+ !!!
As you say, no-one ever fell off. Some children had chairs on the lorry but others like you, sat on the edge with their legs dangling over the side. Think it may well have been civic pride, as it seems that the whole town turned out. Most children went to Sunday school in those days though so, the spectators would have been family.
Have seen the cine film Robert and thought I saw myself on it but not sure as it was only a fleeting moment.
Hook Gala and Fancy dress parades were also well attended.
Whist Marist College was an RC grammar school it had to provide a small no.of places to others (C of E in my case) and I was a short bike ride away.I don't recall any of those from outside the local area were not RC. Certainly those from Old/Goole were. In the lower forms it was quite different with 9/10 week summer holidays and week long retreats where the non RCs did very little.This changed later on to more traditional lengths of holiday and organised lessons during the retreats. What a blow!!
Sounds a wonderful school Paul. All those holidays, great!!
It seems that you enjoyed the best times.
Fond memory's of the whitsuntide parade. I worked for L.E.P. Transport depo in 5th avenue, I and other drivers volunteered to prepair a lorry for the Monday parade. We started prepairing them Saturday morning washing and painting the unit and trailer, back Sunday morning to touch up the paint work and hope that the paint had dried. Monday morning over to drop of the trailor to be got ready for the paraid slow ride back to town so I did not drop any off the kids the trailor nice run round Goole back to .Old Goole church for a tuck in. Nice memories they last longer then dreams. Regard Norman
What a wonderful story and good to hear what went on behind the scenes. Suppose that as children we did not appreciate the amount of work and time that went into the parades. You and your friends did a marvellous job and to your credit, never lost one child. Thank you.
I left Goole in 1961 aged 15, when my Mum remarried, and we moved away from the area. I remember the parade being the biggest day of the year apart from Christmas.
Norman, I'd just like to second Sheila's words of appreciation and thank you, and your colleagues, for the wonderful voluntary work you did on behalf of the children of Goole. There is no doubt that those Whit walks enriched our lives and left us ex pats with the fondest memories of Goole as it was then.
I worked at LEP with Norman I always went to the church on the corner of Humber St. All Saints or St. Mary`s can`t remember its name, they always had two artics for the kids to ride on and a ridgid for the Tableau. Most of the lorries used were LEP or Hudson Wards and there was a friendly rivalry between us as to who had the best looking lorries. After the procession we all went back to the church for the tea party,my wife and baby always rode in the cab with me
Re. Jeremy email@example.com.Jeramy I would like to ask you if your Farther is jerry nutbrown,who lived near the police Stn at Howden. Jerry was a friend from past,along with Steve Thomas The late Terry Carter who's mother and farther was a fabulous couple,also Leo Leatham from the round house Knedlington Rd,
Not forgetting Geoffe Dennis from Hull Rd.Hope you manage to read this and if you are Jerry's son please pass on my regards to your Farther and hope to here from you soon
Regards. Norman. Roberts. P/s better late then never
with reference to one of your earlier postings, I have been wondering, are you Bill Gelder, by any chance? Or would you rather remain anonymous?
Tony thanks for coming in on this one,it was nice going back in
Time, we new what went on in the back ground it's nice to enlighten others on what we got up to.
Can you remember when we had been accident free for a year driving our lorry,we got a diploma and a 1 pouned note we had
To go up the stairs in Belgravia to meet Mr Studer for a hand shake
And receive our reward, This was early 1960's a pound was a lot of-money I have still got my diploma's thanks again TC.
Sheila, my surname is Stewart not Gelder. But I have a vague recollection of a Hazel Gelder from my early school days. Bill
Got that one wrong then. Ha! Ha! Good to talk to you though. Bill Gelder was in my form and we also had Kevin in the B stream, I think. The only Hazel I knew was Hazel Hinks.
I heard that the church on the corner of Clifton Gardens was to be demolished as well. It may well have gone already. My friend in Goole said that they wanted to sell the land as they will get a lot for it and the congregation, which has dwindled, will amalgamate with Trinity Methodist. Goole has gone through a lot of changes in the last thirty years and experienced some very bad planning decisions and a lack of imagination.
I remember the Whit Walks, I think they stopped in the 1970s when Whitsuntide ceased to be a holiday. My Dad, who was born in 1924, told me that as a child he and his brother were on a dray when the horse was stung by a hornet and bolted! I don't think anyone was hurt but he said Mothers screamed with fear for their children.
Never got to Belgravia Norman, I kept Bumps and Scatches employed. To go back to the Whit Procession I remember doing the Tableau with one of the new Tader 75s the first ones with air brakes, daren`t put my foot near the brake pedal.
Tony the Thames Trader 75 had a warning at back of the flatbed reading caution air brakes,if you hit your brakes at 15 M P H you would shoot backwards and hope there was nothing close behind you, I don't think any driver lost anyone off there vehicles on any of the parades, we are talking about what took place in 1965 it would not be aloud to take place today.
Regards N R
FOR BRYAN RAMSEY & ARTHUR KENDALL.
Nice to read the banter between you two. Shame you did not get to our 2000 & 2005 reunions as I really would have loved to meet up with you and reminisce over our times in 4B & 5B.
I think we were the 3 rebels at that time.
Anyhow, if you had been at the reunions, you would have met up with the lovely Pam Gash (as was). I was also one of her admirers. For the right price, I might let you know of her last known whereabouts!!
Looking back in time I can remember our neighbour who worked for a local coal merchant as a drayman, on the whit week parade all the horse brasses were polished and plumes on the Horses head made to look nice,seeing the Shire Horse out side our front door looking a proper picture, It's a shame there was not as many cameras about in them days just think what photos we would have if camera phones ad been around then,the kids dressed up in there Sunday best the dray looking a picture the driver steadying the Horse P/S the drivers name was Charlie Macdermot hope I spelt his name correct, please make sure any old photos around Goole never get dispose of and kept for the future.
Fond memories Anon
How true Anon. But photos need an explanation on the back otherwise, they are just 'strangers in a box' and mean nothing to the family once we are gone.
Cannot say as I recall the horses in the Whit parades but do remember the dray horses in the Hook Gala parade. Suppose that if we were all in our Sunday Best, then the horses should be too. Sadly, it is a sight seldom seen by the younger generation today. But wearing your Sunday Best is a thing of the past now too.
Remember G.G.S well. I was in Tudor and our first year was with Miss Scurrah in room 7. My class mates were Lesley Bristow, Karen Garner, Elaine Linklater, Diane Betts, Margaret Hall, Karen Button, David Holborough, Danny Hennessy., John Hewitt and the late Gary Wakes to name a few.Our next year was in room 8 with Mr. Ferryman (Festus). Very happy days for me. Some brilliant times and lovely friends. Does anyone remember Miss Mead, the music teacher? And Pansy Potter, P.E teacher with Miss Ounsley? Also was there a Miss Esherwood ?(think a drama teacher or was she the Domestic Science teacher in the F. E Block?). I remember Bongo - bless him. And Mr. King who taught us history. Loved every minute attending that school.
i attended Goole modern in the early fiftys an remember the teachers and there various tools of punishment Mr Rouse Would ask you to put coal on is fire then three stokes of is cane on the backside Mr Baker art teacher used a plimsol la la moody r/e the cane Charlie Greenside the black board rubber rubber on your Knuckles but the worst one was Mr Stokes who took over from Mr George Windle in p/ e used a cricket bat birdy Fell mathsI don't think I had any punishment from him apart from throw my book out of the window the other birdy Fell science teacher used a plimsol Rr Revely wood work once lock me in the store for three hours and forgot i was there pop Northey was a cane man
I remember old Pop Northey, he cried like a baby on the stage when we all assembled in the hall to say farewell on his retirement day.
Hello Brian I believe that we may have friends in common who live in Airmyn if I have the right Brian we met there once.Were coming up next week so we may visit again we'll contact them first
In your posting you seem to remember name of all who inflicted pain.but do you remember the teachers who did not need to go to those lengths .mr. Rouse was a bully and was a poor replacement for Mr. Firth ,the gentle giant
If I remember rightly, Mr Rouse's nick-name was 'Plum'?
To Rod Lumley
Glad to hear that you are keeping well and still following the site, I do remember Pam Gash
Hello Rod Lumley, and welcome to the Pamela Gash fan club. I recall daring to ask her for a date only to be spurned. Pamela suggested that I could ask Margaret Roffey, the form's chief giggler, but I did not dare face another rejection.
The names Mavis Vines and Shelia Woodcock cause me to reflect that we had some grand lasses in our form. Does anyone know what happened to ginger George Robinson, a Hessle boy?
Don't know about George, but I seem to remember Margaret Webster, Janet Ackroyd, Gillian Dickenson, Judith Ramsay, Iris Steggall, Jean ("Charlie") Hailstone, Yvonne Parsisson (sp?) ... memory's getting creaky.
There are many School Photos 1964 on the Goole Museum Site marked as unknown > I was able to identify Mrs Mcallinden not sure of spelling > I was taught by her twice 1959-1960 she was my last teacher before I left school.
I was at goole for a few years doing a level about 1976..... I would LOVE to know if Martin Hinkley and Jo Glover are around, from the music department.......
Hello, Sheila, Elaine and Baz. Goole Grammar. 1960's. The conversation wilted a while ago but I'm still here....if you want to relate. Barry, I remember one of your older brothers having the latest Roy Orbison records on whenever I called round at yours. I am still a fan of his music, believe me....we all have our bus passes now don't we ? But hey, what a grand time we had, my word....best wishes.
Just re-located this site after a number of years.Glad to see so many posts from names I recall from the 60's/70's.Still visit Goole regularly as my eldest son is living in what used to be my home in Hook although I am still living in Richmond,N.Yorks with my wife Sue and youngest son.Our daughter Zoe is rowing for GB but lives in London.Love to hear from anyone who remembers me.I am still in contact with a number of past pupils and attended the Goole Old Boys Christmas do with Rob Balcam in 2012.
Adey Lee. Blonde-haired lad. I remember you as a bit of an athlete. Sprinter, I think. Did you have a bit of a joust with Dave ( Whiffer ) Wraith in the 220 yards ( as it was in those days ). I remember, a fellow a few years older than us ( Martin Scutt ), who was so talented, that he won the Mile easily on Sports Day and ran with his arms fixed to his side to give the lads behind half a chance ....ie. his arms didn't swing, to help his rhythm. Rhythm, now there's a dodgy word to spell, where's Ma Cog for English ?
Yes you are right.I ended up playing rugby with Martyn Scutt at St Johns York after I left the GGS.Dave Barker also went to St Johns at the same time as me.
I often browse through 'Goole on the Web' to catch up with at least some of those who have passed through GGS. I was interested to read that Adrain Lee is still in Richmond. Our paths have crossed a couple of times since GGS - St John's College and Richmond School.
Good to hear life goes on. I keep in touch with several Old Johnsmen and former GGS students.
I now live in Knaresborough and enjoy teaching watercolour painting to anyone who cares to come to my classes.
Nice to hear from you.Long time since you helped me to get my first teaching post at Easingwold prior to moving to Richmond.Yes,still in Richmond.Retired from full time teaching in 2012 and did a year part time.Now fully retired.Time spent following the children,especially our daughter Zoe,who is at the moment in the GB women's 8 in the rowing team.We are hoping to go to Amsterdam at the end of next month to see her compete in the World Championships.Best wishes.Adrian
To Elsie & Sheila, 30/3/14 - Hope I'm forgiven for renewing the conversation about Phil Baker but I could not let this opportunity pass without contributing. For the record he died on 26/4/07. We went to Australia together on 14/12/73, he to Sydney, me to Melbourne. We remained the best of friends though for many years and visited each other often. But Phil was best friend to many, he was that kind of guy.
In reply to Graham Cowling(a post back in 2013).I can confirm Mike Coldwell has passed away.His son Jim lives in the next street from me in Richmond.He is a teacher at the local comprehensive.
Re Mike Coldwell - we used to try to mimic his accent, especially the way he said "Glossop", which is where he came from. He ended up at Millom school which I imagine he said in a similar way. I remember him using the globe which used to hang in Arnie's room to prove that if you went right round the world you gained or lost a day. He was great on physical geography too. One day he told off a certain lad for fidgeting. "But Sir, there's a draught right up my backside." "There'll be something else up your backside if you don't jack it in" he warned. After a pause came the response "Sir, my mother doesn't send me to school to do things like that." Even Mr. Coldwell couldn't keep a straight face.
Sad to hear of the passing of Mr Coldwell. I always thought his name was Mr Caldwell. Just shows you. We nicknamed him Minnie, after the early Coronation St. character. I also remember his accent, in particular, the way he said Chesapeake Bay in a jogger lesson. Rest in peace Sir.
Good to hear your comments on Phil Baker. He really was an all round good person from a very caring family. Our parents were good friends so we saw each other socially, as well as at school.
As for 'Minnie' Coldwell, Elsie, I remember him, Bob Fletcher and Garth Jones joining the staff in our 2nd year (1964). Their youth Caused quite a stir amongst the girls, as I recall. The boys took a shine to Jacqueline Josephine Joyce Huddlestone, the former Head Girl of the school who returned to her roots. she had beautiful auburn hair. Especially remember Minnie's comb over and it falling down when he was annoyed. Also remember him playing in the staff vs pupils rugby match. His legs seemed to go on for ever.
What was the name of the young economics teacher who started the same time as 'minnie'. Was that Fletcher? He was an excellent teacher.
Yes Bill, I did Economics with Mr Fletcher. I'm sure he also taught us History. History, it's just one thing after another....
Sheila, what did Garth teach ? Was it Engineering and Tech Drawing ?
Jackie Huddlestone. I suppose she did return to her roots. Didn't her family have a farm off Rawcliffe Rd, way behind West Park ?
Mr Fletcher taught us history. I remember well doing current politics of the day with him and he said that there would be a problem with pensions by 2020 due to the baby boom of the 50's and 60's. Since then, there has been great progress within the health care arena that has also increased our life expectancy and compounded the situation. Fortunately, I took heed of the advice. Pity that successive governments chose to ignore it until now. Other facts and figures have long been forgotten though, unfortunately.....
Garth Jones taught English language, English Lit. and drama. We had Mr Ferriman for English & Lit. A wonderful man.
The Huddlestone's did have a farm on Rawcliffe Rd, Elsie. Well remembered.
I was way off on Garth's subjects then. LOL. At least I was in the same postcode re Jackie's farm ! That Tech drawing fella is puzzling me now though. I can see a smallish bloke with glasses, a Tweed checked jacket with elbow patches. Was it something like Mr Whitehead or Whiteley ? Somebody will jump in with his name I'm sure....
Now you have said it, I think his name was Whitehead. Your description of him is 'spot-on' though. LoL
Just recalled a story I heard about JJJ when she was at school. She got off the bus at her farm gate and took off her 'pork pie' hat. Unfortunately, Miss Holland, the Domestic Science mistress was on the bus and saw her do that 'unforgiveable' act. Not sure of the punishment but it would have been at least '2 sides'. Maybe even 4.
I started GGS 1953 same time as JJJH, still speak now and then when we meet, she might be interested to know she is the topic of conversation amongst former pupils.
That's you and me with a Sat'day morning detention then, Sheila.....
Still had Sat dets in 64 then. Don`t remember incident with Miss Holland but will ask next time I see her
Hello Sailor (now that's an old line)
Sure Jackie will be pleased that she has been remembered. Will be interested to know if the tale I heard of her schooldays was correct.
Are you on the 6th form photo on this site as well? Can see Jackie standing at the front.
And yes, Saturday morning detentions were still given throughout the 60's.
So Elsie, our paths may cross again if we get one for this.....
Can`t say when I will see her it`s only when our paths cross in town. I am not on photo didn`t stay on to the lofty heights of the sixth. The staff photo is when we started, remember all of them some not too kindly, we had a Minnie, Miss Mosely on the right.
I`ve been studying the photo of the sixth form, I think it is the junior sixth as the ones I recognise are younger than me, they were 4th year when I was 5th, JJJ is probably on it because she was Head Girl.
Pleased to read that JJJH and Garth Jones have not been forgotten. Both were my contemporaries at GGS. I haven't seen JJJH for many decades but I do occasionally meet Garth at our reunions. He doesn't look any different! We played opposite each other in 'The Shoemakers Holiday', produced by Ralph Hidden. Joyce Hidden often attends our reunions.
Good to hear that some former pupils continue to hold reunions. I really think that schooldays were the best years of our life without the responsibilities of adulthood. Hard to believe that now that it was so long ago.
I still remember my first day at GGS over 50 years ago. Having spent much of the school holidays helping to sew name tags into every piece of uniform, I ventured forth into this brave new world with my new uniform and 'pork pie' hat carrying a new satchel over my shoulder containing only a pencil case and an Oxford Concise Dictionary. I still have it as well. Still also have the Bible, school hymn book and geometry set we were given on that momentous day.
Remember that many of the boys in the 1st year were wearing their first pair of long trousers but some were still in short trousers. These days even the smallest of boys wear long trousers. How times change.....
School outfitters, Gordon Clarke's opposite Tower Cinema on Carlisle St. Close to where the Paradise Club sprang up....
Or the Co-op drapers on Boothferry Road...
What about the length of your trousers then? If I remember correctly, you wore long.
Was the Paradise Club a former wallpaper shop or was it a carpet shop? Remember going in there and trying to wear something that would 'glow' under the UV lights.
Short pants at first then long later. We had to wear the cap until the end of the Third Year as well. I was going for the Jimmy Clitheroe look....
This may be apocryphal, perhaps someone will know, but I remember it being said that under Mr Latimer's headship, those who stayed on an extra year in the 6th form to go for Oxbridge entrance, many of whom would reach the age of 20 during that year, still had to wear the school cap walking to and from school!
School caps were essential even in to the 6th form although many were discarded on walking through the school gates, unless staff were cycling passed.
Good to hear that Gordon Clarke's is still remembered. My mother managed the shop for several years although I still didn't get long trouser until the 2nd year! The shop (School Outfitter), was situated almost directly opposite the library and the Tower Cinema.
I can remember my time as one of Lenny's serfs as if it was just yesterday, and woe betide you if you didn't wear your school cap! Ewan Dennis who was in my year, tossed his cap into the Ouse from the bus one day crossing Boothferry Bridge. The cap was returned to him a few days later - name tag helped in the reunion.
Remember that the 6th form boys looked a tad silly in their caps. Especially when most were over 6 ft tall. Mr Teed (the new Head) was responsible for changing the 6th form uniform to a grey suit and a different tie (plain navy with a gold Viking ship). The 6th form girls wore any coloured blouse or sweater with their suits. Some retained their original uniform but wore the new tie. The caps/hats were no longer part of their uniform.
I did not like the Prefect system when I was a younger boy. It was licensed bullying, in my opinion.
Some certainly enjoyed the power of the prefect status. Maybe it was worse for the boys.
Think it was all the gold braid that went to their heads.....
I'm not saying they were all bad but I had a scary moment which I have never forgotten. I was a Milk Monitor in the first form and went to get the milk. There were two of them in the washroom and I was chucked like a rugby ball between the pair of them and slapped a few times. I remember the name of one of them but I won't name him here....all pock-marked and bad breath...
There was one pompous pr...efect who enjoyed dishing out essays and lines to excess. One of his favourite lines we had to copy was, " Where ignorance predominates, vulgarity invariably asserts itself ". Ring any bells ? Wonder where they are now......
That WAS bullying. Think anyone would have been scared.
I would be tempted to name and shame.....
But what a thing to write, no wonder you remember it.
Maybe someone else will recognise him from your description.
On a lighter note, a friend of my sister was given 4 sides by one of the games mistresses but not told what to write. So, she wrote "I am bad". The teacher was not impressed but didn't do anything about it.
Think I got the individuals mixed up there but sure you know what I mean.
Maybe they were bullied themselves or had a serious lack of self confidence. However, that does not justify bullying.
I believe very strongly in Karma. What goes around comes around...
I used to have the same philosophy but now feel that there are occasions when it is right to speak out. Let's hope that they did receive their come uppance from someone else.
It would be a shame if their children were bullied. The sins of the fathers and all that .....
Ah, well it's a long time ago. Blimey, over fifty years since we first walked through the gates. We had better get back on topic or we will be getting the red card when webmaster gets back from his hols...still, memories are memories...
I remember the new science block when it was first built. The views were impressive with the river snaking off in the distance. Did I read somewhere that has gone now ? Test-tube Taylor for Chemistry. Dr Gray for Physics. Was Mr Bennett the Biology teacher ?
I haven't been called to Mr Teed's study yet over that Jackie business. I think we may have got away with it Sheila...
Quite scary that it was so long ago when we first ventured through those school gates. Yet my memories remain vivid. My neighbour's child will be starting senior school in September and I have been telling her about my first day. She has already had several visits to the new school, thereby alleviating some of her anxieties. We had nothing. Talk about being thrown in at the deep end....
And yes, the science block has now been demolished. There appears to be many more new buildings now.
We had Dr Gray for Chemistry but not sure what Mr Bennett taught. I thought it was Physics but I could be wrong. Can't remember who taught us Biology in the first year but thereafter it was JJJH. I still have my school reports so will have to look and check. Unless of course someone else out there can provide that information.
You're probably right about Dr Gray and Chemmy and now I think of it, I think we had dear old Hutch for Physics, complete with Albert and the Lion....if you were there you will know what I mean....I think old Bennett was my 3rd year form master too. Shows what an impression HE made. Can't remember what he taught ! LOL.
A bit off the wall this question for you Sheila. Was your doctor by any chance Dr Mukherji near the New Bridge pub ? We may have shared a joke ( you being a nurse ) in the waiting room one evening surgery Summer 73/74. I was limping out of his office after a very painful jab below the Equator....if not, then try and forget what I just said. LOL. I said try....
Going to the seaside tomorrow for a week. You can guess where. Weather not looking good though. As long as they serve Stella and Guinness....bye for now....
Mr Bennet did teach biology. He was a good man and a good teacher.
Sorry Bill. I didn't mean to imply he wasn't a good man. I just wasn't sure what subject he taught.
No Elsie, I never nursed in Goole unless you include my time with the National Blood Service ('95 to '99) when I came back to the town to stick needles into people for their donation. Do recall taking a donation from Dave Crabtree at a Snaith session. My career took me to Pontefract, where I met my hubby, then Harrogate, Leeds, NBS and latterly Dewsbury. Funnily enough, that is where Mr Bennett lives. Well, he did in 2001 when we had the class of '63 reunion.
We had dear old Hutch for Maths and yes, it did include Albert and the Lion.
Enjoy your break on the Yorkshire coast. Bracing or what ....
We have just had a break in Whitby with the grandchildren. Just love the fish and chips there.
Heyup you lot!
anyone at the Modern school in the sixties. Its not the 'Last of the summer wine yet you know'.
Right, lets get down to business. anyone remember:
Tag Taylor, Geoff Eastwood, Steve Marshall, Sue Littlefield, Sue Moss, Dean Murphy, Dave Thompson, but a few, They were in my class with Len Townend, (I wonder what became of Len), good photographer, Sheena ? Christine White, Keith Noon, Mick Brant, Then there was Jimmy Calvert (Hiya jimmy), Phillip Fletcher, Fern ?, Christine Roades, Lil Cross, My memories going now.
Come on you Modern School Lot, lets not let the G.G.S. take the full stage, although I had a good few friends there.
Keep the memories coming you lot.
Cheers, all the best, Ian
I was at Goole Secondary Modern till 1961
So you must remember some Kenning Joe.
Dave, Ken, Stewart, Alan???
Ian, Steve Marshall is my younger brother, he still lives in Goole, he worked at Scunthorpe steelworks for most of his working life and is now happily retired. Still happily married with two sons.
Your right mate we aren't quite Compo's age yet. Yeah I remember in your class Geoff Eastwood (loved his Football), Adrian Hird (Loved Football & cheese & onion crisps). Strange some of the things you remember. In my class David Cross (Loved horse racing). Also remember Malcolm Rocket from Old Goole (Good lad, same as yourself).
You did well and remembered more names than me.
Pleased you have achieved a response from your peer group.
Looking at some of your class mates rang a few bells. I remember Geoff Eastwood as he only lived around the corner in Westfield Ave. I was at Pasture Rd infants with his younger brother Howard or Clint as he was called in the 60's.
Pleased you have achieved a response from your peer group.
Looking at some of your class mates rang a few bells. I remember Geoff Eastwood as he only lived around the corner in Westfield Ave. I was at Pasture Rd infants with his younger brother Howard or Clint as he was called in the 60's.
Yes Ian, I remember Kenneth Kenning, we were in the same class at school, a keen footballer if I remember rightly.
Hi Adrian Lee,
Your name rings a bell. I went to Hook Primary school in the 1960's when it was opposite the Memorial Hall ( one of the walls we used for hand stands is still there). Mr Hewson was head teacher and Mrs Jenkinson and Miss Blanchard were the other two teachers. My class mates were Richard Fawbert, Peter Brooks, Helen Chiswell, Maureen Challenger and Karen Garner whose mum and dad ran the village Newsagents. Only three classes and 60 in the school. What a shock we got when we went to Grammar school with hundreds of pupils. A huge school hall and what seemed like hundreds of classrooms that were a complete maze when the bell went for the next lesson. I seem to remember you had blond hair and you were a bit older than me. I was born end of 1955?
Peter Kirkpatrick, I went through GGS from 1st to 5th year same class as Euan Dennis he was my mate, are you sure you were in the same year your name does not ring a bell and I can remember mostnames of people in my year.
Dobby, you probably had shorts to 2nd year because you were small, thats what made you a good hooker, you could swing on the props. Also wasn`t 58 the shock of Mike Dobson winning the mile
Hello Sailor (some time since I've used that one!) -
I seemed to remember that Euan (sorry, I got his name wrong) was in the same year as me, but he could have been in the year above. Been a long time, and we've all passed a lot of water since then.
I was in the same year as Charlie May, Ian Telfer, Bruce Watson, Pete Harrand, Quent Bryars, and other such luminaries. (I think Gav was in the year above.)
Didn't really know Euan that well, but do recall the tale of the discarded school cap. Funny, that. Can't really remember a whole lot - I did weave through the Sixties, after all - but some little memories seem to hang in there.
Peter Kirkpatrick,definately below us Quent and Gavin lived in next street to me, Gav is my age.
Heyup lads and lasses.
Sue, Jim, Sheila, Dennis. (Wheres the rest) Mick Brant, Sue Clark, Tim Perry, Ian Kelly, Phil Fletcher, Col Taylor, Dean Murphy, Pete Tomlinson, Christine Roads.
Glad to see your memories are still operational guys. GGS, was that the school opposite the real Mc choy??? (Joke you GGS lot).
Anyway, I know a lot more names but don't want to give your brains too much at once to confuse you, one thing I was noticed for was having a good memory. Pity it wasn't around when I was doing my exams.
Do you remember the tuck shop outside the Modern School gates (Newport street) had some good times outside chatting to the lasses. Shena Rose, Susan Whittaker, Sue Moss, Carol Cremin, Sue Clark. Aaaaahhhhh it takes me back. Very Happy Carefree Days. Come on you lot get your brains active and give us some more names to remember. Jimmy Calvert, remember when you and I were learning to drive in your dads vauxhall down Old Goole? and me staying over at your place and getting merry on Woodpeckers cider and Whiskey???
I think you are copying all the names off an old school photograph mate -ha ha.
I remember the tuck shop in Newport street though more so the one near Boothferry road school, as I spent most of my time in it. Some names I remember from there are Terence Sweeting, Michael Watson, John Price, Bernadette ? Sarah ?
I saw Pete Tomlinson about 15 years ago in the bookies when I was visiting Goole. He recognized me and we had a chat, but I had to ask him his name lol. He said it was me who got him betting, many moons ago.
On our cycle trip to Scarborough remember chatting to some lasses in Peasholm Glen. It took us twice as long to cycle back to Goole (against the wind)
My Dad's Vauxhall Victor 101 Deluxe, a lovely car with good acceleration. Yeah I remember us learning to drive in old Goole and the many drinks afterwards (another hangover).
I think we went in it to see the New Seekers at York.
When we were old enough to drive remember all the country pubs we visited. Great time and your right carefree days.
I wish I had some old school photos. Yes I remember the bike ride, and the girls in Peasholme. we saw the New Seekers at Scarborough, and I think Adrian Hird came with us that weekend. I remember you betting, and liking the horses even when we were at school. I bet you can't remember when you asked me to pick out three horses when we were at your uncle Erics, and all three won. I think one was called Welsh Rabbit. the thing is we didn't put any money on, besides we were too young.
Aye happy great days.
Tommo used to work at Fisons mill, then I believe he is at Everthorpe prison as a warden now.
one thing I will be able to do next week is to get my prescriptions free; (60 years now mate). take care and keep the comments up.
No don't remember the 3 winners mate, but certainly all the fun. You could adventure out & about more when we were at school in safer surroundings than now, People seemed more friendlier as well. Yeah Tommo did say he was working in a prison and that you lose your good looks when you get older (I thought speak for yourself-ha ha). Remember all the lists I used to write for planning days out at Scarborough etc?
Happy birthday for next week old man lol, I have 8 months to go yet till the my 60th. Hope you have a great day.
Who remembers the school trips to the Yorkshire Show, Wimbledon and places of historical interest? An official day off.
Did anyone go to Bewerley Park at Pateley Bridge? A fantastic place for outdoor pursuits.
I did the usual 3 week course and then went back later for an advanced course. Lynne Barker, Dave Wake and Geoff Mason were there at the same time also. Great fun apart from the one horned cow that ate our food supplies.....
Yes I remember the days out, Yorkshire show at the back of the bus and Evans (G.M.S. English teacher)) giving some of us a real smack because we had smuggled some bottles of beer with us. I didn't go to Bewerley Park but had a week in Buxton (Dales), Lugs Brant, Franky Ford.
Your right Jim, some of us still have the looks & the figure (L.O.L.) No hair now though, all the locks have gone like the years. But great times. I have been watching the Likely Lads on telly over the last month (On Drama tv), remember when we watched it a lot. You remind me of Bob and me Terry. You were always one for planning and timing. Keep up the feedback you guys. I'm not on facebook or twitter, not into these things. I like to keep it simple and this site is brilliant.
Ian, would Evans and Frank Ford be the teachers on the Modern School photos on this page, if so Frank was in same year as me and John Evans was a prefect when I was in 5th year, liked having you write out Pythagorus a few times, he is now a neighbour of mine.
I only went on the day trips with school mainly to Scarborough, as I used to go away on my uncles barge quite a bit with my cousin's son Paddy Varley. That was fun.
Yes Likely Lads I thought the same, us as Bob & Terry. I have watched it a lot over the years, still do (Great Humour) and it does take you back.
I miss the Disco days I started going to them in 1972 until 1992 (Wow-enough said).
As you have said before it would be good to hear from others in our year. We keep remembering mate.
your right Jim. I remember Paddy Varley, used to live somewhere at the end of the flats, now on the corner as you turn right to the hospital. Disco's; yes, Donny, Scarborough, York. as you said earlier; the days then were a lot safer and lads and lasses didn't get so drunk and brawl on the streets like today.
Bob and Terry (L.O.L.)
Yes Sailor, Frank and Evensy, those are the ones. Great teachers of their day like many others.
Lets see now: you and I Jim will remember Dog Watson, the other Watson, (Your last form teacher I believe). Len Townend, Finchy, Morris, Whittaker, Denby, Oliver, Taylor, Reevesy, Holroyd, Lugs Brant, England, King, oh a few more but my memories a bid foggy these days. anyway guys keep the memories coming.
Spot on Ian where Paddy used to live. Yeah we didn't get drunk and brawl on the streets, we saved our energy for more important things (lol)
Yes my last form teacher was Mr Watson (good teacher) who taught English. My Commerce teacher Mr Salmon was really good,but didn't like Mr Reveley who taught or shall I say tried to teach me Woodwork.
As Bob & Terry song goes: Tomorrow's almost over
Today went rather fast
It's the only thing to look forward to-
Yes your name is familiar too.Terry Brooks was one of my best friends before the family moved out to Scarborough.Karen Garner still lives in Hook in Garth Lane,a couple of doors away from my eldest son who lives in the house I was brought up in.Hope you are well,will keep looking on the site as so many familiar names are regularly posting messages.
Yes I remember the Brooks family moving to Scarborough. We lived down Balk Lane in a bungalow privately built by Terry's dad. My Auntie Doreen Cooper and family lived in the house down Garth Lane before Karen. Karen's husband Pip died recently. Sad. Just been to an exhibition at the Junction in Goole. Several old school photo's there. There was a photo of my friends and I as cheer leaders for Hook cricket club at Hook gala. What an event that used to be.
Just came accross this site by chance lots of names I know from Goole Secondary Modern.Dean Murphey we grew up together in the villagesI hail from Adlingfleet Dean from Ousefleet.He was a couple of years below me at school.I was in 1B at the start of school in 1965 then 2A 1966 with Rob Thomlinson Brother to Pete Thomlinson mentioned above.Me and Rob moved to Stafford whilst working for Carlsberg along with other ex modern school lads Steve Best, Ray Martin ,Cliff Thornhill, Trevor Greaves (Pedro).Gary Atkins, Pete Roberts, Rob Kenning.Rob was in the same form as me all through school along with Graham Smith, Geoff Wilson, David Straughn, George Morrill (Mop) sadly died in car crash at a very young age, Remember a few of the girls Heather White, Julie Gale, Cath, Mrgeret Walshaw, Jennifer Johnson, Susan Noon, Annie Woolass, I remember games lessons football we played skins and shirts one side played without their shirts on if you did games with Kingy (Mr King) he would then give the whistle to one of us to referee and clear off to the staff room .Cricket with Evensy, if you dropped a catch he would stand you 10 yards away and throw the cricket ball at you , he fancied himself as a demon fast bowler.
Thank you for that. I remember Quent very well, and played cricket against him a few times in the form matches. He had a very suspect bowling action, that gave him a lethal grass-cutter, causing his LBW victims to have to hobble painfully off the field.
I knew Gav only slightly. After leaving GGS, and probably whilst at college, he used to play some gigs at Greaseborough Social Club near Donny. I'm pretty sure that he backed Duane Eddy there, amongst many other visiting stars.
Was it apparent back then that he was a musical genius?
Are you back yet, Elsie?
Yes, back now. 'twere a bit blowy in Scarbados that week...by 'eck. I popped up on Shops and Shopping as the Clitheroe Kid but didn't get any nibbles....tee hee...
Welcome back Elsie but sorry about the lack of nibbles...
Suppose we are the last generation to know who Jimmy Clitheroe was. How sad is that?
Reading Ian's earlier comments about the 'Likely Lads' brought back a few memories. Think TV was more entertaining in our youth, even though we only had 2 channels. None of the current 'reality' rubbish.
If you want really old school telly, check out Billy Bunter of Greyfriars School on You Tube....1950's...
First telly we had, worked off the gas......
Kids today wouldn't believe you...
Oh! Dear! Sad to say that I remember Billy Bunter too and 'Whacko!' with Jimmy Edwards. TV didn't even start until 5pm with the likes of Ivanhoe, The Lone Ranger, Hopalong Cassidy and Robin Hood. Now that brings to mind a funny story...... In 1991, a young lady requested that the organist play the theme tune for Robin Hood as she walked down the aisle with her new husband. Unfortunately, the aged organist was unaware of the film 'Robin Hood Prince of Thieves' and played the Richard Greene version. Hmm! Not quite what she expected....
Remember when we did not have a telly and our ears was glued to the Radio awaiting the broadcast of Wilfred And Mable Pickels at the Goole Burtons Clothing Factory.
Wilfred would run a quiz if you had the right answer the cry would come out give em the money Mabel you got £1 if you got the question right, Wilfred and Mabel had a regular show on the radio they would travel the length breth of the U/k.
Before we had a telly we used to Que up to whatch Telly through the glass door and listen through the letter box when quatermas was on at Richardson shop on Pasture Road Happy Times.
Anon Old Codger 70 plus.
Anon Old Codger
Remember the Quatermass trilogy very well.Quatermass Experiment in 1953,Quatermas II and finally Q. and the Pit.
Wilfrid Pickles also had a tv quiz programme "Ask Pickles"
Two soap operas come to mind "The Appleyards" and "the Grove Family".
Don't forget "The Adventures of William Tell" and "Dixon of Dock Green" ("Evening all")
Wow! Now we are really going back. Loved 'Dixon of Dock Green' every Saturday. Later we had 'Z Cars' with a very young Brian Blessed as 'Fancy' Smith. (He didn't have such a loud voice then). 'Dr Finlay's Casebook' and ohhh! Dr Kildare, what a charmer. Didn't know then that he batted for the other side. At that age, I didn't even know about the other side......
I also remember listening to 'Worker's Playtime' on the radio when we came home from school for dinner. Sunday was always '2 way Family Favourites' and 'Round the Horn' or 'The Goon Show', followed by 'Sing Something Simple' when we had the big Sunday tea.
Monday nights 7pm on the radio "Journey into Space."
What about 'The Billy Cotton Band Show'
Hi Elsie, Lou Laister (Lulu) lived next to my wife`s auntie in Widop St. he got me to ring a Scottish newspaper telling them he had found a piece of paper in a tin of corned beef saying good luck to our boys at El Alamein. Lots of the pubs had quotes, poems and cartoons he had done on their walls. Oops, mistake, should have sent this to the Clitheroe Kid.
Nice one Sailor. Lovely reply. Surprised more people haven't commented on Lu Lu's postcards from back in the day. Any more stories on this ?
"Wakey-Wake-aaaay". Alan Breeze,Kathy Kay,Russ Conway,Mrs Mills.Didn't realise until recently that Terry Jones and Michael Palin,later of Monty Python,wrote jokes for the show.
They seek him here they seek him there, The scarlet Pimpernel, and Dan Dare the Pilot of the future and his mate Didby. those were the days.
I initially felt quite young reading some of these memories as I had not heard of them but sadly, there are some that I do remember.
My mum loved Russ Conway and we had many of his records. On 78's, I hasten to add.........
Hiya Sheila. I think we all strayed off the SCHOOL theme a bit back didn't we...but I hate it when a lovely comment goes unanswered for so long. Russ Conway. Yes. Side Saddle. Del Shannon, Little Swiss Maid and of course, Hats off to Larry...Lonnie Donegan and the Rock Island Line...Elvis and even Paper Roses, Anita Bryant. Connie Francis, Roy Orbison, Johnny Tillotson, Conway Twitty.....Mario Lanza....this was the music our parents played on the old radiogram ( do you remember that word ? ) in the new red brick council houses that we lived in during the 50's and 60's. Our own favourite tunes we collected in later decades yes, but I bet everyone remembers their mam and dads favourites.....
You forgot Bill Haley!
You're right Dennis. So many not on the list, I know. As soon as I sent it, I remembered the great Buddy Holly....
Yes anyone the lived through the 50s/60s lived in the best time.
Bill Haley!,saw Rock around the Clock at the Carlton 56/57 and Buddy Holly and the Crickets live at the Regal, Hull 58. What about the other greats of the late 50s Little Richard.Fats Domino,Ricky Nelson, Chuck Berry,Johnny and the Hurricanes, Duane Eddy, I could go on but then you lot were only little kids then weren`t you lol.
Bill Haley!,saw Rock around the Clock at the Carlton 56/57 and Buddy Holly and the Crickets live at the Regal, Hull 58. What about the other greats of the late 50s Little Richard.Fats Domino,Ricky Nelson, Chuck Berry,Johnny and the Hurricanes, Duane Eddy, I could go on but then you lot were only little kids then weren`t you lol.
Here's a few more:-
Bobby Darin, Big Bopper, Eddie Cochran, Booker T and the MGs, Carl Perkins, Dion, Frankie Avalon, Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers, Little Anthony and the Imperials, Paul Anka, Ritchie Valens and Tommy James and the Shondells.
And no ones mentioned the king.. ELVIS !!
Have a look on tropicalglen dot com you'll fid them all on there.
Who was interested when we had Lita Roza, Dennis Lotis, Joan Regan, Marion Ryan etc? Lol.
The King? the original manufactured artist, if it hadn`t been for Col. Tom Parker he would have been nowhere see some of the old 50s black and white recordings rubbish!.
Glancing through this web site and came across one or two names I recognised, Karen Neville, Adrian Lee and Pete Fenwick. I also lived in Hook (well still do), when I was growing up I lived in Garth Close now living in Mount View. Nice to see you are all still going strong.
Replying to Elsie's comment of 13/08/2014.
I remember the pompous prefect who used to give out the 'Where ignorance predominates .... ' lines - I got some of those - what a plonker !
I also remember some very good teachers - Mr Hutchinson for physics, Mr Bennett for biology, Mr Taylor for chemistry, Mr Hall for physics and we had a lovely maths teacher, I've forgotten her name but I think it was Miss Bradley.
Happy days ! Graham.
I remember, with great fondness, our trips to the School Hut on Walkers Farm in Nidderdale each summer. The trips to schools in Batley to talk to the Asian children who would visit us at the campsite for a week at a time during summer holidays. It was great briefing them on what suitable clothing to bring with them and a sleeping bag as they would be Kipping in tents in the field in front of the school hut. Then watching them climb off the coaches wearing shorts, t shirts and plastic sandals carrying a rolled up blanket - bless them! But it was fantastic taking them hill walking, rock climbing, pot holing, swimming and the trip to the seaside at Scarborough on the Thursday each week was great to see the look on some of their faces at seeing the sea for the first time. The evening walks down the road to Pateley Bridge, trying to get the pub landlord at the pub next to the bridge to sell us beer was fun. Remember well the time he let us have a pint of Old Peculiar and then going back to camp to drink, covertly, a half bottle of whiskey between us. Sore head the next morning!! Who else remembers those balmy summers at Walkers Farm in Nidderdale?
Hi Sue O'brien. My mate. Hook School together then we got separated only to come together later on at the Blacksmiths disco on a friday and sunday night. Remember the holiday when we were 16 in Cayton Bay in our touring caravan? Happy days. I still think I'm going home when i come down Hook road. Hope you're happy and well. Karen xxx
Is that the Graham Beamson that many years ago (Sorry Graham) used to go to the Boothferry Road School and was in the same class as myself, Hugh Ferriman, Graham Glew, Mick Brant, Ian Kelly, Gary Vaux, and many more guys and gals?
Also known as 'Prof'. if it is then hope you are keeping well and lets all keep this contact site alive. good to hear from some folks are older than myself but the names are familiar through my older brothers and sister. keep well All.
Response to Sue O, Brian nee Moore .Hi Sue now live in Stafford still married to Sue Clarke that was.Still gave contact with lots of ex Carlsberg staff.Still get back to Goole to see family.Now retired from NHS took early retirement.Enjoying some free time.Goole does not change much but thats a good thing sometimes.Hope you are well.
Some good musical memories in the latest comments that we played on the radiogram. Such progress to have something that would stack about 6 records. We may have been only small but as records stayed in the charts for longer in the 50's, we can still remember them. My parents also liked The Platters and The Inkspots as well as Mario Lanza. I liked the Drinking Song from the 'Student Prince'(again on a 78).
Then the memories flipped to Booker T and the MGs. Time is Tight, brilliant.
Interested to read the comments about the school hut in the Dales. I believe it was bought in 1967 and a group of us had great fun making 2 canoes for it in Woodwork. Girls were not normally allowed to do woodwork but it was decided that we should have a 'creative' double lesson a week as a break from 'O' levels. Never found out if they floated though....... Maybe someone can enlighten me.
For Bryan Ramsey, Arthur Kendal & Barry Spinks & any other 1950 GGS starters.
Sorry, I have only just seen your replies to my last comments.
Bryan, you must be feeling your age as you did not ask me for Pam Gash's last know whereabouts!!!
Some other lovely lasses were mentioned in your comments. Just to jog your memories I will add Sue Appleton, Jean Blackburn, Helen Crowther, Ann Howdle & Joan Hislop !!! More to follow if required.
Anyhow, good to hear you are all well.
FOR IAN KENNING.
Hello Ian. When were you at Boothferry Rd. School?
I taught there 1960-64.
Well Rod, or should I say Mr Lumley. I was at Boothferry Road school infants from 1958 - 1961. Then went to the Juniors next door as it was in those days.
Mrs Hall was my first teacher juniors, then my final teacher was Mr Greensides. I still remember a few of them. I remember your name but Obviously I wasn't in your form.
I have a few brothers and a sister older than me so perhaps it was one of them. Anyway, it is nice to here from you and hope all the guys and gals on this site keep it alive.
happy memories and days.
Would one of your brother be 2 or 3 years older than you? I have a feeling I taught a 'Kenning', or had one in the football team!
Didn't realize Mr Greensides taught at Boothferry Rd School he taught at the Modern School when I knew him ?
Confirm that Mr.Greenside(s) did teach at Boothferry Road Junior School as he was my form teacher in 1954/55, the year before the 11 plus.
I remember Charlie Greensides at Boothferry too. I think he switched between BRS and the Modern School more than once. I think his wife switched too - I remember her being at BRS. Didn't they live in Centenary Road? I wasn't in Mr. Greensides class, but he did teach some of our geography lessons. We did Canada and the prairie provinces - Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan - and fishing in Vancouver where they used flat bottomed boats called scows - "It's spelt like a cow with a 's' on each end" he said. He was bit scary as most of the other teachers were women (except for the head Mr Millward and the two Mr Lumley's, one succeeding the other), but always enthusiastic.
Robert , What years was Mr Greenside at BRS as I seem to remember him being at the SMS from 1951 to 1955.
I'm fairly sure 1960.
Yes Robert, What puzzled me Paul states he was at BRS 1954/5.
To Rod Lumley.......I was at school (BRS and the Modern School) with KENNETH Kenning, and he was a keen footballer, so I guess it's the same person.
It looks like, as I said, Mr Greensides switched between BRS and SMS several times. I've just looked up my old school reports (I know, sad!) and CG's initials are next to Craft 1959-60, and Geography 1960-61.
I've checked the years 1954/55 for Mr Greenside being at BRS and confirm that he was. I have a photograph of the school football team( including me) for that year and Charlie definitely taught me.
Wouldn't forget him as he stopped me playing sport on Wednesdays (with the school team) and Fridays with my year.It was subsequently rescinded to allow me to play with the school team but on Fridays I had to join a form from the year above and learn a poem and then recite in front of the class.Put me off poetry and it was reinforced at secondary level in Hull having to learn a poem,reciting,or writing out from memory with the correct punctuation,
Two teachers I recall from the infants (?) were the headmistress, Miss Spencer and Mrs Hartley.Have a photo in the infants playground with those two teachers and there were 3 others but can't recall their names.
To Rod and Dennis.
Yes guys Kenneth is my brother, as you say a keen footballer. My eldest brother is David, then Kenneth, Stewart, Alan then my sister Jill, then Stephen. I'm the youngest. We lost our eldest sister Avril about fifteen years ago.
Mr, or Charlie Greensides, as with many others of this generation were the 'what I call the old stalwarts' they hit you when you needed it and congratulated you when you didn't.
I had a great time at all my schools and had many a good friend, some still with us, some sadly not.
BRS infants teachers: Mrs. Bellamy, Mrs. Shand, Miss Walker, Mrs. Hopley. Headmistress Miss Spencely.
Thanks for correcting my memory for the name of the headmistress and I now recollect the names Bellamy and Shand.I remember a boy, Peter Shand, a relative of the teacher? Recall Miss Spencely with her round glasses and tweedy jacket,a third of a pint of milk a day,cod liver oil capsule,half an hour lie down in the afternoon,knitting and sewing lessons.The latter have proved useful over the years.
have nt been on line fer ages great to here from sheila and baza moved on from vodka to whiskey saw steve hunt last week another one retired much more fun working
sheila n bazza fantastic to here from ya roy houghton never left rawcliffe bridge looks a lonely old geezer
Well hello Graham. Pleased to hear you are fit enough to continue working. They do say that farmers never retire. However, I will refrain from saying the next line.....
Personally, I think retirement is much more fun than working. And on these rotten, wet and cold mornings, it is great not to have to venture outside unless I want to. There is also a big wide world out there to explore and we intend to see as much of it as possible before ill health prevents us from doing so.
Suppose Steve Hunt would have had to retire. Not sure what the age limit is for airline pilots but reckon it is before 65. His wife, Margaret, lived in our street when we are at junior school.
Do you see Roy Houghton often then, or anyone else come to that?
Just had a seniors moment and surfed the net for Goole Grammar; what a surprise. The years at Goole Grammar were the best at school for me.
Baz don't remember the Caldwell incident; but did get caught by Mr Latimer for lashing out with my foot as we went down the stairs. Can't remember who the intended victim was but got to stand outside the headmaster's office all afternoon for my trouble.
So pleased you found this site. Your brother was on it some time ago. I lost your email address when we had computer problems and tried again when I found the contact list from the reunion. Guess you must have a new email address now, as do we.
Think we all have fond memories of our school days but maybe we did not appreciate it at the time. Reckon you did not have an easy job as our form monitor though. Still remember when Mr Chappell blamed you for Miss Clarke losing control of the class. Hardly fair.
Did this all happen in 3D and in the classroom at the front, ground floor, on the side of the main building adjacent to the old metalwork shop? I do have vague memories of a class out of control.
Thanks again for the reunion photo;it's with a copy of the 2D photo. Also found a photo of the Kingsway football team 62/63 with Gareth Haywood and John Ford; we lost 3-0 to Boothferry Road at the Pleasure Ground.
Your memory serves you right, that was the classroom but it was a few of the boys causing the problem. We girls were quite well behaved. (No comments please) Probably because there were so few of us and we were somewhat outnumbered. Remember once when all the boys were kept back at the end of a lesson and the girls were allowed to leave. Believe that was Miss Clarke also.
Good to hear about your footballing days at Kingsway yet only 5 years later, John had died. So sad.
hi sheila ive heard there is a world outside airmyn but i went to scaboro once and didnt like it stick to home with my guns and my faithful dogs. Seriously though great to here from so many in Dform how did we get away with all scams we used to get up to
Well Graham, maybe you should have gone to Whitby instead of Scarborough then you too may have had the urge to travel more. Better fish and chips in Whitby too......
Not sure how many of you got away with your scams. Maybe it was the cheeky smiles and general daftness. Dib! Dib! Roooaaar! Believe it was Terry Triffitt who started it but where did it originate from? Even Mr Ferriman started doing it. Bless him.
hi sheila me again late last night half way down a bottle of finest coffin varnish (teachers) i got rather sad at the number of guys who have nt made it this far was that the terry broughton i played rugby with in goole times recently . gonna stop reading deaths column just in case im in .not in this week cigs and booze aint got me yet but travelling the world could love to see you sometime maybe on our 63rd birthday
For Bryan Ramsey, Arthur Kendal & Barry Spinks & any other 1950 GGS starters.
Reference Rod Lumley's comments
I am just back from holiday on a Railway Tour of Cambodia and Vietnam with wife Jennifer.
I remember all the girls you mentioned, Sue Appleton, Jean Blackburn, Helen Crowther, Ann Howdle & Joan Hislop, Pam Gash !!!
However i have not heard from any for a long while. Jean Blackburn lived up here in Scotland for a while but she was moving back to Goole a couple of years ago and i have lost touch.
The only person that I hear from on a regular basis on Face book is Margaret Hockney, sadly Doreen died a few years ago.
I still make an annual visit to Goole around Christmas but I hardly ever see any body that I know, I would love to say hello to any one that could remember me.
Anyhow, good to hear from you Rod
Lay off the 'coffin varnish', it's a depressant and I think your description of it should be giving you a clue regarding it's lack of benefits.
Don't think I know Terry Broughton, so am unable to answer your question.
As for meeting up, weather permitting at that time of year, sounds like a possibility. We are in the phone book.
Are you in contact with anyone else from our schooldays?
Hello Barrie Spink - Well travelled! Still a train buff, I see. I have nine grandchildren, four locally, here in Braintree, Essex, and the others in Surrey and Witney (Oxon). I don't expect to be in Goole at Yule but anyway, glad you and Jennifer are well.
Here's a little extract from an article I wrote a year or so ago - thought it might stir a memory or two.
Boyhood memories of my home town, Goole, East Yorkshire, are happy and full of sunshine. Away from the house were great outdoor adventures down froggy lanes and in the eerie stillness of mysterious woods, long exciting safaris in endless summers along the banks of the Yorkshire Ouse, west, to the monumental Boothferry Bridge. To the east was what we called ‘The Island’. It was a wide shelf of land projecting into the river and offering a dense jungle-like hinterland of amazing discoveries, wartime shells, flotsam from sunken ships, and stinking dead pigs. There were strange gigantic bushes with spring loaded purple flowers that burst and sprayed seeds in your face when you touched them. The years pass, five of the family I grew up with have left this life and the three survivors, Chris, Viv and me, are all members of the Bahá’í Faith.
Best wishes to you and yours Barrie - and all our old GGS friends, circa. 1950 to 1955.
I see living in Braintree you moved to a town with a Port, although of a different nature with a stream,the River Brain, compared to the mighty Ouse.I live on the River Crouch and the ditch near the paddling/boating lake in West Park would give it a run for its money.Lol.
I was in Goole today visiting a friend from my early childhood.
She lives opposite your 'hill' so I thought of you.
For Robert Ward.
When I taught at BRS (60-64), I had a John Ward played in goal for the soccer team. Any relation?
Mr & Mrs Greensides taught there as did Mrs Hall. Miss Cowling Mrs Moore amongst others.
I am looking to establish links with Roy Mapplebeck again-my email was hacked and I lost my contacts here in Manila.Please contact me again-so many memories to firstname.lastname@example.org The website is really interesting,memories of Mr Latimer,DingDong Bell,and etc...How about Miss Scurrah and Norah Charlton?
Miss Scurrah was our form teacher when we started G.G.S in 1967. Room 7. Followed by 2 years in room 8 with Mr (Festus) Ferriman. Mr Teed was the head and Arnie Chappell deputy head, with Miss Williams as head of the girls. She enforced the wearing of our GGS hats and the uniform had just changed to blue and white striped blouses with no ties for girls. We came from the tiny school at Hook and got all rigged up at Gordon Clarke's down Carlisle street.
It wasn't long after Miss Williams left that the staff began losing their grip and kids began to rule a lot more! Smoking at the back of the class etc. I loved every minute of my time there. Left Xmas 1972 as John Lennon's 'Merry Xmas' came out. Remember sobbing listening to it in the school hall.
To Rod Lumley, I`ve just read an e-mail of yours on Feedback from 2003. Doug Abbey lived opposite us in Empson Ave. in the 50s. I also remember him as Harbour Master when I was at sea,once we were coming in to Goole via Ocean Lock and while heaving round the knuckle into the lock the wire snapped and the ragged end whipped across the quay and ripped the lapel of his coat, if he had been six inches nearer the lock wall it would have been a different story. Remember you from school, I was there 53-58 also knew your Joyce quite well talked to her a lot when she was at Elite. T.C.
How old would Mr J L Latimer have been in 1960? I think he retired in 1964 but was he 65 then? And when did he die? I'm doing some writing and would be interested to have the facts rather than my juvenile recollections!
With Ref to Karen Neville's comment regarding standards slipping and smoking at backs of classes. Utter tosh, in all my time at GGS (70-75) I never once encountered students having the upper hand against teachers or the filthy habit of smoking at the back of classroom. GGS for a fantastic school to attend, with high standards in student behaviour and teaching standards that were exemplary. I wouldn't think there is a soul on this planet who does not look back now and think boy that was a great time they had at school and the best preparation they could have had for adult life. Don't know what happened post summer of 75 when it changed to being a High School but when it was a pure Grammar School it was the envy of the area and rightly so.
I am not insinuating that Goole Grammar school was not a good school, it was a fantastic school and I thank God I passed for Grammar School at my '11 plus' after being home schooled while living in Tunisia for the year leading up to it. I wouldn't have missed those precious years for anything. I am stating fact, though when I say that there was smoking at the back of our class (boys not girls) before I left in the early 70's. I distinctly remember the teacher telling one boy to put out his cigarette and he retorted "what are you gonna do about it?". There were excellent teachers but there were some who didn't have the same authority and these were the ones that were taken advantage of. I will point out, however, that I was in D group for some subjects and it never happened in the higher grade classes. But happen it did !!
I was sad to read in this weeks Goole Times of the death of Mr Hall, a teacher at G.G.S when we were there.
I can concur with Karen Neville about the smoking incident at the back of the classroom as I was in the same group. I don't remember if it happened more than once or not though.
Things were a little bit different in my day. The seniors used to push us around sometimes, as did some of the prefects, but nothing unusual about that.
I've often looked back on my time at GGS with real fondness. I was fortunate to be with a great bunch of classmates as we moved up through the school, though I've not seen most of them now for 50 years or so! Mr Latimer ran a tight ship, and seemed strict but fair. 'Gus Turner, our art teacher, could be a bit scary, but he was always one of my favourite teachers, along with Mr Branson, 'Festus' Ferriman, and 'Elvis' Hall. There were of course a few eccentrics - 'Fritz' Hargreaves and his spider/fly conundrum, 'George' Stones and his open windows, 'Bud' Ramsey, 'Boiler-head' Wright, and 'Wild Bill' Petch et al. Then there was Ma Bell, Miss Coughlin, who did her utmost to get us roughs to speak and write 'proper' English - and of course 'Joyce' Collet who we all (the boys, anyway) had a crush on.
Ah, happy days!
Mr Latimer may have run a tight ship but I would not be so ready to sing his praises. My impression of him was that he was unnecessarily sarcastic, a bit of a snob and possibly a bully. His replacement by the far superior Mr Teed was to be welcomed.
Good grief I have just spent hours looking through the page with fond memories.I was there 1963 to 1968 when I left in the first term of lower 6th to get a job with the local accountants P A Waltham & Co up by the library and Yorkshire Bank.
In our first year Mr Latimer was Head, separate Boys/Girls staircase etc. Mr Teed was more liberal and relaxed some of the more outdated rules.Did we really have to wear a cap? and the craze of cap de-bobbling!!
Hope everyone is well from that era and some of you may remember me.
Bill - Though he was armed with a cane, he was no Wackford Squeers. I guess Mr Latimer was of his time, a relic of another age (he would be around 115 or so by now, if he'd still been with us). One of my clearest memories of him is how often in assembly he was asking us to remember bring our 'five shullings' for some occasion, event, outing or other.
I guess our views are formed through experience: 'Yet all experience is an arch wherethro'/Gleams that untravell'd world, whose margin fades/For ever and for ever when I move'.
Fortunately I never got the wrong side of Lenny Lat to incur his wrath - did you?
To wean in the wid, a most insightful observation on your part. Yes it's all down to experience. And yes I did once get on the wrong side of Mr L., over a very trivial matter. His treatment of me was pompous and insulting. By contrast, when hauled into Mr Teed's study over a more serious offence, I had the error of my ways intelligently explained to me and was sent away with several works of modern American literature which I read and enjoyed. Hence, my lasting impressions of the two men. Incidentally, what is a wean, in or out of a wid?
Isn't 'Weans- in-the wid' a Scottish term for children in the wood? I believe it is often performed as a panto in Scotland.
I love all the pseudonyms that some people use on this site and sometimes wonder why they feel the need for anonymity. Gets the old grey matter going though, trying to determine who they really are.
As for Mr Latimer, he was a man of his time. I recall being quite scared of him but fortunately, I never crossed him so only ever encountered him at morning assembly. In comparison, Mr Teed was like a breath of fresh air who endeavoured to get to know his pupils.
And hello Ken Bacon. We were at GGS at the same time and although in different forms, I do remember you. Suppose we only ever met when we all had to learn to dance in the Games period prior to the school dances. Can still do the Gay Gordons, Military 2 step and the Valeta etc. Can you?
Not much dancing since school but I think I could still remember the Gay Gordon.(Dance I hasten to add !! Have to be politically correct ).
Cynthia Potter once gave me an instant Saturday morning for running over the Hockey pitch but I managed to reduce this to 2 conduct marks by grovelling about missing assembly and the notices. Was it 3 conduct marks equals a Saturday morning detention???
Bill - any anecdotes about Mr L (and other school teachers from around that time) are always welcome and of interest to me. I'd moved on long before Mr Teed arrived, so never met him. Former GGS pupils that did always seem to speak well of him.
And, Sheila's got it ... If you'd traveled on Glasgow's 'Clockwork Orange' around Christmas, you would have seen posters all over the place advertising the panto that tells a similar tale to that of my lil' sis 'n' me - Weans in the Wid / Babes in the Wood.
Ok wean, I'll repost my favourite anecdote about the wonderful and loveable Mr Hutchinson (Hutch) of Form 1D. In our first week there, when we were all terrified, he was allocating jobs. When he got to the role of window monitor, he explained to the chosen pupil that sometimes the long pole use to open the top sash window would not work. In which case he, the pupil, would have to climb up on to and stand on the window cill to pull down the window. He advised caution and not to repeat the mistake of the previous window monitor who had stepped back to admire his work! Don't know why but found it hilarious at the time and still do. Probably because it showed some humour and humanity- not qualities we had lead to believe existed in the feared form masters at GGS.
Were you and your little sister lost in the 'wid' then, wean?
Hutch was also my first form master Bill. I recall a time when one of the boys was sniffing in class and he said "Stop sniffing boy, what do you think your sleeve is for?" We too found this comment highly amusing but it went a long way to alleviating our first year anxieties.
Pleased you can still do the Gay Gordons Ken. Cannot remember the conduct marks though. So not sure if 3 gave you a Saturday morning. The only punishment I ever received was 2 or 4 sides for some insignificant misdemeanour. Do recall getting a Saturday from Miss Singleton for missing needlework though, despite having sent a message to say I had to attend a French oral exam but she was having none of it. I cannot say on here what I thought of her but it was not very pleasant.....
Bill and Sheila - Yes, I was always getting lost, or falling in the dock when I was a wee wean!
I do remember 'Hutch' well enough, but never attended any of his lessons. I can remember the window-opening rigmaroles at GGS though. Elf 'n' safety, eh? What-oh! Missiles such as chalk and blackboard cleaners from (some of) the teachers - yep, all good fun.
Nice to see a post from Ken Bacon.Dont think I have seen or heard of him since he left.Remember he managed to get run out when he was batting with me at GGS leaving me stranded on 49 n.o,which would have been my first 50.Also nice to see that a former pupil at school,Colin Graves,is now the incoming chairman of the ECB.
Mr Latimer had long gone by the time I started at the school, but his photograph still hung in the lobby. My Father, who had also been at the school in the 1930s, remembered him. He used to say what a thoroughly horrible man he was, a real bully, and with real feeling about it, not just lighthearted passing comments, and he shuddered at the photograph when he went into the school for events. I presume he must have been a new appointment when my Father was there, because he remembered Mr Firth as well, fondly. So maybe Mr Latimer mellowed in the latter part of his headship there.
Kate - re JL Latimer (James Leonard Latimer, MA): this may not be of much help, but I have a copy of the book A Course In Geometry that he wrote with one Thomas Smith B.Sc. The book was first published in 1937 by George G. Harrap and Co. Unfortunately there are no biographical details given, only that Mr Latimer was formerly a scholar of St. John's College, Oxford, and was Headmaster at Goole Grammar School.
He'd now be well over 100 if still around!
Answer to earlier queries - details from genealogy resources:
James Leonard Latimer born during last quarter of 1902, registered in Stockport district. Died aged 65 on 24 August 1968, of 15 Holbeck Road, Scarborough, Probate £7,853. (death reg. mistranscribed as James J. in some sources).
Looking again that might be £7,653 - it's not that clear in probate register.
Hi Robert - thank you for the information on Mr Latimer. Seems he didn't have a very long life, though even then in the '60s, that was not uncommon. I seem to remember reading somewhere that when the retirement age was set at 65, average life expectancy was such that the OAP would only be paid for about 18 months. Different now - too many of us coffin dodgers not clocking off in decent time.
I remember Mr Latimer more kindly, perhaps because my grand father, Richard Jolley was a governor of G.G.S. They both took
" Aim High" very seriously and encouraged each of us to do so.
My most significant memory is of the encouragement Miss K Holland gave me in Domestic Science and my one regret is that I have never thanked her or Miss Tyler for their influences on my 30 year teaching career, here in South Australia, as a Senior Mistress & Year Level Manager of all years between 8 & 12.(i.e.Twelve to seventeen year olds.)
Mr Jimmy Hirsch was the best maths teacher.
I would appreciate any current information anyone may have about these teachers. F. Elizabeth Wheldrake ( Nee Chevis)
I occasionally browse through Goole on the Web to see if I come across names of old. I too remember 'Len' but as a somewhat ethereal person, complete with black gown, who floated the few steps from his office each morning to greet the gathering of students in the school hall. I never really met him very often - that was a good thing, or so I always thought. However, each year on the afternoon of the Varsity rugby match the 1st XV rugby team was invited to sit in his front room across from school on Centenary Road. We saw the real person then.
Fond memories of GGS
Hi Mike - interesting to hear of your memories of JLL.
I was never good enough for the school rugby teams, but was a decent enough kicker (of the ball) in the house matches. You were in the year above me, and I can remember you on the field because you were much braver (or maybe more foolhardy) than I was when throwing yourself into tacking those muddied oafs. Hope there was no lasting damage!
I was more of a flanneled fool, myself.
Many thanks for your response. I enjoyed my rugby days and continued playing until the mid 70s. That's years not my age!
Incidentally, are you related the Kirkpatricks who lived around Eastrington in the mid to late 60s?
Hi Mike - I don't recall any KPs out Eastrington way, though on my mother's side there were relatives going back many years, called Plaster, in that area. I have an old family bible, about the size of a breeze-block, with some Plaster family details from their time in Bampton, Oxfordshire, in the early- and mid-eighteen hundreds.
Back to JLL, a few of us from GGS kept in touch for a few years after leaving, meeting up to go camping in the Lakes, or to Cosh House in the Dales. In those days we'd hitch-hike everywhere, and one day we saw JLL enjoying a snifter sitting outside either the White Swan, or the Traveller's Rest at Grasmere, on our way up to Derwentwater. This would have been in the early 60s, and sadly JLL didn't live more than another 2-3 years.
Many thanks. You have jogged my memory about JLL. I remember he once took three of us to Cosh House in his car and we stopped for tea and scones at a rather grand hotel!
The concept of Cosh House was way ahead of its time. I'm not sure whether the idea came from 'Sticky' Glew, Ellis Postel or Bill Petch. It may even have come from the man himself.
Mike - Yes, Cosh really was, er, an experience ... Whenever I went there it always seemed freezing, unless you could get the boiler going. A bit of a trudge up from Foxup with a rucksack, but the countryside was - still is - terrific, with great views from the hill up behind Cosh. The shack out front was a place for serene contemplation, looking out across the valley. Then, there were those invigorating cold showers from the stream that ran through the hole in the wall, along from the cludgie, or alternatively the prancing around in the beck down t' hill below. Oh yes, those happy days!
I don't know how long the school continued to lease Cosh, and I last went there in the sixties. More recently, the place has been completely redeveloped.
I went on a GGS trip to Chartres, France, in the early 1970's, where we attended a local school for a few days. Does anyone know, or know where I can find out, which school it was?
I was at GGS from 65 to 71. I remember Arnie and Mr Cauldwell? Who inspired my love of geography Bongo despite being amazingly knowledgeable about all things historic didn't inspire me as much so I failed History A level. Mr Heath and Miss Potter where encouraging in all things sporting and the fantastic summer camps in Kettlewell and Pateley bridge . The pupils I remember were David Ibbotson Gillian Hardy SUE Johnson (great goalie) Ricky Kay David Hinks fantastic runner Judith Petch Steven Theaker and lots of others I have forgotten the names of. Most memorable things were the hockey teams Zigger Zagger the assembly about a nuclear attack the sudden death of Angus the art teacher .
Been following this email trail over the last few months with total fascination,but only just managed to get down to contributing because I'm a real technophobe!
I was at Goole Grammar from 65to72 and am very familiar with many of the names people have been discussing. I read with interest Alasdair Brown's contributions from 2011-I was in your 1971 Japanese noh play production 'Kagekiyo', which my late mother absolutely loved. I often think of you and your wonderful English teaching colleague,Stella Harris,(previously Ilditch). You left Goole for Workington;do you still support Tottenham? I remember you once saying that you used to go and watch them.
I have lost touch with the people who were in my form,which causes regret;Rob Palmerone,who went on to be a clinical psychologist on Humberside;Howard Burton,whose brother Keith,as several of you who have pointed out,died tragically in a road traffic accident in the autumn half term holiday in 1965,just after being accepted to do maths,I think,at Oxford. Ruth Jackson,our illustrious Head Girl,went on to study at the Royal Academy of Music and Jane Clayton,as was,went up to university to study French,I think. Other folk who readily come to mind are Sue Whitaker,Sue Clayton,Amanda Johnson,Rob Beevers,John Torn,Mike 'Yakky' Wood,Stephen Tose,Dave Brogan,Joyce Garner and many more.Don't know if anybody will remember me;I can't claim to have been any kind of academic leading light,but can claim,like the great Paul Eddington,that I did little harm!
I went up to Hull Uni.,where I took a Politics degree and met my wife Sandra. I started a Masters degree,but,realizing that Maggie Thatch,as a past Education Secretary,had no interest in education,particularly useless education that might try to ask questions of the establishment,'re-trained as a psychiatric nurse,a career which took me all over the country,including 21 years in the Shetland Islands,although Sandra and I and our adopted 14 year old,Corey,are now living in Cheshire. Sorry to bore you all,but it would be good to hear from any of you who might dimly remember me;I certainly remember John Wraith,who must have left G.G.S.in 1966. Still in Manila? Best Wishes,everyone,
Hi Steve - I was at GGS a few years before your time there, and therefore didn't know any of the contemporaries that you mention, but I still found your post most interesting. Some of the staff would have been the same, of course, including Mr Turner. Gus was a bit scary for a callow 11-year old, but he was always one of my favourites there, and rather inspiring to me. As were Mr Branson and Mr Ferriman.
I didn't know what became of Gus after I left, but it seems he didn't have a long life.
Once again, thank you for your post. Hope there will soon be others with that kind of detail that bring out the old memories!
Mention of ol' Gus reminds me of another teacher there around that time. Miss Coughlin took us for what was known as English Language back then. (English Lit was a separate subject.) In one stirring piece wot I wrote, I used the term 'by sheer weight of numbers' for which Miss C docked me a mark or two. She referred to the word sheer as being slang, and therefore not acceptable for use in schoolwork. I'm sure I'd seen that term in either The Dandy or The Beano, so I remember being a bit miffed at her cavalier use of the red pen.
Does anyone know what happened to Miss Coughlin? I do hope that she had a long and happy retirement after putting up with so many phillistines for so long.
Peter's question about Miss Coghlin stirred my curiosity too, so I looked her up using my genealogy subs. She lived to the age of 102. Mercy Marion Coghlin, born in the Lanchester (Durham) district, 16th May 1904, death registered in the York district, 28th June 2006. In the 1911 census she is with her grandparents at Stanley, Co. Durham.
Robert - thank you so much for your information on Miss Coghlin. ('Further marks deducted, Kirkpatrick, for spelling my name wrongly,' she might have said.) It's great to know that the formidable Miss C lived to age 102. Good for her! It may be then, after all, the wherewithal she had to knock into shape decades of recalcitrants sent her way at GGS was what kept her going!
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